Re: Election 2022 and 2024
Posted: July 5th, 2022, 4:39 pm
He and Trump won’t be on the same ticket. Legally I’m not sure they are allowed to anyways. Trump would pick Pompeo, Grinnell or Scott.
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Purple Haize wrote: ↑July 5th, 2022, 4:39 pm He and Trump won’t be on the same ticket. Legally I’m not sure they are allowed to anyways. Trump would pick Pompeo, Grinnell or Scott.Three good ones. You know who I prefer.
olldflame wrote: ↑July 5th, 2022, 3:46 pmHe probably would do more as Gov. of FL. However, it would be a great stepping stone for him to run for the presidency in 2028. If I could pick anyone in the country for 2024, it would be him as well.flameshaw wrote: ↑July 5th, 2022, 10:59 am I would prefer Desantis over Trump. A Trump/Desantis ticket would be attractive though. Personally, I believe that The Trumpster would be more valuable as being the Kingmaker for GOP and being Desantis biggest cheerleader.I am not at all sure Desantis would accept an offer to run for VP. I believe he has stated that he thinks he can accomplish more as Gov. Of FL, and I tend to agree.
Love Trump's policies. We would have very minimal inflation, no war in the Ukraine and less than $3 gas, if he was still in office. However, I could live without his personality.
thepostman wrote: ↑August 8th, 2022, 9:23 pm Or they want him to run because he is so damaged at this point that even Joe Biden was able to beat him.I know you like to sit on the sidelines and laugh and not get involved but weaponizing Government agencies to go after your Political Opponents is no laughing matter.
Honestly though it takes a lot to issue a no notice search warrant on a former president. Who is to say they don't have something on him? I don't really know but even if there was something legit illegal found Republicans would never believe it. Democrats would have a party. The rest of us will be on the outside looking in rolling our eyes at how pathetic both parties have become.
Purple Haize wrote: ↑August 8th, 2022, 8:37 pm The Democrats just assured a Trump run in 24 with their raid in Mar A Lago today. It’s ironic that the Liberals and Never Trumpers were screaming that Trump wanted to weaponize the DOJ etc to go after his enemies. Yet here we are with 87k more IRS Agents and a DOJ specifically targeting the political opponents of the Party in power.What ever they're falsely accusing you of is what THEY are doing or planning to do. Nothing new
stokesjokes wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 7:55 am I know this may be shocking to you guys, but may, just maybe, Mar-A-Lago is getting searched because of serious wrong-doing.Is it career suicide? In reality it’s been the exact opposite. Look at where all of these folks who have pushed disproven stories have ended up. It’s far from career suicide. Carrying out the behest of your superiors is always career enhancing.
Imagine the amount of evidence it would take for the DOJ, FBI, and a federal judge to approve a warrant for a search of a former president’s residence. It’s career suicide for everyone involved if this isn’t air tight. For this to go through, I think they must a) already have substantial evidence and b) are confident they will find what they are looking for.
TH Spangler wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 9:22 am It will be interesting to see which magistrate signed off on it? And see what his/her prior jobs were before becoming a magistrate.I have a sneaking suspicion you already know. I do too and….wow….just….wow.
Purple Haize wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 8:49 am Look at where all of these folks who have pushed disproven stories have ended up.Examples?
stokesjokes wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 9:55 amFor one, the head of the Detroit office who was overseeing the Gretchen Whitmer abduction hoax instigated by the FBI was "transferred" to the Washington DC office and now heads up this Mar a Lago (FL)home invasion from the DC office??. The Magistrate who signed off on this "warrant" a long time democrat who who once represented Jeffrey Epstein. McCabe, Strozk, Lisa Page, Jim Comey, all fired for abuse of their powers especially falsifying FISA applications 3 times to go after Carter Page and the Trump stole the election because he colluded with Putin hoax. How about Sandy Berger who shoved documents from the National Archives in his socks and pants to hide Clinton derogatory info, or Comey who took FBI documents to his house then gave to The NY Times, and lastly, the way Hillary was treated when she had a private server with confidential and top secret info on and then "erased 30,000 documents/emails. FBI never issues a subpoena/warrant. What they did was "talked to her" over the 4th of July weekend while Willy met with Atty Gen Loretta Lynch secretly on the tarmac in Phoenix the day before interviewing Hillary, and Comey, not a prosecutor or Atty Gen exonerated her. Not his job. Hunter Biden . . . . . All these folks are revered by the press and have gigs on CNN/MSNBC and the like. Two tiered system of justice for all to see. Just a few "examples". None of these folks ever had the FBI break into their houses with guns ablazing in a predawn raid like @ 10 Trump folks and Trump himself experienced. Sounds like Putinesque banana republic justice. Just scratching the surface!Purple Haize wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 8:49 am Look at where all of these folks who have pushed disproven stories have ended up.Examples?
Chippy wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 11:11 amThere’s a lot to unpack here, but calling something a hoax doesn’t make it one. Suffice it to say, my understanding of most of the examples you gave is wildly different than yours.stokesjokes wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 9:55 amFor one, the head of the Detroit office who was overseeing the Gretchen Whitmer abduction hoax instigated by the FBI was "transferred" to the Washington DC office and now heads up this Mar a Lago (FL)home invasion from the DC office??. The Magistrate who signed off on this "warrant" a long time democrat who who once represented Jeffrey Epstein. McCabe, Strozk, Lisa Page, Jim Comey, all fired for abuse of their powers especially falsifying FISA applications 3 times to go after Carter Page and the Trump stole the election because he colluded with Putin hoax. How about Sandy Berger who shoved documents from the National Archives in his socks and pants to hide Clinton derogatory info, or Comey who took FBI documents to his house then gave to The NY Times, and lastly, the way Hillary was treated when she had a private server with confidential and top secret info on and then "erased 30,000 documents/emails. FBI never issues a subpoena/warrant. What they did was "talked to her" over the 4th of July weekend while Willy met with Atty Gen Loretta Lynch secretly on the tarmac in Phoenix the day before interviewing Hillary, and Comey, not a prosecutor or Atty Gen exonerated her. Not his job. Hunter Biden . . . . . All these folks are revered by the press and have gigs on CNN/MSNBC and the like. Two tiered system of justice for all to see. Just a few "examples". None of these folks ever had the FBI break into their houses with guns ablazing in a predawn raid like @ 10 Trump folks and Trump himself experienced. Sounds like Putinesque banana republic justice. Just scratching the surface!Purple Haize wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 8:49 am Look at where all of these folks who have pushed disproven stories have ended up.Examples?
stokesjokes wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 11:31 am If we’re just speculating, it seems pretty obvious that he didn’t give something back that he was supposed to when he took those 15 boxes of classified material.If you're serious you're 1/10 as bright as you think you are.
Now, you could say it’s because he’s holding something incriminating on the other side- but why would he just be sitting on it? He’s been making wild claims without evidence for years, it seems like if he finally had evidence of something he’d have released it.
I could say he took docs that incriminate him, but again, why would he still have them? Surely he would have ripped them up and thrown them in the toilet by now.
So if the reports are true and this is about classified docs, he’s keeping them for a reason. If it’s incriminating against others, probably for blackmail/extortion. The only reason he’d keep incriminating evidence against himself is if it’s also incriminating against others- mutually assured destruction.
One other option- if Trump is anything, he’s a businessman. He could also have kept documents because they he thought he could make money from them. I’m sure there are plenty of foreign governments ready to make sizeable real estate investments in return for the right classified docs.
stokesjokes wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 11:41 amI'm not giving you my "understanding" I am presenting factual information that is readily available to anyone who wants to do research and not rely on CNN/MSNBC for their understanding.Chippy wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 11:11 amThere’s a lot to unpack here, but calling something a hoax doesn’t make it one. Suffice it to say, my understanding of most of the examples you gave is wildly different than yours.stokesjokes wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 9:55 amFor one, the head of the Detroit office who was overseeing the Gretchen Whitmer abduction hoax instigated by the FBI was "transferred" to the Washington DC office and now heads up this Mar a Lago (FL)home invasion from the DC office??. The Magistrate who signed off on this "warrant" a long time democrat who who once represented Jeffrey Epstein. McCabe, Strozk, Lisa Page, Jim Comey, all fired for abuse of their powers especially falsifying FISA applications 3 times to go after Carter Page and the Trump stole the election because he colluded with Putin hoax. How about Sandy Berger who shoved documents from the National Archives in his socks and pants to hide Clinton derogatory info, or Comey who took FBI documents to his house then gave to The NY Times, and lastly, the way Hillary was treated when she had a private server with confidential and top secret info on and then "erased 30,000 documents/emails. FBI never issues a subpoena/warrant. What they did was "talked to her" over the 4th of July weekend while Willy met with Atty Gen Loretta Lynch secretly on the tarmac in Phoenix the day before interviewing Hillary, and Comey, not a prosecutor or Atty Gen exonerated her. Not his job. Hunter Biden . . . . . All these folks are revered by the press and have gigs on CNN/MSNBC and the like. Two tiered system of justice for all to see. Just a few "examples". None of these folks ever had the FBI break into their houses with guns ablazing in a predawn raid like @ 10 Trump folks and Trump himself experienced. Sounds like Putinesque banana republic justice. Just scratching the surface!
Examples?
TH Spangler wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 12:47 pm If you're serious you're 1/10 as bright as you think you are.I was speculating about possibilities. If it's about docs, there's two criteria here: he has to have had reason to keep the docs, and they've got to be sensitive enough for the feds to want them back. Either they implicate someone in a crime, a crime is going to be committed with them, or they are too sensitive to be sitting in some dude's house. If it's the 3rd, Trump's real dumb for not just giving them back.