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By Humble_Opinion
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The reported Final 4 list of candidates for VP has been disputed by Trump's campaign, and vehemently so. If I had my choice, I'd take Tulsi Gabbard over any of the four that were on that list. She's smart and well-spoken, a libertarian, a former democrat, knows government's size needs to be reduced and she single-handedly ended Kamala Harris' campaign for President a few years ago.

Also, why is everyone anti-Bob Good? I don't much like him personally, but he's America First, tried to keep McCarthy beholden to his deal he made to become House Speaker and he had the nerve to buck the system and endorse DeSantis.
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By TH Spangler
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Humble_Opinion wrote: May 3rd, 2024, 11:35 am The reported Final 4 list of candidates for VP has been disputed by Trump's campaign, and vehemently so. If I had my choice, I'd take Tulsi Gabbard over any of the four that were on that list. She's smart and well-spoken, a libertarian, a former democrat, knows government's size needs to be reduced and she single-handedly ended Kamala Harris' campaign for President a few years ago.

Also, why is everyone anti-Bob Good? I don't much like him personally, but he's America First, tried to keep McCarthy beholden to his deal he made to become House Speaker and he had the nerve to buck the system and endorse DeSantis.
I like Tulsi Gabbard a lot, but in my opinion Scott is a better choice. He's been on the conservative team since day 1. He would stand strong against the democrats identity politics. You know thats coming :roll: .

I don't live in the VA 5th so have no vote. But because Good is a Liberty guy I read up on it. I don't see much difference in Good and McGuire. Both are very conservative on all issues.
By olldflame
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So, who are the other 3 on this "list"? Tim Scott is too wishy-washy for my taste, and his "enthusiasm" does not come across as genuine. Senate? Sure. VP? I pass.
By Humble_Opinion
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The last time Trump was in office, he shut down the country for COVID and turned everything over to "the science" (Fauci et al). It all turned out to be quite the farce, but he still thinks he did a great job supporting policies that kept healthy people and kids locked up in their homes for months. He also grew the national debt like crazy. If he's going to be in there, I want someone with a more libertarian mindset that will help the cause of freedom and limited government. The latter expanded quite a bit under Trump's watch and the seeds of the inflation we're now paying for were sown in the deficit spending that occurred during his first term.
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By TH Spangler
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Humble_Opinion wrote: May 3rd, 2024, 1:02 pm The last time Trump was in office, he shut down the country for COVID and turned everything over to "the science" (Fauci et al). It all turned out to be quite the farce, but he still thinks he did a great job supporting policies that kept healthy people and kids locked up in their homes for months. He also grew the national debt like crazy. If he's going to be in there, I want someone with a more libertarian mindset that will help the cause of freedom and limited government. The latter expanded quite a bit under Trump's watch and the seeds of the inflation we're now paying for were sown in the deficit spending that occurred during his first term.
He left the lock downs up to each state. And warned them throughtout to not let the cure ... destroy our economy and be worse than the virus. And the democrats trashed him for it. We're all wiser post covid. The best thing he did pre covid, was to required two government regulations removed for every new one added. And made us energy independent. The world was a more orderly place that way.

Short list being reported, JD Vance, R-Ohio, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C.
By Chippy
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TH Spangler wrote: May 3rd, 2024, 1:29 pm
Humble_Opinion wrote: May 3rd, 2024, 1:02 pm The last time Trump was in office, he shut down the country for COVID and turned everything over to "the science" (Fauci et al). It all turned out to be quite the farce, but he still thinks he did a great job supporting policies that kept healthy people and kids locked up in their homes for months. He also grew the national debt like crazy. If he's going to be in there, I want someone with a more libertarian mindset that will help the cause of freedom and limited government. The latter expanded quite a bit under Trump's watch and the seeds of the inflation we're now paying for were sown in the deficit spending that occurred during his first term.
He left the lock downs up to each state. And warned them throughtout to not let the cure ... destroy our economy and be worse than the virus. And the democrats trashed him for it. We're all wiser post covid. The best thing he did pre covid, was to required two government regulations removed for every new one added. And made us energy independent. The world was a more orderly place that way.

Short list being reported, JD Vance, R-Ohio, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C.
Per Bloomberg.
By ATrain
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Unless Trump is suddenly a NY resident again, I think we can rule out Floridians like Marco Rubio and Byron Donalds. See, Constitution of the United State of America, Amendment 12
By JK37
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ATrain wrote: May 3rd, 2024, 5:44 pm Unless Trump is suddenly a NY resident again, I think we can rule out Floridians like Marco Rubio and Byron Donalds. See, Constitution of the United State of America, Amendment 12
Correct. But if he really wanted Rubio, it wouldn’t be all that hard for him to change his residency. That’s an antiquated rule from a time gone by.
By ATrain
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JK37 wrote: May 3rd, 2024, 8:00 pm
ATrain wrote: May 3rd, 2024, 5:44 pm Unless Trump is suddenly a NY resident again, I think we can rule out Floridians like Marco Rubio and Byron Donalds. See, Constitution of the United State of America, Amendment 12
Correct. But if he really wanted Rubio, it wouldn’t be all that hard for him to change his residency. That’s an antiquated rule from a time gone by.
Might be antiquated, but its still in the Constitution. Although I doubt Trump is going to pick "Little Marco," as he brings nothing to the table. JD Vance would be interesting, Tulsi Gabbard and I may vote for Trump. However, someone from Wisconsin or Michigan may be a better bet.
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By Humble_Opinion
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TH Spangler wrote: He left the lock downs up to each state. And warned them throughtout to not let the cure ... destroy our economy and be worse than the virus. And the democrats trashed him for it. We're all wiser post covid. The best thing he did pre covid, was to required two government regulations removed for every new one added. And made us energy independent. The world was a more orderly place that way.

Short list being reported, JD Vance, R-Ohio, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C.
He left the lockdowns up to each state because he knew he didn't have the authority to shutdown the country without declaring martial law. He paid lip service to not letting the virus destroy the economy, but acted and regularly said things that were the opposite. When FL and GA started the process to re-open their states, realizing how duped we had been Trump was in lockstep with Fauci in his criticism - and he did it in typical Trump fashion... harshly. When COVID shot mandates were getting thrown up all across the board he was nowhere to be seen. Why? Because he's beholden to the COVID industry. That together with rampant government spending (even pre-COVID), plus no real progress made on the border wall were the separating positions between him and DeSantis for me. I'll likely vote Trump again, but in all honesty I have no idea what's going to occur in the leadup to the election. If you're following it somewhat closely and have seen the latest clips from Biden, it's clear his physical condition has deteriorated and he is no longer fit to serve, much less run for president. We're 6.5 months away from the election... what's the Democrats plan? None of the party elite are frantic or panicky, which seems odd to me and makes me think there's something in store between now and election day. We'll see.

Trump just came out himself and poo-poo'd the VP shortlist btw.
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By TH Spangler
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No other demcrates with name recognition are tossing their hat in the ring because there are to many whistle blowers popping up. They might be afraid of something. Its hard to believe they'll run someone they don't even like.
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By TH Spangler
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Can we cancel the debate between president MAGA and president Jacked Up Joe and replace it with a pay for view cage match. Between Butch Body Green and the Drama Queen AOC. Money from the event can be used to prop up social security, medicare through 2044. :lol:
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By TH Spangler
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Im afraid the deep state will have us in a outright war with Russia before Biden goes away. He has okayed strikes inside Russia using US weapons.
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By TH Spangler
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thepostman wrote: May 30th, 2024, 5:29 pm Disregarding the absurdity of your comment. The Republicans could've rescued us from Biden but instead made Trump their guy again.
Are you disputing he secretly okay Ukraine to use US supplied weapons to strike inside Russia. Do some research and check back.
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By thepostman
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Your deep state foolishness is the absurd part. I'd prefer not to comment on anything else. I'll say this much, you're essentially parroting Kremlin talking points. So good job.
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By TH Spangler
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There's a couple a views on US policy in Ukraine going back 15 years. Im ready for some turnover at the state dept, much like Obama's military leadership turn over while he was in power. Would like to see that reversed as well. You and I agree on nothing. Not new. :lol:
By ATrain
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If you don't support Ukraine, you haven't studied history. Expanionist dictators won't stop expanding. If Ukraine falls today, it'll be Moldova tomorrow, and then Russian/Belarussian troops will be marching into Poland, the Baltics, etc... the day after that.
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By JK37
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ATrain wrote: May 31st, 2024, 7:28 am If you don't support Ukraine, you haven't studied history. Expanionist dictators won't stop expanding. If Ukraine falls today, it'll be Moldova tomorrow, and then Russian/Belarussian troops will be marching into Poland, the Baltics, etc... the day after that.
I don’t believe it’s that cut and dry, but I see your historical point.

Do you believe Ukraine should be admitted to NATO?
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By jmclaughlin
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Supporting Ukraine against Russia all the while being skeptical of Ukraine is a healthy balance. The one reminder we need to have is that we are supporting Ukraine by giving them our old inventory. We are funding our new war machine with every military support bill. War Machine = the bureaucratic pension
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