[Jonathan Carone]

Last week I noticed something and wanted to bring it here since you all are mostly more conservative politically than me. I ask this not in a gotcha! way, but with a genuine curiosity.

In general, conservatives hold the American flag in the highest esteem. You don’t mess with the flag. You don’t change it. You don’t kneel.

Why then is it acceptable for the Three Percenters to take the Betsy Ross flag and insert their logo onto it?

I saw multiple versions of this flag flying at the beach last week and didn’t understand why this one thing is acceptable but others aren’t.

[Purple Haize]

1 I’m not familiar with what a 3% is
2 The Betsy Ross flag isn’t really the US Flag
3 It’s more about respecting the US flag and not disrespecting it or desecrating it than it is about following US Flag Code

[jbock13]

I travel quite a bit and I can honestly say I’ve never seen this flag. I agree with your point that its no different than the left, but I also don’t believe in worshipping flags.

I do believe in respecting one’s country, however.

[Jonathan Carone]

Three Percenters are a far right militia type group. Heavily focused on gun ownership and hate the federal government. It’s been around since the Obama election but has really gained more and more popularity over the last year, especially in very strong conservative areas.

[flameshaw]

Where can I get one?

[olldflame]

FYI, the 3% name is based on the assertion (which I believe has been fairly well debunked) that only 3% of the colonists actually took up arms in the revolutionary war.

[JK37]

Last week I noticed something and wanted to bring it here since you all are mostly more conservative politically than me. I ask this not in a gotcha! way, but with a genuine curiosity.

In general, conservatives hold the American flag in the highest esteem. You don’t mess with the flag. You don’t change it. You don’t kneel.

Why then is it acceptable for the Three Percenters to take the Betsy Ross flag and insert their logo onto it?

I saw multiple versions of this flag flying at the beach last week and didn’t understand why this one thing is acceptable but others aren’t.

I don’t fully agree with your premise. One can hold the American flag in high esteem and choose to believe its wrong to kneel, and also believe its wrong to deface the flag in the way this militia group apparently does.

Sounds like it’s only acceptable in this instance to the 3% Militia. If they feel that strongly in the abolishment of the federal government, they might burn the American flag as well. Which I believe is their right, even if I won’t choose to do the same.

[Purple Haize]

Three Percenters are a far right militia type group. Heavily focused on gun ownership and hate the federal government. It’s been around since the Obama election but has really gained more and more popularity over the last year, especially in very strong conservative areas.

I think it’s kinda cool looking. Not sure what’s to be offended about. Do you think you might be spending too much time looking at the extremes and not the mainstream? I mean I like guns. I’m not a fan of the Federal Government. But that doesn’t make me a 3% or White Supremacist or Nazi or whatever
If you’re not careful I’m fearful you will end up like these people...

https://nypost.com/2020/07/29/norwegian ... rate-flag/

[Jonathan Carone]

I came across the organization because a dad at daycare had the logo on his window. I’d never seen it so I looked up who they were. Then last week there was a flag flying on a condo across from where we were staying so I saw it any time I walked outside. Those are my main two interactions. Again - I’m more curious in rationale than anything. I have my own feelings on the flag but I’m fascinated by how people with different views than me interpret things.

[Purple Haize]

I came across the organization because a dad at daycare had the logo on his window. I’d never seen it so I looked up who they were. Then last week there was a flag flying on a condo across from where we were staying so I saw it any time I walked outside. Those are my main two interactions. Again - I’m more curious in rationale than anything. I have my own feelings on the flag but I’m fascinated by how people with different views than me interpret things.

Maybe they were just normal dudes and thought it looked cool? That’s how I see it.

[thepostman]

They aren't a white nationalist group but there are white nationalist who agree with their poltics and wear their patch and wave their flag even though they aren't part of the group. Much like a lot of right wing groups, there is some overlapping but the group's leadership does not speak highly of white nationalists.

Anyways, I wouldn't be waving the flag but if you do have fun I guess.

[RubberMallet]

i'm not sure modifying the flag into your own version has the same bearing as burning/destruction of the flag which is what most conservatives seem to be the most critical of. projecting them to be the same thing seems absurd.

[Jonathan Carone]

I don't view modifying and destroying at the same level at all and would agree they don't have the same bearing.

[stokesjokes]

I don't think it's any different than the blue line flag for police or red line flag for firefighters, etc. You'll probably find that those who take issue with the "modification" of the flag are taking issue with the belief behind it, not with the act itself. After all, flags are symbols.

[Jonathan Carone]

I don't think it's any different than the blue line flag for police or red line flag for firefighters, etc. You'll probably find that those who take issue with the "modification" of the flag are taking issue with the belief behind it, not with the act itself. After all, flags are symbols.

This is a really great comparison.

[ATrain]

I have a Liberty flag that has red and blue stripes, and a few stars around the LU logo on the field of blue. I also have a VT flag that has maroon and orange stripes. I find no issue with it, and I find no issue with those who kneel during the anthem either. The beauty of America is, you can do those things, and the right to do them is worth fighting for.

[rogers3]

Last week I noticed something and wanted to bring it here since you all are mostly more conservative politically than me. I ask this not in a gotcha! way, but with a genuine curiosity.

In general, conservatives hold the American flag in the highest esteem. You don’t mess with the flag. You don’t change it. You don’t kneel.

Why then is it acceptable for the Three Percenters to take the Betsy Ross flag and insert their logo onto it?

I saw multiple versions of this flag flying at the beach last week and didn’t understand why this one thing is acceptable but others aren’t.

Curious. What beach did you visit? I was at Nags Head and one would think there was a Trump rally going on.

[Jonathan Carone]

Garden City, SC. Tons of Trump flags from condos.

[lynchburgwildcats]

3%s are idiots but I don’t care what they or anyone else does to or with the flag.

I just find it funny that the stereotypical huge flag worshippers frequently violate the flag code but will complain if someone does something that they perceive as disrespectful to the flag. Like man some of them have American flag underwear, they’re literally rubbing their genitals and butt on the flag and getting skid marks on it.

[RubberMallet]

lol like really lol. yeah i was someone who mentioned that back during the whole kneeling thing.