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Does anybody here agree with government that wearing them should be a law? I rarely wear mine just because I got out of the habbit making short drives around on campus. It would be smart of me to start, but I just forget a lot. But why should I be forced to?


disclaimer: yeah yeah, medic we know, [the more you know] you see less live people who weren't wearing them [/the more you know]

Regardless of whether or not states are within their constitutional boundaries by passing these laws, you should be buckling up. Period. I know its a hassle. I grew up when nobody belted themselves and it didn't become habit for me as a driver for a long time. But as you mentioned with medic, early in my career I spent too much time covering fatalities from people who found it too inconvenient to protect their own lives to not make it a point for me and everyone in my family to be buckled up at all times.

And don;t even get me started about children in the back of pickups on the freeway.

yes, i think you should wear you seatbelt, I always wear mine except around campus.
no, i don't think the government should make you.

The libertarian in me says that, "No, people should be free to die a horrible death due to their own idiocy".
However, the common sensitarian in me says that, "Of course, it should be the law; after all, we also don't hand loaded guns to toddlers".

Seriously, why wouldn't you WANT to wear a seatbelt? Does it mess with you that much to have it on? Does it take too much time? C'mon.

Some people think they harm as much as they help. My dad has been on calls before where a seatbelt decapitated a person, calls where had they not worn their seatbelt they would've been thrown and likely survived, along with calls where the seatbelt saved them.

If you don't want to wear one, I don't feel that you should be forced to.

I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to wear one, personally, but it's not my place to tell them that they have to.

Being a survivor of a horrific car accident a little over a year ago, I would say that wearing a seat belt saved my life. Being ejected from a car is not a good thing SJ. You don't know where you are going to land and your body is going the rate of speed that your car was traveling (Newton's laws of Thermodynamics). I think it is absolutely silly not to wear a seat belt. I don't think it is even a nuisance to wear it really. It may take 2 full seconds to snap it on. As far as the law is concerned the government has a responsibility in terms of public saftey especially if they have studies and other information to tell us what is safe and what isn't. I have no problem with making a seatbelt manditory and making it the law. If you are in an accident where you get decapitated by a seat belt, you probably were in a high speed accident that has little to no chance of survival anyway. Plus if you where the belts that go around your waiste and shoulder that shouldn't happen. It is the kind that only go over the shoulder and the person doesn't connect the waist part like in cars that automatically belt you, that cause the strangulation/decapitation type injury. Medic? Tell them man.

I feel the same as you.

SCAR wrote:Being ejected from a car is not a good thing SJ. You don't know where you are going to land and your body is going the rate of speed that your car was traveling (Newton's laws of Thermodynamics).

There are situations that if you get thrown from the car you don't get killed. Yes, you get injured, but you don't die. Sometimes being thrown kills you, but there are times when getting thrown can save your life.

SuperJon wrote:

SCAR wrote:Being ejected from a car is not a good thing SJ. You don't know where you are going to land and your body is going the rate of speed that your car was traveling (Newton's laws of Thermodynamics).

There are situations that if you get thrown from the car you don't get killed. Yes, you get injured, but you don't die. Sometimes being thrown kills you, but there are times when getting thrown can save your life.

For instance, if you crash into a pillow factory.

That one was good.

LUconn wrote:I got out of the habbit [of wearing a seatbelt] making short drives around on campus.

Funny. I'd think driving on Liberty's campus would have the opposite effect.

SCAR wrote:As far as the law is concerned the government has a responsibility in terms of public saftey especially if they have studies and other information to tell us what is safe and what isn't. I have no problem with making a seatbelt manditory and making it the law.

Get out of here. The government has no such responsibility. It shouldnt be any of their business how reckless I am, as long as I'm not endangering others. The only argument I could see, it that the government has to pay for those who are seriously injured and are uninsured, therefore to lessen the cost of that, seatbelts would be manditory. That makes sense, but I doubt the situation is enough of a factor to make it required of everyone.

i think its fairly stupid that this is campaigned so heavily in illinois....how bout some preventative campaigns? turn off your cellphone, stop eating, pick one station, stop being old....that should be a campaign....

my office overlooks a pretty busy intersection in which they are always doing seatbelt checks....i chuckle everytime a guy on a motorcycle drives by without a helmet on....which is legal here....stupid...

as for the "getting thrown from the car can save your life" this has actually been completely debunked....there are very rare occasions that this "works"... in 99.999999% of accidents wearing a seatbelt is advantageous over not wearing...

I never said it was a majority of the time. I said it's happened before where somebody I trust more than anyone saw it. Say it's been debunked or whatever, but I'm going to trust someone who's seen it rather than someone who's seen studies. I understand why people don't want to wear them. I always wear mine (in the front seat, rarely do in the back), but I think it should be up to the person in the car.

LUconn wrote:

SCAR wrote:As far as the law is concerned the government has a responsibility in terms of public saftey especially if they have studies and other information to tell us what is safe and what isn't. I have no problem with making a seatbelt manditory and making it the law.

Get out of here. The government has no such responsibility. It shouldnt be any of their business how reckless I am, as long as I'm not endangering others. The only argument I could see, it that the government has to pay for those who are seriously injured and are uninsured, therefore to lessen the cost of that, seatbelts would be manditory. That makes sense, but I doubt the situation is enough of a factor to make it required of everyone.

i think that is what it really is....the gvt's way of trying to lower the overall cost of medical care pertaining to accidents....i forget what the # was but i saw an estimated total of hospital bills from Driving and it was astronomical..

My theory is, who cares weather it is required or not, it's just smart. I've seen and heard about countless lives saved because of wearing seat belts. Besides it's so easy and with the new designs, you barely know it's there. Just wear it and get over it.

SuperJon wrote:I never said it was a majority of the time. I said it's happened before where somebody I trust more than anyone saw it. Say it's been debunked or whatever, but I'm going to trust someone who's seen it rather than someone who's seen studies. I understand why people don't want to wear them. I always wear mine (in the front seat, rarely do in the back), but I think it should be up to the person in the car.

no i agree, it happens....like once in a while....i'm just saying that anyone who uses that as a reason to not wear one is a retard

lucon you need to wear a seatbelt because you are so tiny and fragile

Never seen him, but does he still need a booster?

no hes probably 5'10-6'

Hey, I'm 6'1"! My DL says 6'2" just to make me feel good though. You can write anything you want on there.

LUconn wrote:Hey, I'm 6'1"! My DL says 6'2" just to make me feel good though. You can write anything you want on there.

True, I am 6-4 210! The lady gave me a funny look but I said I am big boned No really though Luconn, public saftey and health IS the responsibility of the government. That is one of the things our tax dollars is used for. It is no different than diseases. Don't you want the government to monitor and patrol food, and cleanliness especially in public restaurants? How about the FDA standards for meat? Do you know why the life expectancy of Americans is up from 40-50 years to 74-78 years for men in America? Because of government regulations about food saftey and traffic saftey. Also government and private industry getting together to erradicate contagious diseases as well as leathal diseases whether contagious or not. You don't think Public saftey is the responsibility of the government? Do you want them to let the Turburculous guy go to the next parent teacher meeting with your kids? How about sit next to you on the bus or plane? "I want them on that wall, I need them on that wall". The same principle applies to traffic safety. It is a money issue true as Mallet said but in the 90's traffic deaths were about 9 or 10 on the list of ways to die. In the 60's it was a pretty common way to die because the auto industry didn't have good saftey regulations like Anti-lock brakes and performance tires, air bags and seatbelt designs were crappy. Do you want anti-lock brakes and state inspections to be optional too (I inspections are not required in some states)? I don't want multiple people driving big SUV's on bald tires or crappy brakes around me. But again, why do they have to make it a law when it is such common sense to wear them is the debate I guess.