A Sea Of Red

Well, it's here. Google's very own self-branded Android phone. The Engadget review is posted and I'm sure others are about to roll in. They say they'd still prefer the Motorola Droid, but give it high marks all the same...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/

The point they raise that I am most curious about is the one they make near the end regarding competition and Microsoft. Microsoft has always avoided competing directly with their Windows Mobile hardware partners. Google is not going to follow suit, it seems. Risky. Especially when one of their big partners is actually manufacturing their house-brand handset.

I think Google's success lies in the Android platform as a whole anyway, but this probably won't hurt if they can keep the hype machine up for it through the end of CES and beyond.

$180 on contract with T-Mobile? No thanks, T-Mobile is horrible.

I was thrilled to see that most of the reviews didn't say this phone had some major step forward from my Droid. I was on the verge of some serious buyer's remorse. Instead I remain extremely pleased with my purchase.

flamesbball84 wrote:$180 on contract with T-Mobile? No thanks, T-Mobile is horrible.

Uh, not really. In Lynchburg, they're okay. Better than AT&T but not great. They have the BEST customer service ever, though. So for people who live in good T-Mobile coverage, that's not so bad.

The fact that they're also selling it unlocked for full price out of the gate is a big deal, though. No carrier exclusivity for anyone in any country. Anyone can buy this phone and use it on any GSM network. In the world outside of the US, that means you can use it on any carrier. In the US it means you can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T.

Sly Fox wrote:I was thrilled to see that most of the reviews didn't say this phone had some major step forward from my Droid. I was on the verge of some serious buyer's remorse. Instead I remain extremely pleased with my purchase.

You definitely got the better screen of the two. Engadget's bit about using the Nexus One in sunlight made me cringe a little. I haven't experienced that in a couple of years.

El Scorcho wrote:

flamesbball84 wrote:$180 on contract with T-Mobile? No thanks, T-Mobile is horrible.

Uh, not really. In Lynchburg, they're okay. Better than AT&T but not great. They have the BEST customer service ever, though. So for people who live in good T-Mobile coverage, that's not so bad.

The fact that they're also selling it unlocked for full price out of the gate is a big deal, though. No carrier exclusivity for anyone in any country. Anyone can buy this phone and use it on any GSM network. In the world outside of the US, that means you can use it on any carrier. In the US it means you can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T.

I'm in Lynchburg, they suck.

El Scorcho wrote:

flamesbball84 wrote:$180 on contract with T-Mobile? No thanks, T-Mobile is horrible.

Uh, not really. In Lynchburg, they're okay. Better than AT&T but not great. They have the BEST customer service ever, though. So for people who live in good T-Mobile coverage, that's not so bad.

The fact that they're also selling it unlocked for full price out of the gate is a big deal, though. No carrier exclusivity for anyone in any country. Anyone can buy this phone and use it on any GSM network. In the world outside of the US, that means you can use it on any carrier. In the US it means you can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T.

That is nice, but it costs too much and its not like you'll be getting cheaper service plans like you do in Europe that will justify dropping that much cash on a phone.

If your not willing to pay $180 for a phone now a days when they first come out you'll be rocking a Star-tak the rest of your life....any good BB is $199 and other new (good) smart phones are the same

If you're gonna get buyers remorse on account of the possibility of a better phone coming out after the one you bought you will never be able to buy a phone until everybody has just the one government issued phone so we're all equal in a couple of years. You can count on something being better than yours within a month or 2. So if you like your phone, just focus on that.

Not arguing, LUconn. But I waited quite awhile to pull the trigger knowing what many of the manufacturers had coming down the pipeline. Obviously my client wasn't involved in this phone.

I've got the chance to make the move to the Droid in March. I haven't decided yet. It's going to be hard to give up my BB.

Wasn't Nexus One a poster on here? Possibly an El Scorcho pseudonym?

TDDance234 wrote:I've got the chance to make the move to the Droid in March. I haven't decided yet. It's going to be hard to give up my BB.

I thought the same thing before I made the move.

LUconn wrote:If you're gonna get buyers remorse on account of the possibility of a better phone coming out after the one you bought you will never be able to buy a phone until everybody has just the one government issued phone so we're all equal in a couple of years. You can count on something being better than yours within a month or 2. So if you like your phone, just focus on that.

I'm still pretty happy with my RAZR. Just ordered a new battery for it.

it's so thin!

Hold My Own wrote:If your not willing to pay $180 for a phone now a days when they first come out you'll be rocking a Star-tak the rest of your life....any good BB is $199 and other new (good) smart phones are the same

its Star-tac and it worked fine.

Hold My Own wrote:If your not willing to pay $180 for a phone now a days when they first come out you'll be rocking a Star-tak the rest of your life....any good BB is $199 and other new (good) smart phones are the same

Who says you have to buy a phone when they first come out? That's silly. Check out all these good phones (as determined by CNET Editor reviews) that aren't brand spanking new, and check out those prices. WHy fork over $180 when you can wait as little as 2-6 months to get several of them for under $100?

Blackberry Bold 9700 on AT&T $99.99 - released last 2009

Blackberry Tour 9630 from sprint, $149.99 - released mid 2009

Blackberry Curve 8900 from T-Mobile $99.99 - released early 2009

Blackberry Curve 8530 from sprint, $49.99 - released mid 2009
Blackberry Curve 8520 from T-Mobile $129.99, AT&T $49.99

Blackberry Curve 8330 from sprint, $49.99 - released mid 2007
Blackberry Curve 8310 on AT&T $49.99
Blackberry Curve 8320 on AT&T $74.99

Palm Pre from sprint, $49.99 - released late 2009

T-Mobile Dash 3G free -
T-Mobile Sidekick LX $99.99 - released late 2007
T-Mobile MyTouch 3G $149.99 - released mid 2009

DROID ERIS by HTC on Verizon $99.99 - released late 2009

flamesbball84 wrote:

El Scorcho wrote:

flamesbball84 wrote:$180 on contract with T-Mobile? No thanks, T-Mobile is horrible.

Uh, not really. In Lynchburg, they're okay. Better than AT&T but not great. They have the BEST customer service ever, though. So for people who live in good T-Mobile coverage, that's not so bad.

The fact that they're also selling it unlocked for full price out of the gate is a big deal, though. No carrier exclusivity for anyone in any country. Anyone can buy this phone and use it on any GSM network. In the world outside of the US, that means you can use it on any carrier. In the US it means you can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T.

I'm in Lynchburg, they suck.

Their coverage here mirrors AT&T's exactly. Yup. It kinda does.

El Scorcho wrote:

flamesbball84 wrote:

El Scorcho wrote:
Uh, not really. In Lynchburg, they're okay. Better than AT&T but not great. They have the BEST customer service ever, though. So for people who live in good T-Mobile coverage, that's not so bad.

The fact that they're also selling it unlocked for full price out of the gate is a big deal, though. No carrier exclusivity for anyone in any country. Anyone can buy this phone and use it on any GSM network. In the world outside of the US, that means you can use it on any carrier. In the US it means you can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T.

I'm in Lynchburg, they suck.

Their coverage here mirrors AT&T's exactly. Yup. It kinda does.

and I disagree with the greatness of their customer service. I ordered something from them one time and they charged me for it twice. I was on the phone with them three hours trying to get it fixed because they keep redirecting me to the same morons who didn't know anything. Not until I went to the last resort or screaming at someone on the phone and refused to be redirected back to the customer service main call center did I get anywhere. I refuse to call their customer service ever again. If I get charged twice for something I'm just going to contest one of the charges with my credit card company rather than calling T-Mobile.

Speaking of customer service...

ComputerWorld wrote:Google faces deluge of Nexus One complaints

By Nancy Gohring
January 8, 2010 02:28 PM ET

IDG News Service - Google support forums are awash with people looking for help for problems with their Nexus One phones -- and unable to find it.

The volume of complaints points to a problem that Google faces now that it has decided to try to push a new cell-phone-buying model in the U.S. Since most people buy subsidized phones from a mobile operator, they turn to the operator when they have problems.

But Google is selling the phone directly to end-users. That means many users are turning to it first, and the search giant doesn't have the kind of customer support that mobile-phone users are accustomed to.

Google appears to be only accepting e-mail customer queries, to which it pledges to reply in one to two days -- far too long, say most people who are complaining online.

Many people are also turning to T-Mobile and HTC, but getting little help there. T-Mobile is often referring people back to either Google or HTC for answers to questions. HTC is often referring people back to T-Mobile, according to complaints online.

Yikes. One to two-day email response? Yeah, that's not gonna go well.

I have a Nexus One and love it....and now with the update from Google I have native multitouch!