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By RubberMallet
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i've never seen so many "anti-war" friends demand we involve ourselves in this fight. we haven't had an antiwar party in this country since the 60's.
By jack_sparrow81
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100% agree with Haize on this. Didn't we just send troops to Saudi Arabia a couple of weeks ago? Regardless if we had 2000 troops or 2, the Turks knew better not to do anything with any of our presence there. If Israel gets involved, this thing may get out of hand with the bigger players involved.
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By CCWMichael
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jack_sparrow81 wrote: October 10th, 2019, 7:00 pm 100% agree with Haize on this. Didn't we just send troops to Saudi Arabia a couple of weeks ago? Regardless if we had 2000 troops or 2, the Turks knew better not to do anything with any of our presence there. If Israel gets involved, this thing may get out of hand with the bigger players involved.
IDF is no joke and would finish everything in short order.
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By Purple Haize
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CCWMichael wrote: October 13th, 2019, 6:45 pm
jack_sparrow81 wrote: October 10th, 2019, 7:00 pm 100% agree with Haize on this. Didn't we just send troops to Saudi Arabia a couple of weeks ago? Regardless if we had 2000 troops or 2, the Turks knew better not to do anything with any of our presence there. If Israel gets involved, this thing may get out of hand with the bigger players involved.
IDF is no joke and would finish everything in short order.
The only caveat I have with that is that the IDF is unbelievable in defensive wars and counter attack. Offensive wars have not gone well for them
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By TH Spangler
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CCWMichael wrote: October 13th, 2019, 8:09 pm More truthy

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/ ... you-think/
:dontgetit How can Christians with any knowledge about bible prophecy not bring it into this discussion. I never thought I would see a POTUS say he wants our military completely out of middle east conflicts.

Prophecy seems to say one day .... ""Russia, Turkey, Iran attack Israel via Syria. Some believe China plays a roll with an army. Damascus becomes a heap of ruins? While Europe, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the US only protest.""

https://www.gotquestions.org/war-Syria-end-times.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/China-end-times.html
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By CCWMichael
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TH Spangler wrote: October 14th, 2019, 6:45 am
CCWMichael wrote: October 13th, 2019, 8:09 pm More truthy

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/ ... you-think/
:dontgetit How can Christians with any knowledge about bible prophecy not bring it into this discussion. I never thought I would see a POTUS say he wants our military completely out of middle east conflicts.

Prophecy seems to say one day .... ""Russia, Turkey, Iran attack Israel via Syria. Some believe China plays a roll with an army. Damascus becomes a heap of ruins? While Europe, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the US only protest.""

https://www.gotquestions.org/war-Syria-end-times.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/China-end-times.html
If it is time then nothing we can do to alter that. So it is written.
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By Jonathan Carone
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I have a hard time applying ancient prophesy to current events. I know people who have been making the connections to every event my entire life to the point where there’s too much unknown to connect those pieces anymore. I’m not saying you’re wrong - because the scripture is right there - but I’m just not able to go there.
By Yacht Rock
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At some point, when prophecy aligns, we'll all realize we were stupid for not seeing it. I honestly don't think it will be as clear beforehand as we think it will if we use the prophecies of Jesus as an example.
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By TH Spangler
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30 years ago I would have had a hard time seeing Russia, Iran, Syria, Turkey as allies. And Israel getting along with Saudi Arabia, Egypt. Now Europe and the US seem to be disengaging from any actual fighting.

I wonder if the Army from the East could be from North Korea not China? Or Both?
By LUDad
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TH Spangler wrote: October 15th, 2019, 7:35 am 30 years ago I would have had a hard time seeing Russia, Iran, Syria, Turkey as allies. And Israel getting along with Saudi Arabia, Egypt. Now Europe and the US seem to be disengaging from any actual fighting.

I wonder if the Army from the East could be from North Korea not China? Or Both?
What about an alternative? Christ was cruxified in 30 AD as many scholars believe. Daniel's 70th week was split in half. First 3.5 years fullfilled in 3.5 years of Christ's public ministry. In middle of week Christ was cut off (crucified). 3.5 years leading up to Titus setting camp, surrounding Jerusalem comprised 2nd half of week of years. By grace, Jews were provided 40 years, or one bibical generation, to embrace Christ and did not. Thus, wrath of God descended in form of Titus. Supposing end time events follow this first century template, you will not see final alignment of nations for decades after Daniel's 70th Week, part 2 begins.
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By Jonathan Carone
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A question for the conservatives here:

What are the red flags you see in Andrew Yang?

I’m fairly certain most of you will say the $1000/month hand out. So other than that one, what’s your opinion on his other policies?
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By chris leedlelee
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Yang is the best that Democrats have to offer. He is not a partisan hack, unlike the other candidates. However, with full employment in this economy, I do not believe his ideas are needed just yet. I believe that they will be necessary in 20 years or so as jobs such as truck driving and others that are standard to the American economy disappear. Yang is intriguing for sure, however, his views on issues such as the Second Amendment also make him difficult to support fully. If you want a good synopsis of Yang's views, listen to his podcast with Ben Shapiro, it's quite informative.
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By Purple Haize
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Jonathan Carone wrote: October 15th, 2019, 9:21 pm A question for the conservatives here:

What are the red flags you see in Andrew Yang?

I’m fairly certain most of you will say the $1000/month hand out. So other than that one, what’s your opinion on his other policies?
That’s sort of a non starter. UBI only works if you get rid of all other social programs.
Medicare For Alll (See above)
Rewarding illegal immigrants with automatic citizenship
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By Purple Haize
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chris leedlelee wrote: October 15th, 2019, 9:56 pm Yang is the best that Democrats have to offer. He is not a partisan hack, unlike the other candidates. However, with full employment in this economy, I do not believe his ideas are needed just yet. I believe that they will be necessary in 20 years or so as jobs such as truck driving and others that are standard to the American economy disappear. Yang is intriguing for sure, however, his views on issues such as the Second Amendment also make him difficult to support fully. If you want a good synopsis of Yang's views, listen to his podcast with Ben Shapiro, it's quite informative.
I like Tulsi of the ones on the stage. She’s solid on foreign policy.
By ATrain
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Purple Haize wrote: October 15th, 2019, 10:39 pm
chris leedlelee wrote: October 15th, 2019, 9:56 pm Yang is the best that Democrats have to offer. He is not a partisan hack, unlike the other candidates. However, with full employment in this economy, I do not believe his ideas are needed just yet. I believe that they will be necessary in 20 years or so as jobs such as truck driving and others that are standard to the American economy disappear. Yang is intriguing for sure, however, his views on issues such as the Second Amendment also make him difficult to support fully. If you want a good synopsis of Yang's views, listen to his podcast with Ben Shapiro, it's quite informative.
I like Tulsi of the ones on the stage. She’s solid on foreign policy.
I agree on Tulsi.
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By CCWMichael
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Yang out. Constitution matters.
He does not even address gang violence which is the biggest player.
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/gun-safety/

Universal basic income? Poorest of the poor ideas. See Thomas Sowell and Keynes. Full employment is dependent upon wage flexibility.

Human Centered Capitalism??? That is taking from shareholders and stakeholders so a HARD PASS.
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By CCWMichael
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Tulsi out.

She is going the same way with business as the hard left --- people before profit. Again, the socialist model has never and never will work. To earn that cash she is talking about you need investors or shareholders and stakeholders whomwant success. See all major economists that are not socialist minded on this.
Equal opportunity does not equate to equal success rate even among siblings much less an entire population. reality matters with some concepts. All of us here have equal opportunity yet our outcomes vary greatly.

2A --No to reciprocation to carry and many more. NO. Here is why the NRA and 2A defenders should never back down. Look at smoking. First it was go to another part of the establishment. Then just the bar. Then outside. Then ....
That is how we lose essential rights by chipping away.
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By CCWMichael
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Jonathan Carone wrote: October 16th, 2019, 11:29 am Smoking and inconveniencing other people with deadly chemicals is an essential right?
Smoking is not an essential right. The premise of how things are taken by governments is.
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By LU 57
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I am not a fan of Trump by any means, and did not vote for him in the last election (I voted for McMullin), but the Beto comment on taking away tax-exempt status from religious institutions is the final straw for me. I realize Mayor Pete tried to walk it back, but it seems pretty clear they all feel the same way, they are just not quite comfortable saying it in a public forum quite yet. Looks like I will just have to hold my nose and pull the lever for Trump.

Ben Shapiro was pretty funny about it. He said he would "walk on broken glass on his knees to vote for Trump" if the Democrats try to take away his ability to educate his kids in a way he sees fit.
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By Jonathan Carone
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I don't think most of them are nearly as militaristic about the tax-exempt thing as Beto is. Most realize the damaging reality of taking that away.

I'm also pretty sure Pete and Beto do not like each other at all.
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By LU 57
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Jonathan Carone wrote: October 16th, 2019, 11:41 am I don't think most of them are nearly as militaristic about the tax-exempt thing as Beto is. Most realize the damaging reality of taking that away.
I hope you are right. The left really moved the goalpost on this though. The original premise with Obergfell was to gain the right to marry. Since then it has moved to something entirely different. You must now endorse the lifestyle or you are a bigot.
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By thepostman
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CCWMichael wrote: October 16th, 2019, 11:28 am Tulsi out.

She is going the same way with business as the hard left --- people before profit. Again, the socialist model has never and never will work. To earn that cash she is talking about you need investors or shareholders and stakeholders whomwant success. See all major economists that are not socialist minded on this.
Equal opportunity does not equate to equal success rate even among siblings much less an entire population. reality matters with some concepts. All of us here have equal opportunity yet our outcomes vary greatly.

2A --No to reciprocation to carry and many more. NO. Here is why the NRA and 2A defenders should never back down. Look at smoking. First it was go to another part of the establishment. Then just the bar. Then outside. Then ....
That is how we lose essential rights by chipping away.
This is not a good comparison at all. The act of smoking does not only negatively impact you and negatively impacts those around you. There isn't any arguing that fact. I am all for personal liberty but that does not mean you should be allowed to harm someone's health.
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By jinxy
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I agree with lu57. All you have to do is take their individual comments on it or individual christians after a controversial topic and review them together and its the same thing regurgitated. Gabbard is the only one that fits what carone is talking about but she has no chance because of it. Look at the way the party is treating her and theres no argument.

In fact shapiro or walsh (forget which one) just spliced tofether their comments over the last year on the issue and its darn close to beto. Hes in the gutter and is trying whatever he can to get attention so he has nothing to lose by it.

The moving the goal analogy is perfect. Look at every social issue and its progression ovee the laat 10 to 15 years. It wont stop because they dont want opposing view points.
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