[bradyfan]

Santorum drops out of the race today. The only thing Republicans are concerned with now is who Romney's VP will be. Hopefully, Gingrich and Paul will take notes.

[4everfsu]

The governor of Ohio would make a good VP pick.

[jbock13]

Fox News is so happy right now.

Hey guys, McCain won in February. How did all those months to attack Obama work out?

[jbock13]

Santorum drops out of the race today. The only thing Republicans are concerned with now is who Romney's VP will be. Hopefully, Gingrich and Paul will take notes.

Why is that? Why aren't people allowed to vote? Should we just cancel the rest of the primaries?

[thepostman]

May as well have cancelled all of them. The ones who count the votes had already decided who the winner would be. If things weren't going right, change the rules. Paul is racking up too many delegates? Change the rules for the convention!

Please explain

[LUminary]

The governor of Ohio would make a good VP pick.

I second that. In fact, I wouldn't have minded seeing Kasich trying for the top of the ticket.

[skywalker5291]

This should read Santorum drops out in return for large pay check. This has the GOP's dirty fingers all over it. Makes no sense for him to drop out and dont give me the family issues crap. His daughter has had this since birth. Santorum dropped out bc he cares about his political career. The GOP was scared of a brokered convention so of course they are going to do everything possible to stop that from happening. Still a chance though bc Ron Paul WILL NOT drop out and I think Newt will see Santorum leaving as a chance for him to surge.

[Humble_Opinion]

Newt has a campaign in name only. All of his advisor's are gone. Also, why do you automatically assume the Republican party is dirty? Sure they probably play little games like this behind closed doors, but it's pretty clear to anyone that Santorum had virtually no chance to pull this out... Romney had nearly triple the delegate count with states like N.Y., N.J., Delaware, N.C., etc. still to vote. He also was running low on cash, and losing his financial backing. Had Newt dropped out a little sooner, then he might have faired a little better... but Romney was going to win this after the last go of primaries. It was just a matter of time...

This election comes down to the states of FL, OH, VA, NC and CO. More than likely the V.P. nominee comes from one of those states. However, this choice won't be made for a while... likely 2 - 3 months at the earliest.

[skywalker5291]

Santorum actually did stand a chance. This whole race is about delegates it always has been bc the race looks like it is going to end up in the convention. Now of course I dont want Santorum to win (he is a right wing nut job) but to say he has no chance is just showing the lack of knowledge of the process.

Even with Santorum gone it may be hard for Romney to reach 1144 delegates needed on the first vote at the convention speaking a lot of "Santorum delegates" HAVE to vote Santorum in the first round of voting. If someone doesnt reach 1144 after that first go round then all hell will break lose down in Tampa. By that point its anyone's race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokered_c ... in_history
Read up on brokered conventions. They normally dont favor the establishment therefore that is why the GOP pushed Santorum out of this race. Romney is their horse and how dare the American people vote otherwise.

[jbock13]

Disagree skywalker. He nearly dropped out after Florida when his daughter was sick. The disease that she has can basically kill her at any time. Imagine running for president and dealing with that.

[skywalker5291]

Disagree skywalker. He nearly dropped out after Florida when his daughter was sick. The disease that she has can basically kill her at any time. Imagine running for president and dealing with that.

I agree its a horrible illness but its not the reason he is gone. He can say that all he wants but the big shots in the GOP have been pushing Paul, Newt, and Santorum out of the race for a while now. They all want Romney and will do anything they can to get Romney. Unfortuantly for them Newt has a very large ego and wont back down without a lot of promises, Paul is fighting for a movement much larger then this election cycle so he is going no where. They finally put enough political pressure on Santorum to get him out. Now we just sit back and wait for them to attack Newt until he leaves (they wont attack Paul bc they would have to mention him to do that)

[4everfsu]

Rick dropped out because he knew he was going to lose Pa. Lose Pa. this time he will not have any shot in 2016. Polls showed momentum on Romney's side in Pa.

[LUminary]

Now of course I dont want Santorum to win (he is a right wing nut job) but to say he has no chance is just showing the lack of knowledge of the process.

Just curious, why do you consider Santorum a "right wing nut job?" Or, further, what is your criteria for membership to that category? I'm curious if I am a right-wing nut job by your standards. Guessing that I am.

[flamehunter]

Now of course I dont want Santorum to win (he is a right wing nut job) but to say he has no chance is just showing the lack of knowledge of the process.

Just curious, why do you consider Santorum a "right wing nut job?" Or, further, what is your criteria for membership to that category? I'm curious if I am a right-wing nut job by your standards. Guessing that I am.

Also, to add to LUminary's question, is the criteria for being a right-wing nut job the same as for being a Libertarian nut job?

[ALUmnus]

These skywalker out-of-breath theories just aren't very good ones. Was Santorum dropping out a surprise to anyone? I just don't see how it's something to hyperventilate about.

[LUconn]

stay in the race until you raise enough money to pay off your campaign debt. That's why everybody seems to drop out "late".

[RubberMallet]

out-of-breath theories...lol stealing that.

[skywalker5291]

Now of course I dont want Santorum to win (he is a right wing nut job) but to say he has no chance is just showing the lack of knowledge of the process.

Just curious, why do you consider Santorum a "right wing nut job?" Or, further, what is your criteria for membership to that category? I'm curious if I am a right-wing nut job by your standards. Guessing that I am.

It just his need to push his religious beliefs into government. He has an unhealthy relationship with war. He seems to almost enjoy it. He believes that the Patriot Act is a good thing. Just a lot of right wing crap I dont believe in at all. And im sure I would be a Libertarian nut job in most of your books but if defending the Constitution without compromise is crazy then I am ashamed to be an American.

I wont go any further into this conversation in order to avoid bad feelings between any one on this board bc i love this board for the sports not the politics. I just have disliked the Republican party since I was old enough to understand it (im 21) and the majority of people my age feel the same way. The Republican party is in for a rude awaking after 2012 when they lose the election (which they will in a landslide) then they will look around and see they are losing the young vote to every other party.

I pray they see the errors in their ways but I doubt they will and I will point and say I told you so as the party slowly collapses around them. The young people are the future of this country and the Republican party refuses to include us. This is very clear when it comes to the Ron Paul Revolution. Regardless of how you feel about Ron Paul you cant not argue that he doesnt bring the youth to the Republican party unlike any person but instead of embracing this movement the GOP has called us crazy and stooped to the level of saying we just care about pot being legal.

[flamehunter]

My point is that the Santorums of the world are just as passionate about their beliefs as you are. They feel they are as justified as you do. Just because you don't necessarily agree with them doesn't make them a nut job. Those labels are the tactics of the left, and sometimes the right, scare people with extreme labels and then let them fight that war and not the real issues. You said you are 21, that explains the passion of your views. Good for you.
ps. given the chance, I would have picked Paul over Santorum also.

[jbock13]

Skywalker, while I share many of your views and frustrations, lay off the Ron Paul koolaid. You love him, and I love him. That doesn't mean the Republicans will lose in a landslide, only because I like Ron Paul. It also doesn't mean that Paul is the next messiah of the nation.

My problem with Santorum is his fiscal irresponsibility. Yes, the social issues were a little irritating, but I also realize that the media was out to attack him and keep him off message, and they succeeded in doing so. You have to keep your campaign on message, and Santorum was never able to accomplish that.

I know, and I admire your principle on not settling for the lesser of two evils. But as much as Ron Paul supporters hate Eric Holder, they'll enable him to continue his dirty work because they didn't get out and vote. I like Mittens no more than anyone else, and that's well documented. But I can at least be confident that Romney will not appoint people like that as Attorney General. We won't have Energy Secretaries who are actively finding ways to ensure that we don't use energy. And that's the difference. By voting my cat for President, we accomplish nothing.

You don't have to like Reagan, but you can admire what he did. He saw the Scranton Rockefeller wing of the Party was calling the shots. He ran on principle, and defeated them, not through a third party, but directly spreading his message throughout the party. He battled his own party, and won. Paul is still a Republican, because he aims to do the same, to save the Republican Party as he said it himself. People who think like you, do not help his cause at all.

I say this with all due respect to you, as someone who agrees with a lot of what you have to say.

[ALUmnus]

I just have disliked the Republican party since I was old enough to understand it (im 21) and the majority of people my age feel the same way.

Not to sound like the old crank, but.... I'm glad the country isn't run by a bunch of 21-year-olds.

[LUconn]

flamefans is like a hilarious time capsule of your 20s. Sometimes I read some of the things I wrote on the firehouse when I was in my early 20s and I was just so stupid.

[RubberMallet]

i remember my political stances in college. so naive many times. sorry you don't understand squat.

is there still access to the firehouse at all?

[LUconn]

http://libertysports.proboards.com/index.cgi

there's really not much non-sports stuff

[RubberMallet]

good stuff.