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Guns

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 1:41 pm
by LUconn
I'm planning on getting one eventually. Does anybody here know a lot about them. I don't want to hunt. I also don't want to kill my children. Pretty much just for protection, and also I'd probably take it to a shooting range every so often. Shotguns are fun to shoot but that could be not what I'm looking for anyway. I'd imagine they're a lot more expensive than a handgun. That's another factor to consider. I'm not rich. Any ideas/suggestions/anecdotes?

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 1:56 pm
by RubberMallet
just get a pistol. a 9mm or a .45

springfield armory
beretta
sigarms
rueger
glock

all make nice handguns that are affordable...

i have a SA 1911-A1 from springfield and its nice...

make sure you put in in a safe and you hide the key...especially if you have kids...

i just use mine to fire at ranges....i have a louisville slugger thats my home protection...its more fun...

but i would like a desert eagle .50...thats next ont he handgun list

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 1:57 pm
by RubberMallet
look of the size of that beast...

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Posted: June 16th, 2006, 2:47 pm
by LUconn
Glock? Desert Eagle? *Go!Go!Go!*

Are you gonna tell me I'm a cheater because I bought an AWP?

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 2:48 pm
by El Scorcho
Depending on the size of your hand, I'd recommend a .40 S&W over both the 9mm and the .45, but that's just me.

The best thing you can do in Virginia is take the safety courses required for a permit to carry license, and then apply for one. The entire process will give you a lot of respect for what you're purchasing, if you've never really dealt with firearms before. Any NRA program will be well worth your time, as well.

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 3:12 pm
by RubberMallet
haha cs....do you know how long its been since i've played that?

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 3:25 pm
by LUconn
I've only shot a few so I know what it's like but I'd rather be comfortable with one.
a permit to carry license
does that mean I can carry it around with me? that'd be sweet. Is that seperate from a concealed weapon permit? because that would be sweet too.

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 4:26 pm
by PAmedic
don't know how VA works- up here a permit to carry is for concealed weapons ONLY: ie, the weapon MUST be kept concealed when worn.

MrsPA has a little .38 wheelgun and a S&W 9mm. I carry a Kel-Tech 9 (poly-body: SHE hates it, I'm comfortable w/ it and like the compact size. ) I'm in the market for a .40 cal Glock- my brother has one and loves it.

We also keep an assortment of long guns- incl a 30-06, 20 ga and 12 ga shotguns. My 12 is matte black finish w/ plastic stock; very SWAT looking. All are very effective, the 30-06 is for range use only around here; illegal for hunting in the 'burbs.

DEFINITELY recommend a gun locker or two, as well as trigger locks. We're buying another small handgun locker for under the bed that has the palm/finger activation. I do keep rounds chambered, but a lot of people aren't comfortable doing so.

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 4:32 pm
by LUconn
I'm gonna need pictures because your guns sound cool.

Those finger combination gun safes seem like they'd do a pretty good job of keeping them locked up but also being able to get it fast. Would a trigger lock on top of that just slow you down in an emergency?

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 4:36 pm
by PAmedic
I actually use the trigger locks only when the long guns are OUT of the safe: transporting them in the car, etc.

the handguns, I don't bother with trigger locks b/c we have the long cable kind.

I'll get ya some pix.

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 5:00 pm
by El Scorcho
PAmedic wrote:don't know how VA works- up here a permit to carry is for concealed weapons ONLY: ie, the weapon MUST be kept concealed when worn.
The permit here is for concealed carry as well, but I don't know if that means you have to conceal it or not. I currently only have a S&W 9mm. The rest of mine are at my parents' house, because they're completely unncessary in the city.

Posted: June 16th, 2006, 6:58 pm
by Purple Haize
If you are wanting something with stopping power for home defense and are not a good shot, the trusty shotgun is the way to go. Stay away from loading with birdshot. That won't kill the intruder just tick them off!!!!!!!! If you want something a little smaller stay away from the "Sexy" guns. Most of those are only effective if used by someone who shoots a lot. The typical revolver, , will do the trick. When you start getting into the Berretta's Glock etc, it is more of a peeing contest if you dont' use em. I have a shotgun now by MY side of the bed (wife has a can of mace!) I used to have a snub nose revolver when I lived in the windy city that may or may not have had a serial number !!! I don't recommend that. Take the NRA course, it is worth it!
Finally, you know what they say about guys who buy big guns? They are making up for a deficency somewhere else

Posted: June 17th, 2006, 10:15 am
by Sly Fox
It sounds like we need to start an NRA usergroup in this place. :lol:

Seriously, I'm not packing right now in my house. Having little kids makes me squeamish. I've had firearms in the past and will again at some point.

Posted: June 19th, 2006, 9:53 am
by Libertine
If it's just for home defense, I recommend something w/ stopping power and, since you'll probably be too jacked-up to aim properly, a scatter shot. You'll also want limited ammo capacity so you can't keep shooting blindly and, if you live in a neighborhood, something that'll take down what you're aiming at but won't keep going into your neighbor's living room. Thusly, I recommend a two-barrel 20-gauge shotgun.

If you're looking for something just to scare away Jehovah's Witnesses, I say go w/ a .44 anything.

Posted: July 2nd, 2006, 9:17 pm
by PAmedic
It took me a while, but here ya go, as promised:
(BTW- we stagger our loads: hollow point/FMJ/hollow point/FMJ... and the 12 ga currently has #8 shot in it though I also use rifled slugs. The 20 ga is property of MrsPA, along w/ the .38 and the S/W 9)

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Posted: July 2nd, 2006, 9:18 pm
by A.G.
PAMedic--the Offical Medic of the PA Militia!

Posted: July 2nd, 2006, 9:46 pm
by PAmedic
you shoot em' up, I'll patch em' up

Posted: July 3rd, 2006, 7:21 am
by LUconn
you have a lot of guns. Whats with the scope? I'm assuming you hunt? Or maybe you're a mercinary.

Posted: July 3rd, 2006, 7:27 am
by PAmedic
LUconn wrote:you have a lot of guns. Whats with the scope? I'm assuming you hunt? Or maybe you're a mercinary.
I use it to keep an eye on the UPS guy.

I really do.

but, yes- MrsPA has hunted for years. I've gone twice but never see a thing- its been said I'm a bit too loud. :roll:

Posted: July 3rd, 2006, 12:50 pm
by SuperJon
You could've hunted at my apartment complex on Saturday. There was a deer in the field across from the entrance and three deer (one was a good sized buck) walking around at the tennis court.