- March 14th, 2020, 10:13 am
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Got to be the moonshine! I'm thinking about watching the movie logan lucky today to celebrate WVA national title vs corona virus, haha
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ATrain wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 10:03 am I have a friend in WV who routinely works with the public. He started displaying symptoms, tested negative for strep throat, flu, etc... but they still wouldn't test him for Coronavirus due to the red tape in WV. There can't be any confirmed cases if you can't test people
TH Spangler wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 11:39 am Here's what Im reading ...... People under the age of 80 who do not have risk factors such as asthma/emphysema, heart disease, diabetes, obesity, autoimmune disorders, cardiopulmonary disorders, or smoke ARE AT LITTLE TO NO RISK OF DYING FROM COVID-19.What needs to be separated is Contracting and Dying. When there are reports of people Contracting the Wuhan Virus they make it sound like it’s fatal.
From the CDC: " Overall, China CDC found, 2.3% of confirmed cases died. But the fatality rate was 14.8% in people 80 or older, likely reflecting the presence of other diseases, a weaker immune system, or simply worse overall health. By contrast, the fatality rate was 1.3% in 50-somethings, 0.4% in 40-somethings, and 0.2% in people 10 to 39, .004% up to 9. "
TH Spangler wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 11:39 am Here's what Im reading ...... People under the age of 80 who do not have risk factors such as asthma/emphysema, heart disease, diabetes, obesity, autoimmune disorders, cardiopulmonary disorders, or smoke ARE AT LITTLE TO NO RISK OF DYING FROM COVID-19.You still don’t get it. It’s not about protecting the young from dying. It’s about protecting the spread so the elderly don’t die and the hospitals aren’t overcrowded with sick people. There’s a good chance 40-60% of America will at some point contract the virus. The goal is to keep that spread out so the healthcare system can handle it.
From the CDC: " Overall, China CDC found, 2.3% of confirmed cases died. But the fatality rate was 14.8% in people 80 or older, likely reflecting the presence of other diseases, a weaker immune system, or simply worse overall health. By contrast, the fatality rate was 1.3% in 50-somethings, 0.4% in 40-somethings, and 0.2% in people 10 to 39, .004% up to 9. "
Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 11:51 am195 million Americans are not going to be flooding the ER rooms. Most people who show up on tests as having Wuhan are asymptomatic. But you are correct that we need to do are best at keeping those most at risk safeTH Spangler wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 11:39 am Here's what Im reading ...... People under the age of 80 who do not have risk factors such as asthma/emphysema, heart disease, diabetes, obesity, autoimmune disorders, cardiopulmonary disorders, or smoke ARE AT LITTLE TO NO RISK OF DYING FROM COVID-19.You still don’t get it. It’s not about protecting the young from dying. It’s about protecting the spread so the elderly don’t die and the hospitals aren’t overcrowded with sick people. There’s a good chance 40-60% of America will at some point contract the virus. The goal is to keep that spread out so the healthcare system can handle it.
From the CDC: " Overall, China CDC found, 2.3% of confirmed cases died. But the fatality rate was 14.8% in people 80 or older, likely reflecting the presence of other diseases, a weaker immune system, or simply worse overall health. By contrast, the fatality rate was 1.3% in 50-somethings, 0.4% in 40-somethings, and 0.2% in people 10 to 39, .004% up to 9. "
Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 12:13 pm I prefer some form of pants mainly because the bars on my chair are metal and they’re cold with no shorts/sweats on.I don't work from home much but it looks like it'll be the norm for the next couple of weeks so I'll find what works best. Kids will be home too so I probably won't really go pantless for their sake.
Purple Haize wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 12:20 pmIt’s not about the 195 million. If even 5% of that shows up because of this, it can overcrowd hospitals. It’s already hard enough for hospitals to get people to adhere to visitor restrictions. My wife has been dealing with that part of it all week, and she’s not even in the ER.Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 11:51 am195 million Americans are not going to be flooding the ER rooms. Most people who show up on tests as having Wuhan are asymptomatic. But you are correct that we need to do are best at keeping those most at risk safeTH Spangler wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 11:39 am Here's what Im reading ...... People under the age of 80 who do not have risk factors such as asthma/emphysema, heart disease, diabetes, obesity, autoimmune disorders, cardiopulmonary disorders, or smoke ARE AT LITTLE TO NO RISK OF DYING FROM COVID-19.You still don’t get it. It’s not about protecting the young from dying. It’s about protecting the spread so the elderly don’t die and the hospitals aren’t overcrowded with sick people. There’s a good chance 40-60% of America will at some point contract the virus. The goal is to keep that spread out so the healthcare system can handle it.
From the CDC: " Overall, China CDC found, 2.3% of confirmed cases died. But the fatality rate was 14.8% in people 80 or older, likely reflecting the presence of other diseases, a weaker immune system, or simply worse overall health. By contrast, the fatality rate was 1.3% in 50-somethings, 0.4% in 40-somethings, and 0.2% in people 10 to 39, .004% up to 9. "
Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 12:30 pmI’m saying I doubt your source saying there will be 195 million people who will contract this and show symptomsPurple Haize wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 12:20 pmIt’s not about the 195 million. If even 5% of that shows up because of this, it can overcrowd hospitals. It’s already hard enough for hospitals to get people to adhere to visitor restrictions. My wife has been dealing with that part of it all week, and she’s not even in the ER.Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 11:51 am195 million Americans are not going to be flooding the ER rooms. Most people who show up on tests as having Wuhan are asymptomatic. But you are correct that we need to do are best at keeping those most at risk safe
You still don’t get it. It’s not about protecting the young from dying. It’s about protecting the spread so the elderly don’t die and the hospitals aren’t overcrowded with sick people. There’s a good chance 40-60% of America will at some point contract the virus. The goal is to keep that spread out so the healthcare system can handle it.
thepostman wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 11:58 am My son has respiratory issues and regardless of stats, appreciate the precautionary measures being taken.Yes, pants are optional. Without kids, more things become optional LOL
I'll be working a lot more from home which means pants are optional, right?
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Purple Haize wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 12:20 pm 195 million Americans are not going to be flooding the ER rooms. Most people who show up on tests as having Wuhan are asymptomatic. But you are correct that we need to do are best at keeping those most at risk safeYou obviously have no experience in this, but constantly referring it to this as the "Wuhan" or the "Chinese" virus is being used by folks as an excuse to express their ignorant racist frustrations at people of Asian descent.
Yacht Rock wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 2:23 pmWhere have I used the term Chinese Virus? I use Wuhan and Corona interchangeably because they are used interchangeably. It’s even described as the Wuhan Corona virus. I have never seen the term Chinese Virus used thus I don’t use it. It’s why you say Lyme Disease and not Connecticut Disease.Purple Haize wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 12:20 pm 195 million Americans are not going to be flooding the ER rooms. Most people who show up on tests as having Wuhan are asymptomatic. But you are correct that we need to do are best at keeping those most at risk safeYou obviously have no experience in this, but constantly referring it to this as the "Wuhan" or the "Chinese" virus is being used by folks as an excuse to express their ignorant racist frustrations at people of Asian descent.
You have a choice to be a better person and not feed those trolls, or you can continue to make this choice and feed their ignorance.
Just remember, your choices are having an impact on how other people (not you) are being treated. Your decisions of what terminology and language to use don't exist in a bubble.
It's also entirely possible that you don't care how other people (not you) are treated. If that's the case, then I guess it could be a moot point.
Purple Haize wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 2:52 pmYou might not realize it, but Wuhan is a region in China and only you know your intent. I am curious of your intent though when you choose to continue to use that term after being made aware of the impact that term has on populations and communities that you personally aren't a member of. Yes, that displays a lack of compassion toward Asians.Yacht Rock wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 2:23 pmWhere have I used the term Chinese Virus? I use Wuhan and Corona interchangeably because they are used interchangeably. It’s even described as the Wuhan Corona virus. I have never seen the term Chinese Virus used thus I don’t use it. It’s why you say Lyme Disease and not Connecticut Disease.Purple Haize wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 12:20 pm 195 million Americans are not going to be flooding the ER rooms. Most people who show up on tests as having Wuhan are asymptomatic. But you are correct that we need to do are best at keeping those most at risk safeYou obviously have no experience in this, but constantly referring it to this as the "Wuhan" or the "Chinese" virus is being used by folks as an excuse to express their ignorant racist frustrations at people of Asian descent.
You have a choice to be a better person and not feed those trolls, or you can continue to make this choice and feed their ignorance.
Just remember, your choices are having an impact on how other people (not you) are being treated. Your decisions of what terminology and language to use don't exist in a bubble.
It's also entirely possible that you don't care how other people (not you) are treated. If that's the case, then I guess it could be a moot point.
If you want to ascribe a racist intent from me for that....well I don’t know what tell you. To make a leap into questioning my level of compassion etc because of it seems like an odd pivot but that’s your prerogative. Feel free to point out where I have shown any racial animus towards Asians in these threads (or anywhere) and how I have applied the Wuhan Corona Virus to diminish them
jbock13 wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 2:55 pm Why do some people view literally everything and everything as racist?It wouldn't be racist if people weren't using it as an excuse to attack people of Asian descent. It would be a giant nothing burger otherwise.
Is it some sort of game? If you get a high score, do you win anything?
Yacht Rock wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 2:59 pmWhere has anyone here attacked anyone of Asian descent?jbock13 wrote: ↑March 14th, 2020, 2:55 pm Why do some people view literally everything and everything as racist?It wouldn't be racist if people weren't using it as an excuse to attack people of Asian descent. It would be a giant nothing burger otherwise.
Is it some sort of game? If you get a high score, do you win anything?