A Sea Of Red

Trump/Scott 2024 for me at this point. DeSantis has to much establishment money behind him. Vivek Ramaswamy is very interesting as well.

I could go either way between desantis and Scott. If I had to vote today I would go with Scott, desantis then trump. In other news ranked choice voting is nice, more states need to make the switch.

Ill flame wrote: ↑May 25th, 2023, 8:59 am I could go either way between desantis and Scott. If I had to vote today I would go with Scott, desantis then trump. In other news ranked choice voting is nice, more states need to make the switch.

Ranked choice voting guarantees no one will like the person elected

Polling does not back up that opinion at all. Polls show that those who have used RCV prefer it over the old system, turnout is higher and they feel like their vote mattered more. This includes a poll of Virginia Republicans that used RCV in the congressional primaries. The people that don't like it either have never used it or support establishment politicians that lost because they are deeply unpopular outside of their base like Sarah Palin.

https://fairvote.org/resources/data-on-rcv/

2024 POTUS Trump, VP Scott. Then 2028 POTUS Scott, VP Ramaswamy.

Ill flame wrote: ↑May 25th, 2023, 12:52 pm Polling does not back up that opinion at all. Polls show that those who have used RCV prefer it over the old system, turnout is higher and they feel like their vote mattered more. This includes a poll of Virginia Republicans that used RCV in the congressional primaries. The people that don't like it either have never used it or support establishment politicians that lost because they are deeply unpopular outside of their base like Sarah Palin.

https://fairvote.org/resources/data-on-rcv/

Yeah. That’s me. Mr Establishment Candidate supporter.

I'm glad the DC swamp will be represented in 24. Chris Christie will give them a voice. Should help Trump/Scott.

Former VP Mike Pence announced today that he is running for President.

Love me some Mike Pence! Don’t think he can win, but he’s my #1!!

Just a guess, the deep state sacrifices Joe Biden next. To justify blocking Trump's reelection with the Justice Department.

TH Spangler wrote: ↑June 9th, 2023, 4:17 pm Just a guess, the deep state sacrifices Joe Biden next. To justify blocking Trump's reelection with the Justice Department.

Why? They have free reign with Biden in office

Purple Haize wrote: ↑June 9th, 2023, 8:09 pm

TH Spangler wrote: ↑June 9th, 2023, 4:17 pm Just a guess, the deep state sacrifices Joe Biden next. To justify blocking Trump's reelection with the Justice Department.

Why? They have free reign with Biden in office

The BIG GUY. "Where's the money".

Comer must feel like he's playing the Sparky Shuffle. Guess which LLC the corrupt, Biben family payment is under.

Obama must be feeling intimidated by Tim Scott's rise. Senator Scott's the REAL deal.

If the left ignored Trump, would he finally go away?

Do they continue to prop him up because they’re scared of him?

They continue to prop him up for 4 reasons:
1) He gives their allies in the media ratings
2) They fund raise off of him
3) You can always count on Trump to serve as a distraction for what's happening in the world
4) Now they believe they can beat him in the General, given his terrible polling with Independents

Humble_Opinion wrote: ↑June 16th, 2023, 12:52 pm They continue to prop him up for 4 reasons:
1) He gives their allies in the media ratings
2) They fund raise off of him
3) You can always count on Trump to serve as a distraction for what's happening in the world
4) Now they believe they can beat him in the General, given his terrible polling with Independents

Same as 2016.

Vivek Ramaswamy and Tim Scott would be interesting. Vivek is a young, smart, outsider with the right message. Tim Scott is fresh air. What do you guys think?

Humble_Opinion wrote: ↑June 16th, 2023, 12:52 pm They continue to prop him up for 4 reasons:
1) He gives their allies in the media ratings
2) They fund raise off of him
3) You can always count on Trump to serve as a distraction for what's happening in the world
4) Now they believe they can beat him in the General, given his terrible polling with Independents

1) It does, but I think that is starting to get played out. Folks are just getting tired of Trump all together.
2) Yes...but again. Getting played out
3) He is just a distraction at this point, but I think many Americans are simply "tuning out" from the MSM in general because it's mostly opinion and conjecture. Again....it's just plain tiring.
4) I don't think he can. His antics played well for him in 2016, but he has turned even more of the right off with this current campaign. I don't think going after Desantis and other previously supportive conservatives was a good move. They don't seem to be "taking the bait".

IMHO...if it comes down to old man Biden and old man Trump.....I don't think there will be a huge motivation on the electorate's part.

rtb72 wrote: ↑June 21st, 2023, 11:11 pm

Humble_Opinion wrote: ↑June 16th, 2023, 12:52 pm They continue to prop him up for 4 reasons:
1) He gives their allies in the media ratings
2) They fund raise off of him
3) You can always count on Trump to serve as a distraction for what's happening in the world
4) Now they believe they can beat him in the General, given his terrible polling with Independents

1) It does, but I think that is starting to get played out. Folks are just getting tired of Trump all together.
2) Yes...but again. Getting played out
3) He is just a distraction at this point, but I think many Americans are simply "tuning out" from the MSM in general because it's mostly opinion and conjecture. Again....it's just plain tiring.
4) I don't think he can. His antics played well for him in 2016, but he has turned even more of the right off with this current campaign. I don't think going after Desantis and other previously supportive conservatives was a good move. They don't seem to be "taking the bait".

IMHO...if it comes down to old man Biden and old man Trump.....I don't think there will be a huge motivation on the electorate's part.

I'll vote for anyone that will dismantle the unelected bureaucracy in Washington that picks our candidates (both parties). Then controls them while in office.

At this point it should be clear to everyone what's going on. How politicians/family/friends get rich and why all our critical manufacturing is in China. Why only 30% of our tax dollars sent to the Ukrainian military gets there.

Looks like DeSanctimonious (thank you former President Trump for that) is in a tailspin in the polls. Also, Will Hurd has announced, and his priority appears to be northern border security??? I'll pass on him.

desantis fall is surprising. I don't know what is going on with the republican party. I feel like its about to be another 2022 and somehow biden is going to get a 2nd term.

DeSantis has been far and away one of the most effective Republican governors. He was in the freedom fight against COVID lockdowns early on after following the COVID "guidelines" released by the CDC initially. He showed a willingness to pivot and pushback. Trump was MIA during this, mostly because he instituted them and still supports them to this day. I'm sorry, but wrong call. I can't and won't support Trump in the primary. I think the media malpractice and actions of the security and intelligence apparatus against him during his presidency were absolutely criminal. However, his inability to put the right people in the key positions needed to reform government effectively is a character flaw. The guy attracts smarmy people.

Also - I saw Vivek mentioned above. Huge red flags surrounding that guy. He's connected to Soros... at this point, I almost think the powers that be that have the money already have the strings pulled where they need them to be so every candidate is flawed, but Vivek having little to no political experience or votes makes me question him much more than I would a DeSantis whom has an actual record that I mostly agree with, aside from a few things.

https://newrepublic.com/post/172402/viv ... pedia-page

RubberMallet wrote: ↑July 11th, 2023, 10:21 am desantis fall is surprising. I don't know what is going on with the republican party. I feel like its about to be another 2022 and somehow biden is going to get a 2nd term.

I’m not putting a lot of stock in his declining numbers right now. I’ll take notice after Labor Day. Right now Trump is making his big splashy appearances. He’s charismatic and lots of energy. If he’s the nominee for the Republican Party I’ll vote for him. But I’m not counting DeSantis out just yet

Humble_Opinion wrote: ↑July 11th, 2023, 11:11 am DeSantis has been far and away one of the most effective Republican governors. He was in the freedom fight against COVID lockdowns early on after following the COVID "guidelines" released by the CDC initially. He showed a willingness to pivot and pushback. Trump was MIA during this, mostly because he instituted them and still supports them to this day. I'm sorry, but wrong call. I can't and won't support Trump in the primary. I think the media malpractice and actions of the security and intelligence apparatus against him during his presidency were absolutely criminal. However, his inability to put the right people in the key positions needed to reform government effectively is a character flaw. The guy attracts smarmy people.

Also - I saw Vivek mentioned above. Huge red flags surrounding that guy. He's connected to Soros... at this point, I almost think the powers that be that have the money already have the strings pulled where they need them to be so every candidate is flawed, but Vivek having little to no political experience or votes makes me question him much more than I would a DeSantis whom has an actual record that I mostly agree with, aside from a few things.

https://newrepublic.com/post/172402/viv ... pedia-page

Thanks for pointing out that connection. No record ... was concerning me. The devil you know is better than the one you don't know.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... ction.html

Purple Haize wrote:

RubberMallet wrote: ↑July 11th, 2023, 10:21 am desantis fall is surprising. I don't know what is going on with the republican party. I feel like its about to be another 2022 and somehow biden is going to get a 2nd term.

I’m not putting a lot of stock in his declining numbers right now. I’ll take notice after Labor Day. Right now Trump is making his big splashy appearances. He’s charismatic and lots of energy. If he’s the nominee for the Republican Party I’ll vote for him. But I’m not counting DeSantis out just yet

yeah of course. its way early. I just thought he woudl still be way more popular. i'm ok with the slow play and ultimately he's my numero uno at this point.