A Sea Of Red

There's a proposed bill that is allowing NCAA players to profit off of their likeness. Is it a coincidence that the representative presenting this bill is from North Carolina? Anyhow, wanted to see what you guys think about this. Ballcoach we already know where you lie in thus discussion. Here's a link of an article from Sports Illustrated website:

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2 ... ark-walker

I like the idea but federal government has enough to worry about. This is not something that they should be messing with.

That congressman should be detained and escorted to a mental institution, for evaluation.

Allowing a third-party to pay college athletes will destroy college sports. If you pay the QB, you will have to pay center snapping him the ball. on and on it goes. There will be so much corruption, the integrity of college sports will be destroyed. 3rd parties need to stay out of NCAA.

ballcoach15 wrote:If you pay the QB, you will have to pay center snapping him the ball. on and on it goes.

That is a completely wrong interpretation of the proposal.

If you ALLOW the QB to trade on his likeness, you must ALLOW the center the same freedom.

JK37 wrote:

ballcoach15 wrote:If you pay the QB, you will have to pay center snapping him the ball. on and on it goes.

That is a completely wrong interpretation of the proposal.

If you ALLOW the QB to trade on his likeness, you must ALLOW the center the same freedom.

You and I both know that’s not how it going to end up being interpreted. Title IX will come into play. There will be a “pay scale” and a “quota”’of how many “likenesses” and of whom can be traded upon. Which is why the likelihood of the Pay To Play Super Conference not associated with the NCAA or receiving money from the institutions is going to become more and more inviting to the “Have’s” in college athletics

That may be true, but centers don't possess this "so called likeness" that QBs, RBs, and WRs can cash in on. If this crap happens, rogue agents will be paying high school players to sign with "their school". What happens when a $100,000.00 QB gets benched and a $500.00 QB gets starting job ? There would me so many problems with this, instead of a head coach having 10 assistant coaches, he would need 10 lawyers.
Very stupid idea. If any player doesn't like what he's given now to play college football, basketball or any other sport, let him pay his own way thru school, or quit and get a job. Schools should not have to complete as the highest bidder for a recruit.

Hate to break it to you ballcoach. That is how it already works.

ballcoach15 wrote:That may be true, but centers don't possess this "so called likeness" that QBs, RBs, and WRs can cash in on. If this crap happens, rogue agents will be paying high school players to sign with "their school". What happens when a $100,000.00 QB gets benched and a $500.00 QB gets starting job ? There would me so many problems with this, instead of a head coach having 10 assistant coaches, he would need 10 lawyers.
Very stupid idea. If any player doesn't like what he's given now to play college football, basketball or any other sport, let him pay his own way thru school, or quit and get a job. Schools should not have to complete as the highest bidder for a recruit.

That's called the free market economy. Why do you want to restrict it because it's going to hurt someone else's feelings?

Because he is a socialist Democrat but doesn't want to admit it.

Free market economy should not apply to high school and college athletes. What's next ? Paying little Leaguers and T ball players ? When in school play for fun and try to win championships. After school, go pro if you're good enough.

If a Little Leaguer is making someone tons of money then yeah, they deserve to be able to capitalize on their likeness.

For those of you who took Sport History back in the day........
A lot of this is traced back to AAU days and the concept of Amateurism in Sports. That’s why The Dream Team was such a big deal on several levels. Football can be thanked for the formation of the NCAA. So you just can’t look at this issue through the lens of modern perspective

Wasn't the term "student athlete" formed by the NCAA as a way to be exempt from providing workers comp to players injured while playing football, or another other sport, for their school?

I remember seeing that somewhere but I have no idea if it is true.

It is just a matter of time until schools break away from the NCAA. So any of these debates really won't matter.

If they attend school, they are a student.

(UNC gets a free pass on this one)

ballcoach15 wrote:Free market economy should not apply to high school and college athletes. What's next ? Paying little Leaguers and T ball players ? When in school play for fun and try to win championships. After school, go pro if you're good enough.

I enjoy the irony of American sports being run in a rather socialistic style, as opposed to say, the Premier League in England/Wales. But I suppose that's a topic for another day.

ballcoach15 wrote:If they attend school, they are a student.

(UNC gets a free pass on this one)

I still think it is comical how much you fight for the NCAA on this issue and then claim to hate the NCAA.

It makes zero sense but then again you rarely make much sense so it is par for the course.

ElmersTwin wrote:

ballcoach15 wrote:Free market economy should not apply to high school and college athletes. What's next ? Paying little Leaguers and T ball players ? When in school play for fun and try to win championships. After school, go pro if you're good enough.

I enjoy the irony of American sports being run in a rather socialistic style, as opposed to say, the Premier League in England/Wales. But I suppose that's a topic for another day.

It is absolutely ridiculous.

ElmersTwin wrote:

ballcoach15 wrote:Free market economy should not apply to high school and college athletes. What's next ? Paying little Leaguers and T ball players ? When in school play for fun and try to win championships. After school, go pro if you're good enough.

I enjoy the irony of American sports being run in a rather socialistic style, as opposed to say, the Premier League in England/Wales. But I suppose that's a topic for another day.

People love their capitalism until it impacts their favorite sports team.

Until a student leaves school and gets drafted or signs as undrafted free agent, he is an amateur. I can't understand why some want athletes to get paid in college, when they know it will destroy college sports.

Why would it destroy college sports?

ballcoach15 wrote:Until a student leaves school and gets drafted or signs as undrafted free agent, he is an amateur. I can't understand why some want athletes to get paid in college, when they know it will destroy college sports.

I can't understand why you can't get your head around the idea that the entire reason the "student athlete" mantra became a thing is because the NCAA didn't want to compensate players. It's been a sham from the get go. And you've bought into it completely.

Luckily, ballcoach's way of thinking is not something that is growing in popularity.

Jonathan Carone wrote:

ballcoach15 wrote:Until a student leaves school and gets drafted or signs as undrafted free agent, he is an amateur. I can't understand why some want athletes to get paid in college, when they know it will destroy college sports.

I can't understand why you can't get your head around the idea that the entire reason the "student athlete" mantra became a thing is because the NCAA didn't want to compensate players. It's been a sham from the get go. And you've bought into it completely.

It was so dubious that Byers even recognized later in life how awful what he did was.

thepostman wrote:Wasn't the term "student athlete" formed by the NCAA as a way to be exempt from providing workers comp to players injured while playing football, or another other sport, for their school?

I remember seeing that somewhere but I have no idea if it is true.

It is just a matter of time until schools break away from the NCAA. So any of these debates really won't matter.

Yes. Back in the 60’s. Now however athletes can take out an insurance policy in case of injury

My photo and/or likeness has appeared on LU website 2 or 3 times in past 24 months. Does that mean I should get paid ?