- June 11th, 2022, 9:23 pm
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How about trying to be a Supreme Court Justice with Chuck Schumer in charge? Nuts.
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stokesjokes wrote: ↑June 11th, 2022, 9:54 pm You’re not answering my question, so I assume you don’t have anything. They’re genuine republicans who have the audacity to not kowtow to trump, that’s why you don’t like them. That’s why you throw mittens in there too, that’s the only common thread.All three knowhow to the self-serving swamp critters.
TH Spangler wrote:Spin. Disney is free to speak. Free to get involved in politics. Why should they get a carve out Sea World dosen't.I don't understand your first sentence. Can you try to speak in full sentences?
You didn't answer my question. Who's your guy?
thepostman wrote: ↑June 12th, 2022, 11:14 am With all due respect, you are constantly not answering questions.Who lost their 1st amendment?
Why is it ok for DeSantis to violate 1st Amendment rights? You as a citizen have every right to not give your business to companies based on their poltics all you want. The government shouldn't be in that business. That is a pretty standard conservative ideal. Or at least it use to be.
TH Spangler wrote: ↑June 12th, 2022, 9:49 am Spin. Disney is free to speak. Free to get involved in politics. Why should they get a carve out Sea World dosen't.They already had it and it was revoked specifically because of their speech on LGBT issues. That's not being "free to speak." In fact, it's the exact opposite. They received government retaliation because of their speech, which is literally the exact thing the first amendment is meant to protect against.
You didn't answer my question. Who's your guy?
stokesjokes wrote: ↑June 11th, 2022, 1:04 pm This is where I get frustrated- people dismissing pathologically dangerous character traits as “mean tweets” or “a temper.”You would think Liberty folks would understand this after going thru the Falwell Jr. saga
If you’ve ever been close to a malignant narcissist you would see it- the lengths they will go to protect their self-concept and the seething rage when someone pushes back against it. It doesn’t end anywhere other than destruction and chaos and it’s pitiful that so many justified minimizing it and supporting him because they thought he could be useful towards an end.
Thank God for Mike Pence, someone who had character when it mattered, even when it had great potential personal cost to him. It’s scary to think where we might have ended up without him.
stokesjokes wrote: ↑June 13th, 2022, 9:01 am I think you've got it backwards- Liberty went through this precisely because of this mindset. Listen to how Prevo and others continue to talk about Jerry Jr. They glow about how useful he was.There is no real reason Prevo and Co. should be making any comments at all about Jr, and the fact that they are unable to restrain themselves is troubling. If there is not a significant purge of the board, I will quite frankly be surprised if he is not eventually reinstated.
stokesjokes wrote: ↑June 11th, 2022, 9:27 amI’m a little behind. When did Trump say Pence should be hanged?TH Spangler wrote: ↑June 10th, 2022, 5:36 pm“I’d rather vote for the guy who said his Vice President deserved to be hanged than the people making a big deal about it.”
After watching the Jan 6 show I might have to reconsider. Pull for Trump to run again. The Washington established really fears an outsider. The drama continues
stokesjokes wrote: ↑June 11th, 2022, 2:33 pm What? Mitch McConnell killed the actual independent bipartisan commission after it overwhelmingly passed the house. Then they used a "congressional select committee" as a workaround, McCarthy submitted 5 R names for the committee, Nancy said "no" on the two names that were going to be implicated by the commission (so shouldn't serve on it), so McCarthy withdrew all 5 of the names. There were plenty of Rs that would have been acceptable for the committee, but McCarthy refused to nominate them. Even so, we ended up with two Rs who have impeccable GOP bona fides, other than not having unwavering loyalty to Trump, on the committee. Heck, they both voted for Trump in both elections.“Implicated by the commission “? Who is in charge of overseeing the security of the Capitol? That person should be called in front of the Commission not hand picking them. EVERY member of Congress that day, including Liz, was a possible witness. Pelosi didn’t want a bipartisan commission. She wanted a narrative and bucked decades of precedent to get it. One side should not dictate to the other who is and isn’t allowed to be selected
Purple Haize wrote: ↑June 13th, 2022, 3:44 pmYou mean you weren’t watching the prime time event??stokesjokes wrote: ↑June 11th, 2022, 9:27 amI’m a little behind. When did Trump say Pence should be hanged?TH Spangler wrote: ↑June 10th, 2022, 5:36 pm“I’d rather vote for the guy who said his Vice President deserved to be hanged than the people making a big deal about it.”
After watching the Jan 6 show I might have to reconsider. Pull for Trump to run again. The Washington established really fears an outsider. The drama continues
stokesjokes wrote: ↑June 13th, 2022, 7:22 pmI’m not currently in a position to watch a lot of US television. So if you could post a named source or a quote of Trump saying Pence should be hanged that’d be great.Purple Haize wrote: ↑June 13th, 2022, 3:44 pmYou mean you weren’t watching the prime time event??stokesjokes wrote: ↑June 11th, 2022, 9:27 amI’m a little behind. When did Trump say Pence should be hanged?
“I’d rather vote for the guy who said his Vice President deserved to be hanged than the people making a big deal about it.”
Here’s a short clip:
Early reporting says that testimony came from Meadows. We’ll know more as the hearings continue, so you better tune in
As per the committee selection, I think both sides were playing politics, I think McCarthy knew the Jims wouldn’t be acceptable, so he could grandstand when they got rejected. I also think Nancy didn’t want anyone purposely gumming up the works on the commission. I’m also of the opinion that there’s more involvement to the two Jims than we’ve heard. I would not be shocked if either are among the members of congress who asked Trump for pardons afterwards.
JK37 wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 8:46 am Tongue in cheek.If I had a nickel for every time someone said of Trump “well, that’s not what he really meant,” when he said something terrible or ridiculous I’d have a lot of nickels. The testimony is that Trump said “he deserves it,” which doesn’t mean that Trump was actively looking to hang Pence, but it seems pretty clear that he wouldn’t have minded, since Pence had the gall to undermine his plans to overturn the election. That’s not tongue-in-cheek, that’s his MO of bullying and intimidation. It’s textbook narcissistic abuse. Do exactly what he says or you’re dead to him and you’ll get what you “deserve.”