A Sea Of Red

So says the Obama administration, according to the article.

Feds push for tracking cell phones

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In that case, the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

awesome

I really do enjoy my lack of reasonable expectation of privacy. It's so enjoyable.

Well does that mean no more abortions, since Roe v. Wade was based on an issue of privacy?

Or sodomy laws, right? So at last we learn that privacy is not a right....right?

ALUmnus wrote:Or sodomy laws, right? So at last we learn that privacy is not a right....right?

wow....freaky deaky in the K household apparently.

RubberMallet wrote:

ALUmnus wrote:Or sodomy laws, right? So at last we learn that privacy is not a right....right?

wow....freaky deaky in the K household apparently.

Hey, what ALUmnus and his wife do in their bedroom is their business...and the government's according to Obama

well. this has taken an interesting turn.

I remarked to friends on our way to lunch yesterday that this is just a further expansion of the warrantless wiretaps and Patriot Act type of law enforcement that became acceptable under Bush. The GOP didn't care then. Why care now?

El Scorcho wrote:I remarked to friends on our way to lunch yesterday that this is just a further expansion of the warrantless wiretaps and Patriot Act type of law enforcement that became acceptable under Bush. The GOP didn't care then. Why care now?

I knew this would bring you outta the woodwork.

Surprised it took ya so long.

I still love ya, tho

El Scorcho wrote:I remarked to friends on our way to lunch yesterday that this is just a further expansion of the warrantless wiretaps and Patriot Act type of law enforcement that became acceptable under Bush. The GOP didn't care then. Why care now?

I haven't read everything out there, but I don't think the GOP is expressing outrage at this, I think people are just pointing out the blatent hypocrisy of Obama and the media.

In all seriousness I don't see how this would be illegal, but SCOTUS would have to take it on to throw it out. And they've already decided that the police can use tracking monitors on people/cars without a warrant as they could already trail someone without a warrant. This is of a similar nature. This isn't really gonna help anybody do anything though as dumb criminals will eventually catch on to what a smart criminal already does, use a prepaid cellphone from walmart and throw it out.

As far as law enforcement goes, federal law is basically a minimum standard- states can write more restrictive legislation, and PA does.

we are one of the most heavily restricted when it comes to wiretapping rules: to the point where it is VERY rare for us to seek a warrant to do so.

any new laws would likely be superceded by ones already on the books here in PA- so SCORCHO is safe to carry on his subversion and small-bidniz efforts, at least, up here.

PAmedic wrote:As far as law enforcement goes, federal law is basically a minimum standard- states can write more restrictive legislation, and PA does.

we are one of the most heavily restricted when it comes to wiretapping rules: to the point where it is VERY rare for us to seek a warrant to do so.

any new laws would likely be superceded by ones already on the books here in PA- so SCORCHO is safe to carry on his subversion and small-bidniz efforts, at least, up here.

I'm not worried about the locals.

El Scorcho wrote:

PAmedic wrote:As far as law enforcement goes, federal law is basically a minimum standard- states can write more restrictive legislation, and PA does.

we are one of the most heavily restricted when it comes to wiretapping rules: to the point where it is VERY rare for us to seek a warrant to do so.

any new laws would likely be superceded by ones already on the books here in PA- so SCORCHO is safe to carry on his subversion and small-bidniz efforts, at least, up here.

I'm not worried about the locals.

Uh oh, sounds like a plan's afoot.