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By ToTheLeft
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SuperJon wrote:
01LUGrad wrote:
LUconn wrote:it's really TTL.
You might have hit your head on the nail with that one.
IP is from Newark, NJ and has never been on FF before. It's not Lefty.
And I wasn't God, The Wrath, Jim Nance, Dr. Phil, Pat Summerall, or, umm........ any of those others.

I may or may not be flamesbball84 (I may or may not log on when I want to be dumber than usual and use profanity)
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By RubberMallet
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BarackNRoll08 wrote:
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:and this is the Miller lady they are talking about :roll: ... I wanted to make it a caption this, but ill be nice, and since we dont allow personal attacks ill keep my comments for when she shows up at my door to promote this clown

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I would appreciate, very much, if you would take down my photo. I am not ashamed of it, as I am, very much an avid Obama supporter. If you people keep on posting pictures of me, and saying slanderous things about me, I will take legal action. My uncle is a judge, and I will ask him what legal action I can take, if you do not honor my request.

Also, Obama supporters are not clueless. Because we stand up for something we believe in and actually know what we are talking about, doesn't make us clueless.

Again, remove my photo. Stop saying slanderous things about me. And again, I will take legal action if you don't.

-Michelle Miller
hahahahahah....maybe you should spend some time studying up on the law before you make yourself look like a fool....
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By 01LUGrad
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Thanks for helping us smooth things over with her, Mallet.
By 4everfsu
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Let see Obama doesn't want people discussing his wife, his past associate, show a photo of him at the beach, etc. Yep sounds like she is a Obama follower, following his example, don't think I am clueless, etc
By LUconn
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01LUGrad wrote:Thanks for helping us smooth things over with her, Mallet.
He's a people person. Can you tell he's in sales?
By Hold My Own
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MAN what have I been missing!!!



Yeah we def dont have to worry about legal ramifications with this one, I dont see us making any money on this! :shock: :lol: 8)
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By RubberMallet
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LUconn wrote:
01LUGrad wrote:Thanks for helping us smooth things over with her, Mallet.
He's a people person. Can you tell he's in sales?
i am a people person...i just don't qualify obama supporters as people...
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By Sly Fox
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Meanwhile back at the ranch ...
Bloomberg wrote:Obama Wins Young Evangelical Voters in Battleground-State Push

By Indira A.R. Lakshmanan


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Liberty University students Ben Miller, left, and his wife Michelle Miller, pose for a photo with campaign fliers for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on campus in Lynchburg, Virginia, on July 24, 2008. Photographer: Jay Paul/Bloomberg News

July 28 (Bloomberg) -- Sophomore Michelle Miller is the head of her university's Obama for America chapter, and she's doing everything she can to get him elected. That isn't surprising, considering the 46-year-old senator's popularity among college voters.

What is surprising is Miller's college: Liberty University, the Christian school in Lynchburg, Virginia, started by Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell. It's an unlikely place for fans of a Democrat who defends abortion rights and gay civil unions.

Miller, 23, calls recruiting political converts there ``an uphill battle.'' Still, the group's existence signals an opening for Barack Obama among conservative evangelicals -- especially younger ones -- that may help sway the outcome of the presidential vote in states like Virginia and Florida.
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By LUconn
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Did they just print those signs off at the computer lab?
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By RubberMallet
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i thought they looked like dot matrix
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By bigsmooth
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why can we not have a spirited discussion with someone of an opposite viewpoint without all the name calling and other crop that goes on?? she has the right to do what she is doing however mrs. miller does not know the law. FF has the right to disagree, but please people grow up and leave the kiddie comments at home. i find it good to have opposing views on the LU campus. maybe it will stir up some thought provoking conversations in which all can learn from.
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By RubberMallet
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you guys what answers here are the answers...

http://baracknroll08.livejournal.com/
I am a big believer in equal rights for all. Not just men, not just women, not just whites, not just blacks—and certainly not just for heterosexual couples. I know that sounds weird coming from a happily married heterosexual woman. However, I have many family members and friends who are gay, lesbian, or bisexual, and I think that they should most certainly have the same rights as couples, as I do in my heterosexual relationship. Every Christian person I talk to refutes that by saying, “Don’t you know what the Bible says about homosexuality? It’s wrong!!” Of course I know what the Bible says about homosexuality. As stated before, I’ve been to church since I was six years old, and am well aware of what the Bible says. However, I raise you this: I don’t care if the country was supposedly founded on Christian principles. Now, in the year 2008, in this country, we are Christians, Atheists, Jews, Catholics, Agnostics, Buddhists, Hindus, and every religion in between. We do not all worship the same god. So, why should those in America who aren’t Christian, have to live under laws inspired by the Christian God? Though we do not all worship the same god, and we don’t all live by the Bible, we in America, do however, live under the document that says “ALL men were created equal.” That’s right, ALL. It doesn’t say “Straight, white, conservative men were created equal.” The word “all” is inclusive of everyone. Also, I think it’s wrong to want to take away the rights of one group of people. If you’re going to take away the rights of homosexuals, why not take a step back and take away the rights of blacks, or a step farther back and take away the rights of women? It’s illogical. It makes no sense. Barack Obama is willing to allow civil unions, and give those couples the same rights as heterosexual couples, which I wholeheartedly agree with.

Now, as for the rights of women, I want to speak on the right to choose abortion or not, as someone who is 75% pro-choice and 25% pro-life. Some extreme conservatives want to do away with abortion 100%. I, however, believe that the government shouldn’t have so much control over a woman’s body. I keep being told that it is a very low percentage, but there are cases of incest, rape, and medical emergencies that a woman should have the right to opt for an abortion. However, living in a county with a high rate of teen pregnancies, I do not condone the option of abortion for promiscuous teens that go having sex with anyone, then say “Oops, I got pregnant. Time for an abortion!” I’ve been asked, then, if I think pre-marital sex is wrong. I have responded that I think it’s up to the couple, and that if they are going to have sex, they need to practice birth control. Speaking of which, Barack Obama wants to make access to birth control easier. I think that Obama’s pro-choice stance with easier access to birth control is the right balance.

Healthcare is another hot issue that I used when choosing who to support. As someone who doesn’t have healthcare because it is unaffordable, I support Obama’s plan to make healthcare easily accessible (without discrimination for pre-existing illnesses,) more affordable, and simple. I especially love that he is mandating that there be mandatory coverage of children, where they can be covered on their parents’ insurance until the age of 25. I think that’s reasonable, as 25 is a good age, because most students will be done with college, and can afford healthcare on their own then.

Furthering education is becoming less and less important to high school graduates, due to the debt that post-high school institutions cause. Senator Obama wants to fix that. His plan is to create an American Opportunity Tax Credit by simplifying the process for financial aid, ensure that the first $4000 of the student’s education is completely free, and will cover two-thirds of the cost of the student’s tuition at average public colleges and university, therefore making college pretty much free for anyone who wants to attend.

One of my main issues, and the issues of many people is not having a good job. Barack Obama wants to improve that by creating programs that will help low-income Americans to climb the ladder in the workforce, increase minimum wage (which is something we are seeing now,) increase sick days, provide tax relief, help single parents, and promote responsible fatherhood. These are just few of the good ideas Senator Obama has about improving jobs and job quality.

The last main reason I chose to support Senator Obama is his plan to bring our troops home. While he wants to be careful about how it is done, he at least has a plan. His plan is to end this war, and at one or two brigades at a time, pull out, and have them all out in sixteen months. While I think that setting something that sounds like a deadline is dangerous, I believe that Senator Obama would come through on this responsibly and victoriously.

i had quite a good laugh....enjoy
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By RubberMallet
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bigsmooth wrote:why can we not have a spirited discussion with someone of an opposite viewpoint without all the name calling and other crop that goes on?? she has the right to do what she is doing however mrs. miller does not know the law. FF has the right to disagree, but please people grow up and leave the kiddie comments at home. i find it good to have opposing views on the LU campus. maybe it will stir up some thought provoking conversations in which all can learn from.
uh...there is no discussion going on genius....she made one post spitting accusations of slander and legal action...
By LUconn
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bigsmooth wrote:why can we not have a spirited discussion with someone of an opposite viewpoint without all the name calling and other crop that goes on?? she has the right to do what she is doing however mrs. miller does not know the law. FF has the right to disagree, but please people grow up and leave the kiddie comments at home. i find it good to have opposing views on the LU campus. maybe it will stir up some thought provoking conversations in which all can learn from.
I think that's what the majority of us are trying to get going here. Unfortunately, that article just further solidifies the notion that we can't get straight answers from Obama supporters. She's the HEAD of the Obama for America chapter here and there is not one statement from her in that article. Oh wait,
Miller, 23, calls recruiting political converts there ``an uphill battle.''
They gave her half of a sentence.
By Hold My Own
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This girl just wants attention...if she truly cared she would love spirited debates that give her a chance to defend Obama and herself


This is her 15 minutes and they are quickly ticking away



LUconn's right...this is your head? Geez
By thepostman
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bigsmooth wrote:why can we not have a spirited discussion with someone of an opposite viewpoint without all the name calling and other crop that goes on?? she has the right to do what she is doing however mrs. miller does not know the law. FF has the right to disagree, but please people grow up and leave the kiddie comments at home. i find it good to have opposing views on the LU campus. maybe it will stir up some thought provoking conversations in which all can learn from.
I know it has been said already, but smooth, there is no discussion going on...she came on here all mad about this and when some of us have asked honest questions, like myself, she is nowhere to be found....I would love to hear what she has to say as it seems to be common place for Obama supporters to hit and run, so to speak
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By bigsmooth
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i know it's not a discussion until some obama supports defend their positions. i did not think i had to clarify that but apparently mallet like to be a smart jerk. carry on.
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By RubberMallet
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bigsmooth wrote:i know it's not a discussion until some obama supports defend their positions. i did not think i had to clarify that but apparently mallet like to be a smart jerk. carry on.
you've now had 2 people that had to explain to you that there was no discussion going on....apparently you were the one needing clarification...but thats what we are here for
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By bigsmooth
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what the heck is your problem?? i clarified my comment.
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By RubberMallet
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no we clarified it for you
By Hold My Own
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Call him an idiot again Smooth add to his signature!
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By RubberMallet
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yeah....talk about name calling...
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By bigsmooth
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wow...somehting i said soooo long ago....whatever man
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