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Presidential Debate '08
Posted: September 26th, 2008, 9:48 pm
by sweetnahmah1
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Posted: September 26th, 2008, 10:29 pm
by Rooster Cogburn
earmarks earmarks
Posted: September 26th, 2008, 11:19 pm
by 01LUGrad
I would have loved to have seen McCain say something like this in his openning statement:
"I encourage all viewers to keep a count of how many times Senator Obama says the words 'George Bush' tonight. My name is John McCain and I make my own decisions. Sometimes they are in line with my party, sometimes they are not. I am a proven leader and I am the most qualified to lead this country."
It would have been fun to see if Obama would have stuck with the plan to bring W's name up every 30 seconds had that taken place.
Posted: September 26th, 2008, 11:27 pm
by Rooster Cogburn
why does Obama talk to us like we are 3 years old
Posted: September 26th, 2008, 11:48 pm
by ATrain
So who won?
Posted: September 27th, 2008, 12:04 am
by Hold My Own
57,000 voted on fox news...yes I know fox news but its 86% to 12% McCain
Obama camp just said "This was a home field for McCain" some say that was a concession
Posted: September 27th, 2008, 8:25 am
by 01LUGrad
I would have liked to have seen McCain look Obama in the eye and be forcefull instead of slouching over the podium. I was grading some tests during the debate and while I was simply listening, McCain seemed to be hammering him, but if I looked at the TV, he seemed uncomfortable.
Sure, it's not all about appearances, but it does make a difference with some voters.
Posted: September 27th, 2008, 8:39 am
by Cider Jim
Does anyone know if LU's former debate coach, Brett O'Donnell, is still on McCain's payroll, coaching him on how to improve his debating skills?
Posted: September 27th, 2008, 10:40 am
by RagingTireFire
Cider Jim wrote:Does anyone know if LU's former debate coach, Brett O'Donnell, is still on McCain's payroll, coaching him on how to improve his debating skills?
According to the Atlanta Constitution, yes.
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/st ... epare.html
Posted: September 27th, 2008, 11:55 am
by Cider Jim
From Rag's article (next to last paragraph):
This year both camps are relying on outside coaches to prepare their man. Obama has Michael Sheehan, who makes a living advising corporate officials on how to talk to television cameras. Sheehan has helped numerous Democrats learn appropriate body language and mannerisms for television. McCain has hired Brett O’Donnell, formerly the debate coach at Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University.
Posted: September 27th, 2008, 2:14 pm
by newandimproved
I didn't really think either of the candidates did much to help their cause in this debate.
Posted: September 27th, 2008, 2:53 pm
by Rocketfan
Drudgereport poll says 68% for Mccain....just 30% for Obama and 2% undecided.
Posted: September 27th, 2008, 5:21 pm
by Sly Fox
I agree that neither man probably swayed the undecided significantly. And I agree that McCain's visuals could've been much better. I am sure that those issues will be addressed moving forward. But his rhetoric was very sharp for a man of his advanced years.
Posted: September 29th, 2008, 9:13 am
by RubberMallet
meanwhile cnn polls had obama winning the debate...heeelarious..polls are worthless
Posted: September 29th, 2008, 9:32 am
by Ed Dantes
I tried to view this as objectively as humanly possible...
I expected Obama to mumble and fumble, but he didn't (except when trying to recall a soldier's name). McCain showed that he is ready to be commander-in-chief on day one with his breadth of knowledge and experience... but ready to lead? He didn't deal any significant blows on a day he should have cleaned up.
If I had to score it, I would say 'tie, which means Obama won because McCain needed a knockout... but then again, the biggest dust-up concerned Henry Kissinger, who later sided with McCain... so a point goes to McCain -- which ultimately means a tie.'
Now the veep debate... that's going to be a fun one.
Posted: September 29th, 2008, 10:35 am
by scuzdriver
It was a tie in my book as well. I don't think JM looked at BO due to the fact he probably hates his guts and wants to beat him to a pulp! It amazes me that these debates actually sway peoples opinion. There isn't any new revelations in them.
Posted: September 29th, 2008, 11:18 am
by RubberMallet
this was a debate that mccain really needed to wipe the floor with obama and he didn't really....i think he won it (the 20 minutes i watched of it anyway, i can't stand being talked down to and i can't bear to watch mccain move his arms like a robot for longer than that) but i dont' think he won it enough so i called it a tie.
Posted: September 29th, 2008, 4:47 pm
by adam42381
It's funny how everybody thinks their guy won. Fox News has McCain winning handily. CNN says Obama won. I caught a little bit of Bill Maher on Friday night and he thinks Obama won by a landslide. Surprising, no. I just wish there was an actual unbiased news source we could trust.
Posted: September 29th, 2008, 5:03 pm
by RubberMallet
adam42381 wrote:It's funny how everybody thinks their guy won. Fox News has McCain winning handily. CNN says Obama won. I caught a little bit of Bill Maher on Friday night and he thinks Obama won by a landslide. Surprising, no. I just wish there was an actual unbiased news source we could trust.
i actually like cnn it leans toward liberalism but isn't horrible and some shows are quite centralized and i like it.
Posted: September 29th, 2008, 5:58 pm
by adam42381
RubberMallet wrote:i actually like cnn it leans toward liberalism but isn't horrible and some shows are quite centralized and i like it.
I actually agree with you for the most part. Some shows actually present both sides of the issue.
Posted: September 29th, 2008, 10:03 pm
by MacGeek
adam42381 wrote:It's funny how everybody thinks their guy won. Fox News has McCain winning handily. CNN says Obama won. I caught a little bit of Bill Maher on Friday night and he thinks Obama won by a landslide. Surprising, no. I just wish there was an actual unbiased news source we could trust.
fox news
fair and balanced.
Posted: September 29th, 2008, 10:49 pm
by ATrain
Drudgereport has McCain winning
Posted: September 30th, 2008, 8:04 am
by flamesbball84
independent organizations have shown that fox news has the least biased news presentation. i mean actual news, not shows like bill o'reilly, but just the news.
Posted: September 30th, 2008, 8:57 am
by adam42381
flamesbball84 wrote:independent organizations have shown that fox news has the least biased news presentation. i mean actual news, not shows like bill o'reilly, but just the news.
I can't find the data. I'm not saying it's not out there, I just would like to read it. Links?
Posted: September 30th, 2008, 9:32 am
by RubberMallet
me too because i can't hardly watch fox news without going "cooome oooon"