[El Scorcho]

But I do buy a lot of my music through Amazon, too. Just depends on who has the cheaper price on whatever I want to buy. Amazon is my preferred store for most things these days.

[El Scorcho]

http://mlpfim.co.uk/milkymilky.jpg

And Apple is the only company that does this?

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-pul ... -20120608/

[Hold My Own]

Not really apples to apples (no pun intended).

1. The old charger/data cord will still work...you just no longer get HDMI functionality so its functionality thats changed, not any use at all.
2. 99% of the other companies today are using a generic microusb for charging because its universal...not something that is only good with one brand. That's the same crap motorola and others tried to pull back in the 90's

I actually think this is a good move for Apple. I still think they should have gone with a microusb and if you dont then at least let it be a magsafe but they needed to get smaller and it sounds like they'll be giving people a few adaptor as well.

[adam42381]

Quick question, Scorch, how are you able to upgrade at no additional cost? Is it a carrier/contract thing? I signed a 2 year agreement with Sprint last fall when I bought the 4s and I'm not eligible for any upgrade discounts until next June. Is there a way around this that I'm not aware of? The 5 will probably be around $650 (current 4s price for 16gb is $650) from Sprint and I got a quote of $240 from Gazelle to sell them my 4s.

Yeah, what RubberMallet said. AT&T always gives me the fully subsidized upgrade price.

Maybe I'll get lucky and Sprint will do the same. Fingers crossed.

No luck for me with the upgrade from Sprint. I've also been reading that AT&T isn't allowing most people to upgrade early like they have in the past. Any truth to this?

[El Scorcho]

adam42381: I can confirm this. I did not get "full" upgrade pricing... yet.

What the AT&T rep told me is that, in the past, Apple has always done an override on upgrade pricing for those who owned original iPhones as a customer appreciation sort of thing. (Which explains my upgrades in the past.) They're still going to do it this time, but they're waiting until after the 21st. Since it's something they've always done silently and unofficially, I suspect they're throwing AT&T a bone and seeing how many people they can get to upgrade anyway. The CSR I talked to at AT&T was far more knowledgable and forthcoming than I expected, so I'll be waiting till the 21st to re-assess. I won't do it if I don't get the fully subsidized price.

[El Scorcho]

Not really apples to apples (no pun intended).

1. The old charger/data cord will still work...you just no longer get HDMI functionality so its functionality thats changed, not any use at all.
2. 99% of the other companies today are using a generic microusb for charging because its universal...not something that is only good with one brand. That's the same crap motorola and others tried to pull back in the 90's

I actually think this is a good move for Apple. I still think they should have gone with a microusb and if you dont then at least let it be a magsafe but they needed to get smaller and it sounds like they'll be giving people a few adaptor as well.

You just no longer get HDMI functionality out of a cable that used to give you that. So, it is kind of the same. My point was that companies make changes to this sort of thing often and it isn't to get people to upgrade to a new cable or to charge them for an adapter.

In this case, Apple wanted to shrink the physical size of the connector so that they could make the phone thinner. It's the same reason they dropped legacy ports on the next-gen MacBook Pros. You can't make the laptop thinner than an RJ45 jack and still include an RJ45 jack. The housing for the old dock connector is thicker than the new iPhone design would have allowed. Based on what I've read, they've delayed this change for two models now. I'm glad they're dumping it, and I'm glad they're utilizing Thunderbolt for all those kinds of peripheral jacks on the next-gen MBPs.

The dock connector is also more than just charging. A micro-USB plug doesn't have enough pins or bandwidth to support all of the dock connector functionality. They'd have to drop that too in order to support micro-USB on the board.

P.S. If you live in Europe, you'll get a Micro-USB charging adapter with your new iPhone 5, because it's the law there. Since the dock connector is more than just charging, though, Apple will always stick with it.

[RubberMallet]

http://mlpfim.co.uk/milkymilky.jpg

And Apple is the only company that does this?

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-pul ... -20120608/

ease up there needlenitz

[adam42381]

adam42381: I can confirm this. I did not get "full" upgrade pricing... yet.

What the AT&T rep told me is that, in the past, Apple has always done an override on upgrade pricing for those who owned original iPhones as a customer appreciation sort of thing. (Which explains my upgrades in the past.) They're still going to do it this time, but they're waiting until after the 21st. Since it's something they've always done silently and unofficially, I suspect they're throwing AT&T a bone and seeing how many people they can get to upgrade anyway. The CSR I talked to at AT&T was far more knowledgable and forthcoming than I expected, so I'll be waiting till the 21st to re-assess. I won't do it if I don't get the fully subsidized price.

That makes sense. Hopefully they'll keep doing it for those of you who started with the original iPhone.

[lynchburgwildcats]

For music downloads I use MP3Millions. I put $40 in my account and considering full albums cost about $1 I still have a ways to go. And they transfer over to my iTunes account

Is that site legal and have you ever had any issues with your credit card since putting money on there?

[lynchburgwildcats]

Using iTunes as just a downloader doesn't work when some of the songs are DRMed and can't be played on anything else.

Music from iTunes hasn't been DRM'ed since 2009 and there are ways to remove the DRM, if you don't want to upgrade your files to the higher quality versions.

All I know is when I get iTunes music from someone for a playlist to use over the PA system at various events, the crap won't play on anything but iTunes.

[El Scorcho]

http://mlpfim.co.uk/milkymilky.jpg

And Apple is the only company that does this?

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-pul ... -20120608/

ease up there needlenitz

Are you kidding? This is the most fun I've had on FlameFans in a year.

[RubberMallet]

lol.

[Hold My Own]

Why dont they magsafe the connector? I guess because it needs to be more secure since it's doing data too. Still, now that would be sick.

Did they ever get that patent for charging through headphones? That is a brilliant idea too.

[lynchburgwildcats]

1GB of RAM on the new iPhone has been confirmed, as suspected.

[Hold My Own]

That should be adequate

[El Scorcho]

1GB of RAM on the new iPhone has been confirmed, as suspected.

I'm sure it'll be a total dog. I bet people will get out of "memory" errors constantly.

[Sly Fox]

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[Kolzilla41]

Ok. So I am due for an upgrade. I absolutely hate my Galaxy GII, especially since it upgraded to ICS. My options are an iPhone 5 or the G3. The iPhone is appealing but Sprint is offering $75 off of the G3 online right now. Any suggestions. BTW, I use my phone a lot. Surfing, bluetooth my phone to my car radio (including music), pictures , videos.

[Hold My Own]

Ok. So I am due for an upgrade. I absolutely hate my Galaxy GII, especially since it upgraded to ICS. My options are an iPhone 5 or the G3. The iPhone is appealing but Sprint is offering $75 off of the G3 online right now. Any suggestions. BTW, I use my phone a lot. Surfing, bluetooth my phone to my car radio (including music), pictures , videos.

I havent forgotten about you. Stop by after lunch and we'll get it looked at...just give me a heads up.

[Purple Haize]

Ok. So I am due for an upgrade. I absolutely hate my Galaxy GII, especially since it upgraded to ICS. My options are an iPhone 5 or the G3. The iPhone is appealing but Sprint is offering $75 off of the G3 online right now. Any suggestions. BTW, I use my phone a lot. Surfing, bluetooth my phone to my car radio (including music), pictures , videos.

If you don't like a product why would you give them your business again?
I love my iPhone

[Hold My Own]

Samsungs product is second to none. Brilliant hardware, etc. They just dropped the ball with the S2 users and their recent update. It happens to the best of them...at least its not hardware issues that requires you to talk out of a certain part of your mouth or the call will drop


My S3 is better than any iPhone I've ever owned....and better than any of the newer ones that I've used Haha, it's just personal taste though....Apple makes a great product...there is no denying that. I just like to customize mine more than just by putting a different case on it....but not everyone is into that kind of stuff so that wont appeal to them.

[NotAJerry]

It didn't take long for a tumblr blog to pop up mocking the horrendous iOS 6 Maps. Apple once again shows it's really not very good at things, even those they blatantly steal from others.

http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/

[alabama24]

I have found the new Map App to be superior. Most of the funny things on that site related to pics. I couldn't care less. What I like is that the Maps scale quickly and nice. The google maps app would often take a long time to load once you zoomed in or out.

[Sly Fox]

Really, perhaps that was because you were using 3G.

[alabama24]

Sly one Sly. Sly one.