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Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 8:26 am
by From the class of 09
So anybody understand what these guys are trying to prove/achieve? I don't get it but it's starting to spread kinda like hippies

Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 8:28 am
by thepostman
Seems to be a socialist type movement to me, but I am not completely sure. They are doing it in Tampa today and "anonymous" claims if the Tampa police become violent they will bring the whole dept. to its knees...
I guess instead of looking for work the unemployed would rather yell about how the government should be giving THEM money
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 8:35 am
by From the class of 09
Yeah a lot of the articles I've read say they are protesting the economy. How do you protest the economy?
We've already seen what happens when you have unpaid benefits for too long you turn into Greece.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 8:51 am
by jbock13
Hmm... I wonder what political party these fine outstanding people vote for

Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 9:11 am
by From the class of 09
jbock13 wrote:Hmm... I wonder what political party these fine outstanding people vote for 
I don't think that's really the point. From what I can tell these guys are mad at Reps and Dems. Part of their virus has spread to K street too. I'm sure some of them are Democrats so if that makes you feel better than you're in luck.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 9:15 am
by thepostman
I think they are angry at the same thing we all are angry at, but their conclusions on how to solve it are so vastly different then anything I want to see happen.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 9:17 am
by Cider Jim
My brother is a proud member of the 99%. He said it's much more economical that political. They are mad at the whole "rich get richer" while the "poor get poorer." It's about our country's unemployment, underemployment, and the massive student loans that are coming due after college, especially if people have no jobs.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 9:26 am
by Sly Fox
Yeah, I have been watching this with a cynical eye but what CJ wrote fits in with everything I have heard from these folks. Frankly they don't seem to have anybody speaking centrally from the movement but they do have a bunch of profs trying to explain tot he rest of us why we don't get this movement.
Right now it just looks like a fun way to feel like they are part of something ... what the something is remains rather irrelevant. They just are having a blast.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 9:34 am
by Cider Jim
And it's not just a 20- or 30-something movement. My brother is in his 40s and has an English degree from Cal-Berkeley, and his last 2 jobs have been selling paint at Wal-Mart and Lowes.
And these guys are ever older:
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 9:37 am
by From the class of 09
So the end game is a revolution? cue Tracy Chapman
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 11:08 am
by From the class of 09
"We are the 99 percent, you know, and it's not fair that people don't have to pay taxes, that corporations don't have to pay taxes and like we do," Helen Curran, a student at Pace University, told WCBS-TV. "It's like my mom pays more taxes than like Walmart does."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/ ... 6589.shtml
Just an FYI man Walmart's taxes paid looked like this most recently in 2009
U.S. federal: $5.3 billion
U.S. state and local: $677 million
International: $1.1 billion
Also love that it's some student complaining while he most likely is part of the 47% of tax filers who don't pay any income taxes. Where's his mom that he's talking about? Probably at work so she can provide for her concerned son's needs.

Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 11:23 am
by LUconn
It's just anti-capitalists.
With what I've learned about college students since the time I have graduated from being one, I wonder why anybody takes them seriously.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 11:26 am
by LUconn
From the class of 09 wrote:"We are the 99 percent, you know, and it's not fair that people don't have to pay taxes, that corporations don't have to pay taxes and like we do," Helen Curran, a student at Pace University, told WCBS-TV. "It's like my mom pays more taxes than like Walmart does."
Even if this were true, who do you think would pay for Walmart's corporate taxes genius? They would reduce the CEO's salary to pay the extra taxes right!?! Apparently they don't teach even the most basic of business at Pace University.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 12:37 pm
by ALUmnus
How would increasing taxes on big businesses and rich people lead to the 99% getting jobs? Some of them may actually believe that, but the others don't want a job, they just want their welfare made permanent. Which would make their demand completely understandable.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 12:44 pm
by From the class of 09
Cartman had a solution for hippies...just saying

Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 1:18 pm
by jbock13
Well, considering that the Communist Party USA is largely behind this, and they always endorse democrats in political elections, I'm just saying....
This country is screwed. I can't say what I really think of these scum, let's just say I hope they go away. And by that, I mean force. If you're gonna come disrupt our nation and break and trash things, and better yet, refuse to take a shower at least one a day, then yeah, sorry if somebody shows up and blasts you away.
I've seen this in 3rd world countries. You can call me crazy all you want, but this country is on the brink. Look at England.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 1:20 pm
by jbock13
ALUmnus wrote:How would increasing taxes on big businesses and rich people lead to the 99% getting jobs? Some of them may actually believe that, but the others don't want a job, they just want their welfare made permanent. Which would make their demand completely understandable.
+1. They complain about the rich not paying taxes, but I would be very interested to see how many of these people even pay any taxes.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 1:38 pm
by RubberMallet
is there where we start hearing about GE not paying any federal taxes this year?
this is basically protesters who don't understand tax codes and have nothing else better to do. at least they are outside and getting exercise, i'm sure their mothers are happy.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 2:04 pm
by From the class of 09
Ok from one of my sources @themotleyfool the problem is just corporate america (props to CJ)
Among other things they are upset about student loans being so high (cuz education itself is a human right now (i didn't know that (learn something new everyday (thats4)))), mortage crisis (banks forclosing unfairly on homeowners), Goldman Sachs in general (specifically bailout then bonuses, didn't mention that bailout loan was repayed with interest), and that companies don't like unions (I guess they are suposed to be in favor of them).
Best tweet to date about #OccupyWallStreet "What do we want? 500 different things! When do we want it? Nowish!"
Can we send these people to Greece? We can make a deal with Greece, "listen we'll bail you out one last time but you have to take these people and never let them leave"
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 2:12 pm
by 4everfsu
jbock13 wrote:Well, considering that the Communist Party USA is largely behind this, and they always endorse democrats in political elections, I'm just saying....
This country is screwed. I can't say what I really think of these scum, let's just say I hope they go away. And by that, I mean force. If you're gonna come disrupt our nation and break and trash things, and better yet, refuse to take a shower at least one a day, then yeah, sorry if somebody shows up and blasts you away.
I've seen this in 3rd world countries. You can call me crazy all you want, but this country is on the brink. Look at England.
Only difference here is homeowner and store owners are carrying heat. Not like in Ole Merry England.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 5:12 pm
by From the class of 09
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 8:27 pm
by jack_sparrow81
Yeah they were at Sarasota today and planning on Bradenton on Sunday. I found ironic that hollywoodpeople people like Alec Baldwin are supporting this. Wasn't he just doing commercials for capital 1?
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 6th, 2011, 8:51 pm
by jbock13
jack_sparrow81 wrote:Yeah they were at Sarasota today and planning on Bradenton on Sunday. I found ironic that hollywoodpeople people like Alec Baldwin are supporting this. Wasn't he just doing commercials for capital 1?
You aren't daring to call liberals hypocrites are you?
I kid. Of course they are.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 7th, 2011, 8:25 am
by From the class of 09
jbock13 wrote:
You aren't daring to call liberals hypocrites are you?
I kid. Of course they are.
Yeah cuz we all know the country would be fine if we could just get the republicans into power.
Re: Occupy Wall Street
Posted: October 7th, 2011, 9:23 am
by jbock13
From the class of 09 wrote:jbock13 wrote:
You aren't daring to call liberals hypocrites are you?
I kid. Of course they are.
Yeah cuz we all know the country would be fine if we could just get the republicans into power.
Did I say that? Nope. Where did I say that? I simply said liberals lie.
Having said that 09, if the answer isn't cleaning up the Republican party, what is your solution to the problem?