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Hey look everyone, its Change!..

Posted: December 3rd, 2008, 12:32 pm
by RubberMallet
...oh wait maybe not..

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=338032

Obama’s Cabinet: Full of Bill Clinton’s Rotten Fruit
By W. Michael Kilgore



President-Elect Obama’s Cabinet is quickly filling up with the rotten fruit of Bill Clinton’s days. He hasn’t even taken the oath of office yet and already his songs of “change” are falling on deaf ears – his own. While many more appointments are still to come, evidently his idea of change means to load up his administration with the beltway refuse of Clinton’s Administration.

Rahm Emanuel was one of his first appointments. Typically, a President interested in a “change” from normal partisan politics will appoint a Chief of Staff that is known for reaching across the aisle to friends from both parties. The ideal COS provides access to the President from both parties in order to accomplish more together. Too bad Emanuel couldn’t be worse for the job. This is a man who, when angered by the poll numbers that a pollster sent him, mailed a dead fish to the man in gratitude. A shining example of integrity and trustworthiness himself, Bill Clinton couldn’t even trust the guy. Dick Morris tells us of being chastised by President Clinton when he gave Emanuel some confidential information. Evidently, Clinton knew he couldn’t even trust his own deputy counsel (Emanuel at the time) with the information necessary to effectively run his administration. Morris’ take on Emanuel: Emanuel is out for Emanuel.


Eric Holder, another spoiled fruit of Clinton's days, could prove to be Janet Reno 2.0 if his past record is any indicator. Frankly, his platform is a nightmare to the Constitution. First, he favors hate crime legislation. He literally believes that if someone attacks a homosexual and an old lady, the attacker of the homosexual should be more heavily punished because his so-called “motive” was of “hate for a protected class.” Evidently, Mr. Holder thinks himself worthy to look deep into the souls of every criminal and decipher whether their motive was to inflict hate on that special someone or just to get his or her money. “Dear Ms. Old Lady, you better watch your back because Mr. Attorney General isn’t.”

It gets worse. Remember the Clinton pardons? Holder’s role in granting clemency to 16 former members of the Puerto Rican terrorist group, The Armed Forces of National Liberation (FALN), was even more influential than that of his boss, Janet Reno. Additionally, Marc Rich was a man guilty of tax evasion and illegal trading with Iran. Eric Holder gave a “neutral to favorable” recommendation to Clinton for Rich’s pardon, which was eventually granted. Evidently, Mr. Holder considers it his constitutional duty to grant pardons to international terrorists and criminals. Now Grandma isn’t looking out for just everyday thieves, she has to worry about those big-time criminals Mr. Holder has put back on the street.



Mr. Holder’s love of basic constitutional rights is equal to his regard for the justice system. When the Columbine shootings occurred, he was so scared by the boys’ use of the internet in bomb-making that he attempted to pass legislation that would violate First Amendment speech rights on the internet. The Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial wasn’t any safer. Mr. Holder was instrumental in getting laws changed that made jury trials more difficult for certain defendants.



There you have it: two men on the payroll who already make the cabinet room stink to high heaven. Appointments like this lead me to make a quite startling statement: “Hillary! Save us!” With Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, we can look to her as one of the most conservative appointees of Obama’s pungent cabinet. Yet, choosing a “conservative” out of Obama’s Administration is like deciding whether one would like to (a) be baptized by Rev. Wright or (b) debate politics with Bill Ayers. Despite the pure idiocy of appointing to the highest cabinet position a woman who has eyes for un-seating him in 2012, Obama has thankfully chosen someone slightly stronger than himself on foreign policy. This wouldn’t take much since Obama’s foreign policy qualifications are that he (1) majored in international relations and (2) grew up abroad.



President-Elect Obama has implemented “change” on Washington with the astounding skill and craft of a used car salesman. The combined years spent in Washington of his appointments exceed those of Bush’s appointments. His promises of working against “business as usual” have manifested themselves in the appointment of people who not only worked for Bill Clinton but implemented some of the worst constitutional atrocities our country has ever seen while doing so. This isn’t “change” at all – it is Bill Clinton all over again.

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 2:37 pm
by RubberMallet
sorry you all had to read for a minute....geez

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 3:46 pm
by LUconn
Joke's on you. I only read the title.

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 4:20 pm
by JDUB
i read the first line

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 4:22 pm
by RubberMallet
confession : i skimmed and read the last paragraph...

i remember there being a few obama koolaid drinkers in here and was looking to incite a discussion.

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 4:34 pm
by JDUB
they won't say anything cause they know they are wrong

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 5:11 pm
by ALUmnus
They won't say anything because they already won.

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 5:31 pm
by RubberMallet
i just found it interesting the mayor of changetown has basically brought in those he opposed and claimed were not about change. many of my friends who were obama supporters are flustered about this and wondering whats going on.

i'm not ready to condemn as really they haven't done anything yet, but its taken him less time to start negating his promises than dubya did with ihs "less gvt" spiels..

that and his weekly phone confernce sounds like he gets his answers from a dilbert vision statement generator

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 5:59 pm
by Rocketfan
RubberMallet wrote:i just found it interesting the mayor of changetown has basically brought in those he opposed and claimed were not about change. many of my friends who were obama supporters are flustered about this and wondering whats going on.

i'm not ready to condemn as really they haven't done anything yet, but its taken him less time to start negating his promises than dubya did with ihs "less gvt" spiels..

that and his weekly phone confernce sounds like he gets his answers from a dilbert vision statement generator
I watched a TV interview and Obama said he has been reading a lot of Lincoln. He was of the " keep your friends close but your enemies closer" mentality. Obama wouldn't confirm or deny that stance, but its pretty clear. They can't really blast him much if they accept positions under him....or you wouldn't think at least i guess...

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 6:12 pm
by RubberMallet
Rocketfan wrote:
RubberMallet wrote:i just found it interesting the mayor of changetown has basically brought in those he opposed and claimed were not about change. many of my friends who were obama supporters are flustered about this and wondering whats going on.

i'm not ready to condemn as really they haven't done anything yet, but its taken him less time to start negating his promises than dubya did with ihs "less gvt" spiels..

that and his weekly phone confernce sounds like he gets his answers from a dilbert vision statement generator
I watched a TV interview and Obama said he has been reading a lot of Lincoln. He was of the " keep your friends close but your enemies closer" mentality. Obama wouldn't confirm or deny that stance, but its pretty clear. They can't really blast him much if they accept positions under him....or you wouldn't think at least i guess...
whats funny is that lincoln really wasn't all the great of a president yet is revered as one of our best. kind of ironic.

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 6:35 pm
by Sly Fox
RubberMallet wrote:
Rocketfan wrote:
RubberMallet wrote:i just found it interesting the mayor of changetown has basically brought in those he opposed and claimed were not about change. many of my friends who were obama supporters are flustered about this and wondering whats going on.

i'm not ready to condemn as really they haven't done anything yet, but its taken him less time to start negating his promises than dubya did with ihs "less gvt" spiels..

that and his weekly phone confernce sounds like he gets his answers from a dilbert vision statement generator
I watched a TV interview and Obama said he has been reading a lot of Lincoln. He was of the " keep your friends close but your enemies closer" mentality. Obama wouldn't confirm or deny that stance, but its pretty clear. They can't really blast him much if they accept positions under him....or you wouldn't think at least i guess...
whats funny is that lincoln really wasn't all the great of a president yet is revered as one of our best. kind of ironic.
Not ... taking ... bait.

:P

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 6:37 pm
by RubberMallet
our country has an affinity for glorifying assassinated presidents...i find it quite hilarious.

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 8:12 pm
by RagingTireFire
Rocketfan wrote: I watched a TV interview and Obama said he has been reading a lot of Lincoln. He was of the " keep your friends close but your enemies closer" mentality. ...
Lincoln's cabinet was a case study of dysfunctional organization.

So, good luck with that, Prezzy O.

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 8:14 pm
by whmatthews
Lincoln threw the constitution out the window.

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 8:36 pm
by ATrain
Lincoln was a tyrannical bully.

Posted: December 4th, 2008, 10:01 pm
by Fumblerooskies
whmatthews wrote:Lincoln threw the constitution out the window.
During cases of legit war...the constitution is often tossed.

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 12:04 am
by LUconn
Lincoln smoked you sore losers.

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 12:20 am
by whmatthews
Doesn't mean it should be.... I'm pretty sure we've had a thread on why Lincoln was a bad president before.

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 9:38 am
by Sly Fox
Yes, we have discussed Southern revisionism and the bitterness behind it before.

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 9:44 am
by nickrichards
Hillary Clinton wants our change, too, as first reported by our friends at Fox News

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/electio ... nton-debt/
NEW YORK -- President-elect Barack Obama's vast list of donors is being asked to donate to Hillary Rodham Clinton as she scrambles to reduce her massive campaign debt before she becomes secretary of state and federal ethics rules limit her fundraising, an Obama adviser said Thursday night.

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 9:51 am
by Purple Haize
Lincoln was a complex man. SOME people say that "W" handled the War on Terror the way Lincoln handled the Civil War. McLellan/Rummy Grant/Petreus etc.
But back on topic: The best quote I heard about this cabinet was "When BO said we needed to turn the page we all ASSUMED it would be forward. Instead, he has turned the page alright, but to the last chapter!"
Also, Hillary is now basically going to be in charge of foreign policy. BO can't make a decision so he will talk out of both sides of his mouth. Hilary is great at politics and decisions (even wrong ones) and will be able to box BO in a corner in that regards.
The only thing this cabinet says about BO is that he is not a complete idiot. He KNOWS he is inexperienced (despite the crying to the contrary) and at LEAST is surrounding himself with experienced people. Now if he had done so with a bunch of other inexperienced idealougus, then we would be in a LOT of trouble

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 10:04 am
by Fumblerooskies
Purple Haize wrote:The only thing this cabinet says about BO is that he is not a complete idiot. He KNOWS he is inexperienced (despite the crying to the contrary) and at LEAST is surrounding himself with experienced people.
Excellent point...or great purple one. My interest will be how controlling of BO will his closest advisers be?

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 10:12 am
by RagingTireFire
Sly Fox wrote:Yes, we have discussed Southern revisionism and the bitterness behind it before.
Sly views any view critical of Lincoln to be "Southern revisionism", even when it is presented by non-Southerners.

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 10:35 am
by RubberMallet
yeah i know. i'm not even suthrn. i'm from his great home state....i've fought the bs since i was in high school. i don't even remember the conversation everyone is referring too and i'm not sure i was even involved.

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 10:38 am
by blwall1416
LUconn wrote:Grant/Sherman smoked you outnumbered, sore losers.
FIFY.