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#307166
I just want to hear some of your thoughts on the whole thing.

My thoughts;

1. I graduated in '10 (well Fall '09 actually, a semester early) with a Bachelor Degrees in Politics and Policy and Pre-Law and am a Constitutional Conservative with a heavy dose of Libertarian/State Rights mixed in. I was ok with LU wanting to help students register to vote during the '08 elections (I already was and still am registered in NoVA), but I did not like how it was done. Often, LU took up academic time, sometimes up to 20 min of registration drivel, at the beginning of class, to push the effort. I started showing up to class 10min late because of it, and my professors didn't care. Most of my professors were annoyed at having to do it, because it was a poor use of our tuition dollars taking up their and our class time with a voter registration effort that should have been restricted to a table in the Courtyard. I hear it was much the same this time around from my friends that are still in school.

2. Also, taking up Convo time with the same nonsense, was also just as insulting. Class and Convo. Two places where you have to listen, even if you don't want to.

3. As I've said before, the majority of Liberty students have no long term vested interest in this area.

4. National elections are viewed as more glamorous and more impactful than local elections.

5. Many LU students, I believe, have felt used by the university for political purposes on multiple issues over the last few years and therefore will not vote in any election other than a national one where there is something more at stake.

6. The more pro-Liberty canidates ran terrible campaigns. Seriously, they blew it because they were overconfident that the LU/TRBC vote would carry them, and did little to inspire confidence in LU/TRBC people to turn out. And they certaintly did little to garner votes from elsewhere.

It's not that I don't believe in what LU is trying to do. I think it is an awesome vision, which I hope to see realized some day. But imploring students (some who are extremely impressionable) to help Liberty by voting a certain way, as a way to get there, is not the way to do it.

Seriously though. What do other people think about it all?
Last edited by WinterIsComing on May 5th, 2010, 11:16 am, edited 2 times in total.
#307172
Schfourteenteen wrote:I think half of the members here are employed by Liberty in some shape or form. They also have no opinion on the matter.
I'm sure they don't...but if they did, I still would love to know. It really is such a PC world out there, no matter where one is coming from. Gotta say I hate on contract clauses, even if voluntarily signed, that limit freedom of speech in any form.
#307174
WinterIsComing wrote:But imploring students (some who are extremely impressionable) to help Liberty by voting a certain way, as a way to get there, is not the way to do it.
I agree with you on all points except that you say the students “are extremely impressionable” I mean they basically just told the administration that they don’t give a **** about the election as the LU voting turnout was not what was expected.

Sure there are a number of students that follow the talking heads (for them the LU administration), but how is this any different than the general population (ex. Election of Obama)? It’s not like the administration took a liberal crowd and turned it conservative…that’s what these kids are to start with.

But I do feel that the LU administration has handled most of the recent political events rather poorly and has done nothing to further their cause. Its obvious now, who came out on top from the secret recording and N&A Opinion Letters between Jr. and Schewel.
#307185
Schfourteenteen wrote:I think half of the members here are employed by Liberty in some shape or form. They also have no opinion on the matter.
I think this is also why the Caner thread died so quickly, even though that whole thing has the potential to pick up a lot of steam.

As for the elections, generally people don't care all that much about city council, especially when they have no clue what's going on. You think people took advantage of the free bus service for the day to go and vote?
By ATrain
Registration Days Posts
#307186
Don't live in Lynchburg, and if I still did I wouldn't vote there. I wouldn't mind seeing a city council that's for the removal of the CUP on LU, but other than that I really don't care. If I still lived in Lynchburg and happened to move my vote to the city, then I might care, but chances are if I still lived in LBurg I'd probably be voting back home close to Farmville.
#307187
I can't comment on the whole thing but I did find this quote interesting:
For freshman Shayna Kendle, of Miami, the decision to vote Republican was made almost exclusively on social values.
“I’m a Republican. They share my values on marriage and abortion,” she said of Cary, Good and Hannon.
What the heck does abortion and marriage have to do with a city councilman?

Also, it's somewhat interesting that the Liberty student who ran for city council is the reason that another one of the republicans didn't win.
#307190
SuperJon wrote:I can't comment on the whole thing but I did find this quote interesting:
For freshman Shayna Kendle, of Miami, the decision to vote Republican was made almost exclusively on social values.
“I’m a Republican. They share my values on marriage and abortion,” she said of Cary, Good and Hannon.
What the heck does abortion and marriage have to do with a city councilman?
Exactly. Those issues have no bearing in an election like this.
By LUconn
Registration Days Posts
#307193
WinterIsComing wrote: 3. As I've said before, the majority of Liberty students have no long term vested interest in this area.
Every single person that earn a diploma from Liberty has a long term vested interest, not in the area, but in LU's success. A portion of that is somewhat controlled or at least slowed down by city counsel.
#307232
the response from that student is disturbing. if the school wants the students to vote at least fully educate them. social issues have ZERO to do with council elections. those types of responses make LU students look foolish IMO.
#307259
adam42381 wrote:
SuperJon wrote:I can't comment on the whole thing but I did find this quote interesting:
For freshman Shayna Kendle, of Miami, the decision to vote Republican was made almost exclusively on social values.
“I’m a Republican. They share my values on marriage and abortion,” she said of Cary, Good and Hannon.
What the heck does abortion and marriage have to do with a city councilman?
Exactly. Those issues have no bearing in an election like this.
You guys are missing the obvious.

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