A Sea Of Red

Jobs formally unveiled it today. Nothing to blow anyone out of the water in comparison to other new products but it clearly raises the bar for everyone ...

L.A. Times wrote:Steve Jobs unveils iPhone 4 — and its video calling feature
Apple's new phone has two cameras, one of which can take HD video, and a higher-resolution display. 'I grew up with "The Jetsons" and "Star Trek," just dreaming about video calls," Jobs says.

By David Sarno, Los Angeles Times
June 8, 2010

Reporting from San Francisco —
Seeking to keep its edge in the smart phone market in the face of new competition, Apple Inc. on Monday unveiled its latest iPhone, equipped with mini cameras on front and back to allow for video calls.

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no flash yet? no direct downloading from websites beyond photos? no thanks...my 3g is on the market or becoming an ipod.

no flash yet? I think it's safe to say there will never ever be flash. Seems like the camera is pretty neat. All the other features I think I've seen on other phones

LUconn wrote:no flash yet? I think it's safe to say there will never ever be flash. Seems like the camera is pretty neat. All the other features I think I've seen on other phones

i know i just like to keep asking...not being able to watch hulu is awesome.

there's probably a hulu app.

or there is probably not.

RubberMallet wrote:no flash yet? no direct downloading from websites beyond photos? no thanks...my 3g is on the market or becoming an ipod.

I think they're banking on html5 being here sooner rather than later.

I saw a quote the other day that really summed up the debate for me, that html5 is the internet, its not something extra you have to download in order to use. And with all the touch stuff Apple is shooting out (the obvious, ipad, iphone, itouch, but also new products being developed like the touchpad, in essence replacing the mouse on a desktop) you understand his point about how flash doesnt work with touch products.

yes, html5 is the future. however, that doesn't work very well when you live in the present...

rueful wrote:I saw a quote the other day that really summed up the debate for me, that html5 is the internet, its not something extra you have to download in order to use. And with all the touch stuff Apple is shooting out (the obvious, ipad, iphone, itouch, but also new products being developed like the touchpad, in essence replacing the mouse on a desktop) you understand his point about how flash doesnt work with touch products.

i've said it here before....sony's new dvd players now have the ability to stream netflix (the future of television/movies i believe) but they are still making dvd players....because people still need dvd players...

its apparent the iphone doesn't need to have it to be a top selling phone but it still sucks that it doesn't.

my daughter likes that she can make ice cream sundaes on it and my other daughter thinks my bacon fart app is awesome.

LUconn wrote:there's probably a hulu app.

RubberMallet wrote:or there is probably not.

http://bit.ly/9O8gYK

El Scorcho wrote:

LUconn wrote:there's probably a hulu app.

RubberMallet wrote:or there is probably not.

http://bit.ly/9O8gYK

The "seems to be a feeling of inevitability" gives me the shivers. lame.

Anyone get one today? I have a friend who has bought every generation and he says it's better than ever (for the 12-14hrs he's had it lol)

3 guys in our office upgraded...

Anybody having these reception issues....click on the article link and see Steve Jobs recommendation

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/appl ... olding-th/

So, we just spoke with Apple and got the straight dirt on the reception issues that have been plaguing users today... and it's a little surprising. In essence, Apple cops to the fact there are reception issues with the new iPhone -- namely, that if you cover the bottom-left corner of the phone and bridge the gap between the notch there with your naked flesh, you could see some signal degradation. Yes, you read that right: it's not a software or production issue, simply a matter of the physical location of your hand in regards to the phone's antenna. The company's suggested fix? Move your hand position, or get a case which covers that part of the phone, thus breaking contact. As you can see in the email above which just arrived in our tip box, this is a sentiment which runs pretty high at the company. Here's the official statement:

So in essence, if you are rocking an iPhone 4 you can only use your right hand.

So who believes anything Apple spouts these days?

Wall Street Journal wrote:JULY 2, 2010, 10:10 A.M. ET
UPDATE: Apple Admits To Inflating Signal Strength In IPhones

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Apple Inc. (AAPL) admitted Friday that all of its iPhones mistakenly over-inflate their signal strength as criticism mounts over the effectiveness of the wraparound antenna design of the iPhone 4.

The Cupertino, Calif., company said that since the original iPhone, it has used an incorrect method to determine the number of bars to display on the device. In several instances, the iPhone would display two more bars than it should, providing an overly rosy indication of its cellular reception.

Apple said it would issue a software update "within a few weeks" to fix the problem for every model but the original iPhone.

"Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong," Apple said in a letter.

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Wall Street Journal wrote:JULY 2, 2010, 10:10 A.M. ET
UPDATE: Apple Admits To Inflating Signal Strength In IPhones

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Apple Inc. (AAPL) admitted Friday that all of its iPhones mistakenly over-inflate their signal strength as criticism mounts over the effectiveness of the wraparound antenna design of the iPhone 4."Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong," Apple said in a letter.

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I'm sure they were. Like the guy the other nite that was STUNNED by that 8-ball I found under his seat. Oh, and the blunt I found in the back.

everybody "stunned"

I can say, after visiting the Apple Store in Durham tonight, that the reception issue is very real. It's very specific, but very real.

It wouldn't be an issue for me personally, except when I hold it in my left hand to do something other than talk on the phone. I do believe that it's a hardware issue caused (at least partially) by the body's conductivity bridging the two steel antennas. It kills the GSM reception pretty quickly, and actually boosts the WiFi/Bluetooth reception.

Having said that, I just read a fresh report that indicates it may be a manufacturing issue with a coating process on the steel bands that is being inconsistently applied. It seems like a large percentage of phones are affected, but not all. That would be consistent with the kinds of responses to the problem I've seen online.

I don't like how Apple initially handled this situation, but they've still got time to get it right. They need to move quickly, though. They're already having major supply issues with this model, though, so it's not going to surprise me if they don't want to pull units back in. The phone would become impossible to get for the foreseeable future if a recall happens.

I picked up my iphone 4 yesterday finally. Nothing happens for me when I touch "the spot" and I spent like an hour yesterday watching 2012 trying to make it drop its signal.

rueful wrote:I picked up my iphone 4 yesterday finally. Nothing happens for me when I touch "the spot" and I spent like an hour yesterday watching 2012 trying to make it drop its signal.

You need to completely cover it and hold it there for around a minute to see the signal drop off.