[bballfan84]

if only war was actually decided by a game of risk

[Purple Haize]

if only war was actually decided by a game of risk

Then Madagascar would play a much more pivotal role in World affairs

[bluejacket]

"U.S. suspending program to train and equip Syrian rebels"
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/politics/ ... suspended/

[bluejacket]

"Iraq IS: Military claims al-Baghdadi convoy hit"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34500402

[Humble_Opinion]

Moscow is "deliberately targeting" U.S.-backed forces in Syria as part of a military campaign that has killed up to 150 U.S.-trained rebels, a U.S. official told Fox News.

The Pentagon believes they include Hezbollah operatives who have been defending the regime for years in Syria. Iranian and Syrian officials have long maintained that Iran has advisers and military experts in Syria. A U.S. official on Wednesday also told Fox News there is evidence from intelligence reports that Cuban paramilitary and special forces units are on the ground in Syria as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10 ... tcmp=hpbt1

[BJWilliams]

Apparently. ISIS took responsibility for a Russian airline crash and now Putin wants to nuke them until their corpses glow in the daylight

[Purple Haize]

Apparently. ISIS took responsibility for a Russian airline crash and now Putin wants to nuke them until their corpses glow in the daylight

Source?

[SuperJon]

It's scary how much BJ gets off to violence.

[BJWilliams]

Apparently. ISIS took responsibility for a Russian airline crash and now Putin wants to nuke them until their corpses glow in the daylight

Source?

Take it for what its worth: http://rightwingnews.com/isisisil/putin ... ssian-jet/

Its not that I "get off" to violence Jon, its more that I am not the diplomatic "sit across from the table and talk it out" type when it comes to our enemies. Id rather let our military might do the talking (and a few dozen smoldering craters).

[thepostman]

Once it is posted online I am going to share the message today at my church. It really convicted me and my revenge type attitude I was having.

Of course governments have a responsibility to keep their people safe but as Christians we also must remember that these people are in need of a savior too and there are tons of ministries out there doing amazingly brave work to share that message. I know I quickly forget that in the heat of the moment.

Ok. Jesus juke over.

[SuperJon]

Beej - it's not that you prefer military over diplomacy that makes me think you get off to violence. It's the "smoldering crater" and "corpses glow in the daylight" comments that you can resist making that show you love the violence of the military.

[Purple Haize]

If Putin wanted to nuke them, I think he's the kind of guy who would nuke first talk later

[BJWilliams]

I don't love the violence if the military...I love sending a strong and unequivocal message to those who hate us and hate freedom.

Which do you think conveys a stronger message to our enemies: sitting in a boardroom with the people who want to kill you by any means necessary, or uploading an aerial view of smoking ruins that says, "hey ISIS, Here is what we think of your little "kill list"

[thepostman]

It's not that simple bj. If it was evil would've been squashed a long time ago.

[SuperJon]

Beej - you're completely missing my point. Sometimes military action is needed, but you shouldn't take joy in killing thousands of people like you do.

[BJWilliams]

Here's how I handle the situation:

Obviously you want to minimize the civilian casualties (because no I don't find joy in the death of thousands of people genius). that said, Id have thousands of leaflets printed and dropped throughout the target country that basically say, "folks, this country is about to be bombed...heavily...in 72 hours. pack whatever you can and get out..." Obviously it will take a significant logistics to handle the giant influx of refugees that will need to be processed in the bordering nations, as well as rooting out the terrorists (and terrorist sympathizers) who no doubt will try to hide out among those evacuating.

There is more that I have to think about, but I wanted to at least get that out there because while I want to send a strong message, I am not advocating something bordering on genocide

[thepostman]

Too many war movies for you my friend.

[BJWilliams]

What's ironic about that is I really haven't watched all that many war movies.

[thepostman]

Ok then.

[Purple Haize]

Too many war movies for you my friend.

To be fair the military has done something like that in the past, and even in Iraq. The flip side is that the IDF often does the same. However, Hamas and their wonderful friends, hold the civilians 'hostage ' not allowing them to leave thus playing a nasty game of chicken

[BJWilliams]

I think I can count on one hand the number of war movies Ive seen in my lifetime (and one of them isn't Saving Private Ryan). My philosophy has always been threefold: 1) the best defense is a good offense 2) If youre going to do something, do it right and do it once (which is why I don't advocate just scrambling the jets and bombing the place back to the stone age with no regard for life, but you aren't going to want to have to go back again either)
3) When you send a message, leave zero doubt.

[BJWilliams]

Too many war movies for you my friend.

To be fair the military has done something like that in the past, and even in Iraq. The flip side is that the IDF often does the same. However, Hamas and their wonderful friends, hold the civilians 'hostage ' not allowing them to leave thus playing a nasty game of chicken

Indeed...that may mean getting some of our special forces boys in there to do a lot of rescuing in that 72 hour window and getting those people the heck out of there.

[thepostman]

Too many war movies for you my friend.

To be fair the military has done something like that in the past, and even in Iraq. The flip side is that the IDF often does the same. However, Hamas and their wonderful friends, hold the civilians 'hostage ' not allowing them to leave thus playing a nasty game of chicken

I had a really sarcastic response ready to go but will be nice. I am fully aware of the kind of military actions that have been taken in recent conflicts.

[Purple Haize]

Too many war movies for you my friend.

To be fair the military has done something like that in the past, and even in Iraq. The flip side is that the IDF often does the same. However, Hamas and their wonderful friends, hold the civilians 'hostage ' not allowing them to leave thus playing a nasty game of chicken

I had a really sarcastic response ready to go but will be nice. I am fully aware of the kind of military actions that have been taken in recent conflicts.

Aww man. You always have good ones!

I figured you did It was more for BJ"s benefit. But he ruined it with his SF reference.

[thepostman]

I didn't even see the special forces comment. I'm sure those guys would love bj sending them in!