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Virginia specific talk

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 12:42 pm
by LUconn
I've really never been so disappointed with my state than I was last night. And I grew up in Connecticut. I guess I expect ridiculousness out of them, but not you Virginia. Tim Kaine, Jim Webb, and now Mark Warner and Barack Obama? Is there some way we can purge NOVA to Maryland? It's basically a different state up there anyway.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 12:44 pm
by TDDance234
The Tidewater area (where I grew up...which makes it harder to stomach) really pulled Virginia towards Obama, I believe. While NOVA certainly brought out a ton of voters for Obama, we have the 757 to blame.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 12:52 pm
by Cider Jim
Can someone provide us with a link to MAP that shows the county-by-county voting distribution in Virginia?

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 12:53 pm
by Schfourteenteen

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 12:56 pm
by TDDance234
I stand partly corrected.

Virginia Beach and Chesapeake went McCain but he got clobbered in Norfolk and Newport News.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 1:24 pm
by Ed Dantes
By the way, I am officially announcing my candidacy for the Virginia 2nd District Congressional Seat.

(so... now what? do I need to register with the FEC or something? Does that cost anything?)

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 1:40 pm
by LUconn
I bet it does cost money. That's why Colbert dropped out of the presidential race.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 1:51 pm
by ATrain
Well, I must say I'm not happy that we put Tim Kaine in the governor's mansion 3 years ago, elected Jim Webb over George Allen 2 years ago, that Virgil Goode is in the fight of his life to keep his seat and we went for Obama.

I am happy that Warner won though. Yeah, it moves the Dems towards a filibuster-proof 60, but I think him over Gilmore was the right decision.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 1:58 pm
by MacGeek
ATrain wrote:I am happy that Warner won though. Yeah, it moves the Dems towards a filibuster-proof 60, but I think him over Gilmore was the right decision.
agreed, he is one of the few dems i respect.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 2:06 pm
by Ed Dantes
MacGeek wrote:
ATrain wrote:I am happy that Warner won though. Yeah, it moves the Dems towards a filibuster-proof 60, but I think him over Gilmore was the right decision.
agreed, he is one of the few dems i respect.
The success of the Democrats in the last few election cycles, I think, stems from the fact that they've put some moderate, if not conservative, candidates on the ticket in local elections. They're known as "Blue Dog Democrats", and they're usually pro-life and pro-gun. They'll get the votes from the Democrats because they have a (D) by their name, they get the votes from republicans because of the issues. Nothing wrong with that (except that by being in office, it strengthens the positions of the hardcore liberals like Nancy Pelosi and such). It really was the brainchild of Rep. Rahm Emanuel and Howard Dean. Give credit where credit is due.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 2:54 pm
by TDDance234
Ed Dantes wrote:
MacGeek wrote:
ATrain wrote:I am happy that Warner won though. Yeah, it moves the Dems towards a filibuster-proof 60, but I think him over Gilmore was the right decision.
agreed, he is one of the few dems i respect.
The success of the Democrats in the last few election cycles, I think, stems from the fact that they've put some moderate, if not conservative, candidates on the ticket in local elections. They're known as "Blue Dog Democrats", and they're usually pro-life and pro-gun. They'll get the votes from the Democrats because they have a (D) by their name, they get the votes from republicans because of the issues. Nothing wrong with that (except that by being in office, it strengthens the positions of the hardcore liberals like Nancy Pelosi and such). It really was the brainchild of Rep. Rahm Emanuel and Howard Dean. Give credit where credit is due.
Heath Shuler drops the "Blue Dog Democrat" every chance he gets.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 3:36 pm
by LUconn
So that Perriello vs Goode race is getting crazy. Here's the latest update
Updated 2:26 p.m.

Virgil Goode’s lead shrinks to just six votes, according to the State Board of Election’s website:

Goode - 157,421

Perriello - 157,415
6 votes. A recount would definitely change that margin one way or the other.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 3:41 pm
by Hold My Own
Wow so my vote does matter!

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 3:53 pm
by LUconn
n/m. previous message was deleted and now I look like an idiot.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 4:44 pm
by LUconn
Parriello now up by 30
Updated 3:17 p.m.

Tom Perriello has retaken the lead, according to the State Board of Elections’ website.

As of 3:17 p.m.:

Perriello - 157,455

Goode - 157,425

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 4:47 pm
by Hold My Own
LUconn wrote:n/m. previous message was deleted and now I look like an idiot.



I wanna know what you said!!!

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 4:48 pm
by LUconn
you deleted your post.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 4:54 pm
by ATrain
Eeesh...I had no idea the 5th District had gotten that close.

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 5:24 pm
by Hold My Own
oh haha sorry I started a new thread about it

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 4:09 pm
by LUconn
I wonder how far this state will lean before it's Massachusetts.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15480.html
McAuliffe: The next Virginia governor?


Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe filed papers Monday setting up a campaign committee to explore a possible 2009 run to succeed term-limited Democrat Tim Kaine as governor of Virginia.

McAuliffe, who served as chairman to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential bid, has been rumored to be eyeing a potential run in the state for months. The Democrat campaigned extensively for Barack Obama throughout Virginia and has linked himself to newly elected Democratic Sen. Mark Warner, a popular former governor.
What is going on here?

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 4:25 pm
by Ed Dantes
LUconn wrote:I wonder how far this state will lean before it's Massachusetts.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15480.html
McAuliffe: The next Virginia governor?


Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe filed papers Monday setting up a campaign committee to explore a possible 2009 run to succeed term-limited Democrat Tim Kaine as governor of Virginia.

McAuliffe, who served as chairman to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential bid, has been rumored to be eyeing a potential run in the state for months. The Democrat campaigned extensively for Barack Obama throughout Virginia and has linked himself to newly elected Democratic Sen. Mark Warner, a popular former governor.
What is going on here?
It's simple. Go to this links
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/resul ... t/map.html and under the slider choose '2008 compared to 1992'. Most of Middle America is red, meaning, those parts of the country vote for the Republican (ostensibly the more conservative candidate) now than they did in 1992. If you zoom in to Virginia, you'll see that the western part of the state is more red; the eastern / northern part is blue.

What's going on here? Basically, the parts of the country that lean blue are the parts of the country with a higher population, and also an expanding population. As an example, Washington D.C. is liberal. They are now more liberal than before. People who lived in DC / surrounding area have fled for whatever reason to reddish areas, and they are bringing their liberal orthodoxy with them.