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Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 2:36 pm
by jcmanson
Since this is all everyone wants to talk about it I think we should too.

There is a rally in DC scheduled.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 3:38 pm
by flamehunter
I hate all the politcal hay some are making of this. You expect it from Sharpton and his ilk, but Obama said if he had a son, he would look just like Trayvon. ??? That is using a tragedy to gain sympathy (and ultimately votes) from the mindless masses. Sickening.

As for the case, I think the killer should spend a very, very long time behind bars - like probably forever.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 4:25 pm
by ALUmnus
Why don't we talk about all the craziness going on in Chicago or Kansas City instead? This is a crime story, hardly should it be national news.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:09 pm
by jbock13
white man shoots black guy = race riot, media upset
any other race shoots any other race = nobody seems to care

I'm still waiting on the media to tell me what the kid was doing there in the first place.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:36 pm
by adam42381
jbock13 wrote:white man shoots black guy = race riot, media upset
any other race shoots any other race = nobody seems to care

I'm still waiting on the media to tell me what the kid was doing there in the first place.
Pretty sure he was visiting his father whose girlfriend lived in the gated community. He walked to a nearby store for a snack. He was on his way home when it started raining so he put on his hoodie.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:39 pm
by ballah09
i'm sorry jbrock but that post was idiotic.

1. He was there buying a drink and his little bro skittles.

2. It does happen all over the country. Black man kills white man. Hispanic kills Black, etc... Difference is the dude killed an harmless and innocent kid and is roaming free. If a Black guy killed a harmless and innocent white/asian/hispanic kid walking home from the library and is free, from the using "self-defense" excuse it would be over the media.


as for the killer. he should rot in jail.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:49 pm
by Purple Haize
I thought the guy that shot him was Hispanic?

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:53 pm
by adam42381
Purple Haize wrote:I thought the guy that shot him was Hispanic?
He is.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:58 pm
by jbock13
Thank you for letting me know the facts regarding the case. In in that case, the guy should be arrested. I was only asking, so I don't apprechiate folks jumping to conclusions based on my comments about the media. They are the truth anyway.

Ballah wrote: "If a Black guy killed a harmless and innocent white/asian/hispanic kid walking home from the library and is free, from the using "self-defense" excuse it would be over the media."

Got an example of that? Take a look at this story. An innocent white kid was doused with gasoline, but the media didn't exactly seem to care. http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03 ... tv-station

Here's the best part: "They rushed him on the porch as he tried to get the door open," Coon told KMBC. "(One of them) poured the gasoline, then flicked the Bic, and said, 'This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy.'"

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 6:12 pm
by Purple Haize
adam42381 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:I thought the guy that shot him was Hispanic?
He is.
So how did this become a White/Black thing?

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 12:11 am
by NotAJerry
Purple Haize wrote:
adam42381 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:I thought the guy that shot him was Hispanic?
He is.
So how did this become a White/Black thing?
JBock is too lazy to read.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 12:13 am
by jbock13
If only you were a history major you'd understand. I only read when I absolutely have to!

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 9:38 am
by thepostman
I read 1 article and knew the neighborhood watch guy was Hispanic and the kid was visiting his dad.

I would run too if some weirdo was following me around. You have to admit jbock you came off pretty bad with your original post

EDIT:

I would like to add the normal cronnies coming out trying to make this into some racial injustice is simply distasteful to me and doesn't do the victim any good. The man who shot the kid needs to be punished, plain and simple. Making this into a race issue is ridiculous

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 10:26 am
by jbock13
But that was my point, I was slamming the fools who made it a racial issue in the first place.

I get people hate me not for what I say, but how I say it. Fair enough.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 10:45 am
by Purple Haize
jbock13 wrote:But that was my point, I was slamming the fools who made it a racial issue in the first place.

I get people hate me not for what I say, but how I say it. Fair enough.
No. There are a whole lot of reasons people hate you! :)

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 11:42 am
by thepostman
jbock13 wrote:But that was my point, I was slamming the fools who made it a racial issue in the first place.

I get people hate me not for what I say, but how I say it. Fair enough.
You were assuming things which is something you do a lot

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 11:55 am
by Purple Haize
Apparently the police have an eyewitness saying it WAS self defense.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 12:31 pm
by jbock13
Purple Haize wrote:Apparently the police have an eyewitness saying it WAS self defense.
See there's gotta be something to this story that the media isn't telling. That's my point.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 1:23 pm
by thepostman
jbock13 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:Apparently the police have an eyewitness saying it WAS self defense.
See there's gotta be something to this story that the media isn't telling. That's my point.
whatever man..you just said whatever came to your head first without thinking about it. You are too ridiculous to admit you shouldn't chose different words.

He was a 17 year old kid...unless he had a weapon of some kind shooting him is completely unacceptable to me. Especially since he was told not to chase after him. I am sure the kid was probably running his mouth and its pretty factually proven the kid wasn't a saint, but shooting him?? Come on man...

The race thing is ridiculous. I do agree with that but ignore the media's angle on this story and just look at the facts that have been presented and it is pretty easy to see the man over reacted.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 1:28 pm
by jbock13
wow. really.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 1:30 pm
by thepostman
nice response, typical though

Its funny because I think there are a lot of areas in this we agree about. I just don't think you went about expressing yourself in a way that is ever constructive. Thats all

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 2:39 pm
by Purple Haize
I know a lot of 17 yo who could give men a run for my money. If some kid starts trying to beat me. With his fists and I have a gun, I'd use it. Never bring a knife to a gun fight.
According to the story Martin was on top of the guy gaining him a beat down. Also, according to the eye witness the screams from the 911 call were coming from the guy getting beat up NOT Martin.

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 2:43 pm
by jbock13
for the record, I've never said that the guy should have been shot. I have even said if the facts are what they claim to be, then yes he should be put in jail. But if the police seem to be agreeing it was self-defense, there's something to this story that isn't being told.

Good Lord. If you're going to get upset over that, then I can't help you.

(that was not directed at any individual member)

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 4:02 pm
by thepostman
jbock13 wrote:for the record, I've never said that the guy should have been shot. I have even said if the facts are what they claim to be, then yes he should be put in jail. But if the police seem to be agreeing it was self-defense, there's something to this story that isn't being told.

Good Lord. If you're going to get upset over that, then I can't help you.

(that was not directed at any individual member)
It was your initial post that was out of line. I agree with everything you said in this post

Re: Trayvon Martin

Posted: March 24th, 2012, 5:26 pm
by 4everfsu
As Paul Harvey used to say and here is the rest of the story. I wonder what the Rev Al and Jesse are going to do now.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/s ... n-03232012