[Hold My Own]

I've stayed out of this but when you read the police report no speculation is needed...that clears up any questions I had.

[aspiano]

Gary was killed - The FBI has been asked to fully investigate the local police department and find who did this henious crime.

[SuperJon]

Holy crap dude. The autopsy showed what happened. Do you realize the stuff that you're accusing people of in a public forum?

[Hold My Own]

I hope your right man, b/c right now it's not looking to good



I would think the police would be able to find others that may have participated with him if these were serious habits....we'll see

[Rocketfan]

Gary was killed - The FBI has been asked to fully investigate the local police department and find who did this henious crime.

I'm fine if you believe that, but get some facts first....then post....its pretty simply really. Wild theories only make you look like you really have a few screws loose.

[kel varson]

Gary was killed - The FBI has been asked to fully investigate the local police department and find who did this henious crime.

Who asked the FBI to investigate? Just curious who else doesn't believe the autopsy.

[Hold My Own]

You should read the PM I just received for saying that the POLICE REPORT cleared up some of my questions...apparently i speculated to much by reading the evidence they found and what I said was shameful



I've lost people, heck I was with my bestfriend and watched him die...it's not an easy thing, neither is this...but if he and I were together and doing something we should have been and it happened I need to be the first person to say what we did was wrong but that didnt define his life here on earth and nothing else. All people have to go off of is the police report, if it turns out a year from now something is different and they hid evidence then those that believe the police report still are not at fault b/c if you cant believe that then you're with LU01's grand ma who thinks landing on the moon is causing global warming and everything is a conspiracy

[RagingTireFire]

You should read the PM I just received for saying that the POLICE REPORT cleared up some of my questions...apparently i speculated to much by reading the evidence they found and what I said was shameful

You, too?

[SuperJon]

He does it to everyone who disagrees with him.

[Cider Jim]

Art is grieving and hurting right now, so please be kind to him.

[kel varson]

Art is grieving and hurting right now, so please be kind to him.

I understand, this is a really horrible situation.

[Schfourteenteen]

Wow...... thats horrible.

I dont think its possible to force someone into a wet suit..... this is bad

[Rocketfan]

He does it to everyone who disagrees with him.

Yup i got one as well, and responded accordingly.

[thepostman]

I have stayed out of this as well, but with all the evidence that is out there for all of us to read its hard to deny what happend...there is probably more to this story then we will ever know...but just because somebody loses a friend does not give them the right to outright accuse somebody of murder. Its one thing to say I think he was killed....but its a whole other thing to say he WAS killed....

you can't just go around on message boards accusing people of murder....

anyways...this is a sensitive issue and it needs so much prayers for everybody involved and everybody who has been effected, much like aspiano has been..

[Hold My Own]

EDIT: It's not worth even talking about. Any evidence presented against the police just lost all creditability

[aspiano]

I read a blog tonight that seemed to be the most meaningful words about our Brother, Gary.

Enjoy

http://darthbode.blogspot.com/2007/10/no-one-knew.html

[SuperJon]

So are you conceding that it wasn't murder?

[LUconn]

Here is the thing, the police report says he was alone at the time of death. But it also says "There is a series of ligatures extending from the hands to the feet. The hands are bound behind the back. The feet are tied to the hands." How could he have possibly have done that by himself? I'm not suggesting it was murder, I do think it was an accident. But come on, there HAD to be someone else there. They just left because they didn't want to get in trouble and it was embarrassing.

[RagingTireFire]

"There is a series of ligatures extending from the hands to the feet. The hands are bound behind the back. The feet are tied to the hands." How could he have possibly have done that by himself?

Twelve seconds on the Internet can show you how to do exactly that with no outside help at all.

[LUconn]

to google that, would surely bring me to a site that gets me fired.

[Rocketfan]

to google that, would surely bring me to a site that gets me fired.

Or the IT guys would find out who you are so they could laugh at you.

[JeanW]

Twelve seconds on the Internet can show you how to do exactly that with no outside help at all.

Yes, that's exactly right.

[aspiano]

I wish to thank all those on line who have reached out to me, and offered me sincere understanding and comfort in the loss of my friend, Gary Aldridge.

I was very touched by a couple who called me directly from Montgomery who used to attend Gary's church and were equally grieving our mutual loss. They were able to shed a little light on this matter.

At this point, I do know that the 300 members of Gary's church have been 'sworn' to secrecy and no one is 'allowed' to discuss Gary's case, even with each other. I think that is weird and it will in the fullness of time, divide the church.


What their head deacon who is in charge does not realize is that by supressing the TRUTH, and keeping secrets, it has and will continue to open up the world to speculate - what may of happened. The secular world likes to magnify when a believer has fallen - even before there is evidence. I think a few members of the church and the police dept. know exactly what happened, and perhaps, even who he was with....but no one is talking. Case closed.

Then there is the Christian Army where some of us slay our wounded. I have never understood this.

At best, based on people who were closer to Gary than myself and former members of this church, there is something terribly wrong with how this case was handled both by the police and his church.

My hope and prayer is that the truth will come out soon. Friends far and near would just like to know what really happened.

Again, thank you for being a family extended here. When one persons has a hurt or need, the true measure of our Christian faith is that we are there for each other, to support, not to judge and help each other on this earthly journey.

May God richly bless you this day. Art Scott, Aliso Viejo, CA
We are truly sinners saved by God's Amazing Grace......perhaps after all this matter surrounding Gary comes out, ministries can spin out from this who will embrace people who may be caught up in sins of the flesh....just the way Jesus did during His earthly ministry. If I recall correctly, Jesus hung out with the low lifers, the sinners, the prostitutes......

[El Scorcho]

At this point, I do know that the 300 members of Gary's church have been 'sworn' to secrecy and no one is 'allowed' to discuss Gary's case, even with each other. I think that is weird and it will in the fullness of time, divide the church.

So what happens if somebody decides to talk?

[Schfourteenteen]

My hope and prayer is that the truth will come out soon. Friends far and near would just like to know what really happened.

This is gonna come out wrong, but

What if the truth isnt what friends far and near are looking to hear?
Can they accept that?

Not trying to accuse anyone of anything, but if my best friend died due to something he did, I would make every efffort to not believe it. If it meant saying the police screwed something up to make myself feel better, I would go all out. Maybe its a different breed of people down there, but thats me