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Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 8:41 am
by paradox
Faucci is a living parody of the idea that consensus thinking based on expert opinion should be valued over critical thinking, common sense and personal liberties.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 2:26 pm
by RubberMallet
flameshaw wrote:Yesterday, had a guy ask me where my mask was. Let's just say that I am confident he won't be asking anyone that again. 8)
It is becoming increasingly clear that Fauchi did support the factory in Wuhan (and others). It was somewhat indirectly. I will withhold judgement on that until it is confirmed by other sources.
What is 100% clear is that Fauchi is horribly dishonest or has no idea what he is talking about. The first month the virus was discovered, he said that "masks are ineffective" and did more harm than good. Very, very to easy to find the video that shows him saying it. One cannot deny that. He has changed his mind more than Gregg Marshall. Most of the health care community has as well.
BTW, I got the vaccine, I am not anti-vaccine. I am considered a high-risk person. I would not encourage anyone under the age of 35 to get it, unless they have other contributing health problems.
i'm not anti anything from a preventative standpoint. masks are annoying but i don't care, i wear neck gators that do absolutely nothing and nobody says a word. If i fall into a chair where they are poking people with the vaccine, i'll let them proceed. One of the issues is that the only argument i now hear regarding masks is that "it helps others feel better" as a major reason to keep wearing it. get out of here.

Fauci has tied himself in knots pretty frequently, when he's asked about florida and texas he just basically looks completely out of sorts. When you have people close to you that have died from Covid you certainly try and discuss this stuff with some care but some of this stuff continuing is pretty ridiculous. Its all CYA.

I believe very few governors are safe come next year. its going to be a bloodletting. theres no way our fat stooge here in illinois is going to get reelected.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 2:34 pm
by JK37
“It’s all CYA.”

In the litigious world we inhabit, this is 100% true.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 2:44 pm
by Purple Haize
DiSantis is sitting pretty. The story that was his biggest Achilles heel just got blown up.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/ ... kedG7zGsE0

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 5:27 pm
by LU 57
Purple Haize wrote: May 13th, 2021, 2:44 pm DiSantis is sitting pretty. The story that was his biggest Achilles heel just got blown up.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/ ... kedG7zGsE0
Agreed. Hoping he is our next president; although it seems we will likely have one more before him. :wink:

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 5:29 pm
by olldflame
Purple Haize wrote: May 13th, 2021, 2:44 pm DiSantis is sitting pretty. The story that was his biggest Achilles heel just got blown up.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/ ... kedG7zGsE0
It's been pretty obvious this was the deal for some time, but it's good to get it confirmed.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 5:36 pm
by olldflame
RubberMallet wrote: May 13th, 2021, 2:26 pm
flameshaw wrote:Yesterday, had a guy ask me where my mask was. Let's just say that I am confident he won't be asking anyone that again. 8)
It is becoming increasingly clear that Fauchi did support the factory in Wuhan (and others). It was somewhat indirectly. I will withhold judgement on that until it is confirmed by other sources.
What is 100% clear is that Fauchi is horribly dishonest or has no idea what he is talking about. The first month the virus was discovered, he said that "masks are ineffective" and did more harm than good. Very, very to easy to find the video that shows him saying it. One cannot deny that. He has changed his mind more than Gregg Marshall. Most of the health care community has as well.
BTW, I got the vaccine, I am not anti-vaccine. I am considered a high-risk person. I would not encourage anyone under the age of 35 to get it, unless they have other contributing health problems.
i'm not anti anything from a preventative standpoint. masks are annoying but i don't care, i wear neck gators that do absolutely nothing and nobody says a word. If i fall into a chair where they are poking people with the vaccine, i'll let them proceed. One of the issues is that the only argument i now hear regarding masks is that "it helps others feel better" as a major reason to keep wearing it. get out of here.

Fauci has tied himself in knots pretty frequently, when he's asked about florida and texas he just basically looks completely out of sorts. When you have people close to you that have died from Covid you certainly try and discuss this stuff with some care but some of this stuff continuing is pretty ridiculous. Its all CYA.

I believe very few governors are safe come next year. its going to be a bloodletting. theres no way our fat stooge here in illinois is going to get reelected.
I've been wearing a gator as well, and you are correct that they are not recommended as being effective because they are single layer cloth, but have pretty much not been questioned til recently. American Airlines has announced they will not meet their masking requirement for passengers. Allegedly brought to their attention by a Twitter Karen.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 15th, 2021, 8:45 am
by paradox
Just go ahead and wear an official surgical mask over the gator. Studies have shown that it allows an extra layer of protection that is especially helpful if you are already double-vaccinated. Of course, the efficacy threshold is extremely vulnerable to the new Norwegian variants that contain certain systemic and imperialistic elements. The only thing that can stop those variants is excessive street protesting along with additional state-mandated restrictions.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 15th, 2021, 7:56 pm
by olldflame
paradox wrote: May 15th, 2021, 8:45 am Just go ahead and wear an official surgical mask over the gator. Studies have shown that it allows an extra layer of protection that is especially helpful if you are already double-vaccinated. Of course, the efficacy threshold is extremely vulnerable to the new Norwegian variants that contain certain systemic and imperialistic elements. The only thing that can stop those variants is excessive street protesting along with additional state-mandated restrictions.
No double masking for this guy :roll:
I will try to avoid flying AA, but if I have to, I will just switch from the gator to the surgical mask while I am in their "jurisdiction" and switch back when I am not. As far as I know, they are still the only airline which is not allowing them.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 15th, 2021, 8:24 pm
by Purple Haize
olldflame wrote: May 15th, 2021, 7:56 pm
paradox wrote: May 15th, 2021, 8:45 am Just go ahead and wear an official surgical mask over the gator. Studies have shown that it allows an extra layer of protection that is especially helpful if you are already double-vaccinated. Of course, the efficacy threshold is extremely vulnerable to the new Norwegian variants that contain certain systemic and imperialistic elements. The only thing that can stop those variants is excessive street protesting along with additional state-mandated restrictions.
No double masking for this guy :roll:
I will try to avoid flying AA, but if I have to, I will just switch from the gator to the surgical mask while I am in their "jurisdiction" and switch back when I am not. As far as I know, they are still the only airline which is not allowing them.
Going to Vegas in under a month on AA. Hopefully the world will be mask free by then. Trending that way

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 15th, 2021, 10:01 pm
by JK37
Jealous.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 16th, 2021, 6:28 am
by Purple Haize
JK37 wrote: May 15th, 2021, 10:01 pmJealous.
As you should be! I think it’s been about 7 years since we’ve been. The hotels/casinos just announced they are going mask free which is gonna be nice. We thought about going in July but it was about $300-600 more fore the same trip. Reason? That’s when the mask mandate was originally supposed to be lifted.
Staying at the Cosmo and I definitely want to try Secret Pizza. Piff and Absinthe are on our show list. All mask free!

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 16th, 2021, 9:23 am
by JK37
Cosmo is my favorite hotel. Love their spa. I would reserve a whole day for that.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 16th, 2021, 9:56 am
by thepostman
One of the first things cacelled last spring for me was a work conference in Vegas. Since my wife and I have never been we tacked on some extra days to hang out together. I'm not sure when, but that trip will be rescheduled!

I'm more excited about stuff like that than removing a stupid cloth off my face haha.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 16th, 2021, 10:39 am
by Purple Haize
JK37 wrote: May 16th, 2021, 9:23 am Cosmo is my favorite hotel. Love their spa. I would reserve a whole day for that.
Good info. Mrs Purple wasn’t too sure about Cosmo since she’d never heard of it. She was thinking Paris or Venetian. Location and Balcony overlooking Bellagio Fountains won the day for me :D
She will definitely do the spa

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 18th, 2021, 8:25 am
by TH Spangler
Just can't figure out why we thought it was a good idea to fund reasurch at the Wuhan lab.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4133486

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 25th, 2021, 9:12 am
by SumItUp
Fauci has no credibility and has lost the shield of the MSM. He's toast. I doubt he stays in his position for 60 days.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 26th, 2021, 8:38 am
by paradox
The mindset will remain the same though. Authority figures who hold the keys, get to say, "the science says." And when they do, they have the world at their command. At least, it looks that way for now.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 28th, 2021, 5:13 pm
by ATrain
thepostman wrote: May 16th, 2021, 9:56 am One of the first things cacelled last spring for me was a work conference in Vegas. Since my wife and I have never been we tacked on some extra days to hang out together. I'm not sure when, but that trip will be rescheduled!

I'm more excited about stuff like that than removing a stupid cloth off my face haha.
Unfortunately, our Oktoberfest trip got canceled AGAIN!!!!! Enjoy your Vegas trip. We've been, nice to see once, and then on to other places

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 28th, 2021, 5:31 pm
by JK37
How did you do all of Vegas at once? We’re you there three weeks?!

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 28th, 2021, 5:33 pm
by thepostman
ATrain wrote: May 28th, 2021, 5:13 pm
thepostman wrote: May 16th, 2021, 9:56 am One of the first things cacelled last spring for me was a work conference in Vegas. Since my wife and I have never been we tacked on some extra days to hang out together. I'm not sure when, but that trip will be rescheduled!

I'm more excited about stuff like that than removing a stupid cloth off my face haha.
Unfortunately, our Oktoberfest trip got canceled AGAIN!!!!! Enjoy your Vegas trip. We've been, nice to see once, and then on to other places
We haven't rescheduled yet but looking forward to when we can.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 28th, 2021, 6:31 pm
by TH Spangler
SumItUp wrote: May 25th, 2021, 9:12 am Fauci has no credibility and has lost the shield of the MSM. He's toast. I doubt he stays in his position for 60 days.
This is getting more bizarre everyday. Fauci and a few other Americans might have some liability. I don't know where the evidence is leading.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 29th, 2021, 9:56 am
by paradox
Probably going nowhere. Let's not forget that Trump put him in charge, knowing that he was a germaphobe. He was pretty much introduced as the man who thinks handshaking should be outlawed. Bad move bringing him in and and not handing it off to military professionals.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 29th, 2021, 1:00 pm
by TH Spangler
paradox wrote: May 29th, 2021, 9:56 am Probably going nowhere. Let's not forget that Trump put him in charge, knowing that he was a germaphobe. He was pretty much introduced as the man who thinks handshaking should be outlawed. Bad move bringing him in and and not handing it off to military professionals.
One of the few mistakes Trump made. I think Fauci helped created a loophole in 2017 to get around the Obama admin 2014 ban on gain of function research here in the US ... moved it to Wuhan while Trump admin was distracted battling the deepstate and Russia accusations.

Re: The COVID-19 Megathread

Posted: May 29th, 2021, 2:28 pm
by paradox
China does this kind of thing to their own people. Killing off the old and the less healthy is considered advantageous to a totalitarian regime. So, from their perspective, they would be doing the West a great favor. In that sense, it would be hard to reconcile it all as a grand shadowy scheme against us.