TH Spangler wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2024, 5:50 pmI disagree. They understand it, they just don't care.ATrain wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2024, 4:02 pm ....without truly even understanding biology and fetal/infant development ..No, the liberal/left is confused there![]()
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TH Spangler wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2024, 5:50 pmI disagree. They understand it, they just don't care.ATrain wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2024, 4:02 pm ....without truly even understanding biology and fetal/infant development ..No, the liberal/left is confused there![]()
flamehunter wrote: ↑June 3rd, 2024, 6:41 amThey're still trying to define who can get pregnant.TH Spangler wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2024, 5:50 pmI disagree. They understand it, they just don't care.ATrain wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2024, 4:02 pm ....without truly even understanding biology and fetal/infant development ..No, the liberal/left is confused there![]()
TH Spangler wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2024, 5:50 pmIts not either/or, both can be vastly wrong for very different reasons.ATrain wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2024, 4:02 pm ....without truly even understanding biology and fetal/infant development ..No, the liberal/left is confused there![]()
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
Yacht Rock wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 10:51 am Voted D for the first time in my life in the last election and will be doing it again this time. Actually, our whole house (3 voters) will be doing it and several others I know (who are registered R) are heading that way as well.Why? I understand the loathing of Trump. I join you there but.... when the other side is offering Biden or 4 more years of the worst foreign, domestic and social executive administration in our lifetime. I dont get it?
Yacht Rock wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 10:51 am Voted D for the first time in my life in the last election and will be doing it again this time. Actually, our whole house (3 voters) will be doing it and several others I know (who are registered R) are heading that way as well.Take a look at the D party's platform. If you're comfortable with it, by all means go for it.
Yacht Rock wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 12:57 pm It comes down to which one I think poses a greater risk to our country. Since I don't have to guess (have lived through years of Trump and years of Biden), I go with Trump posing a greater risk.Good for you. You're making a decision for yourself and that's your choice....
In addition, as a Christian, my faith leads me to vote that way. It's a fairly easy decision for our family.
Yacht Rock wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 12:57 pm It comes down to which one I think poses a greater risk to our country. Since I don't have to guess (have lived through years of Trump and years of Biden), I go with Trump posing a greater risk.Now I know you are trolling! Greatest Risk to our Country:
In addition, as a Christian, my faith leads me to vote that way. It's a fairly easy decision for our family.
jmclaughlin wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 2:03 pmYacht Rock wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 12:57 pm It comes down to which one I think poses a greater risk to our country. Since I don't have to guess (have lived through years of Trump and years of Biden), I go with Trump posing a greater risk.Now I know you are trolling! Greatest Risk to our Country:
In addition, as a Christian, my faith leads me to vote that way. It's a fairly easy decision for our family.
Record illegal immigration and increasing daily
Record inflation (As a direct result of passing his only achievement in office in 3+ years..."the inflation reduction act" by pumping an additional $740 Billion into an overstressed economy)
Afghanistan withdrawal and subsequent funding of Iran which led to directly to the funding of Hamas's attack of Israel
Push to use OSHA to force vaccination on every American citizen
Weaponization of the DOJ (the #3 in his cabinet litigated the case against his opponent in a sham trial in NY)
Foreign meddling and family corruption in laundering money from Ukraine, Russia, China...etc, (For decades)
Not to mention POTUS's inability to stay coherent for > a 10 minute stretch without being swept away by enablers.
The #2 being even more incompetent, to the point that she has 0 known responsibilities. Remember when she was assigned as the border czar...for about 15 minutes? What does she do now?
Just a few that immediately come to mind
This current Administration is the greatest threat we have. Bigger than the Chinese gov, Iran and Russia combined. Joe Biden isn't even sentient at this moment so I don't blame him. He has always been feckless and power hungry but no one believes that he is actively pulling levers any longer. He is being used by nefarious actors because the ignorant, media influenced dopes can rally behind the idea of a good ole' Uncle Joe, while destroying any fiber of a "Christian Nation" we have left.
Again, I am saddened that Trump is what we have to rally behind as conservatives. We should have better to choose from but as a Christian, he is the most sensible choice. For me, Trumps biggest endorsement is from those who actively promote the destruction of our nation and their shared open hatred for Trump. i.e. Ilhan Omar, George Soros, Hollywood lappies, etc.
We all have the obvious in front of us. We did have 4 years of Trump that benefited the majority of Americans, pre-Covid. No new wars, Stood for pro-life, supported conservative judges, secured our border, a rolling economy, supported law enforcement all the while fighting of senseless slander at the cost of personal wealth. He didn't go after his enemy's in court (even after the "lock her up" chants). IMO- He should have because of what we know now, the D's cooked up the whole Russian interference under the direction of Obama and Clinton. Then you can contrast that with Biden's time in office. I don't see how anyone who seeks objectivity would even struggle with the decision.
Yacht Rock wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 2:33 pm My opinion isn’t based on the media. I don’t really follow MSM. Just based on Trump’s actions and the words out of his mouth. I don’t see much of anything about him that aligns with my faith or something that in good conscience I could support. Again, that’s just how we see it.I get the trump part...but Joe Biden is your choice, how??
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
ATrain wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 4:16 pm 99.9% sure I'm voting for Chase OliverI’ve always voted libertarian. My grasp on the English language isn’t to the point I can adequately put into words my hatred of the federal government and all that it is…but I’m not voting for him.
prototype wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 1:15 pmThis is why I take religion out of the equation when making political decisions. The only consideration I give it is if one side will leave me be to practice my faith or will they try ramming something down my throat? That goes for both sides of the aisle. As it stands right now, I can answer that question very easily. I know neither of our candidates are Godlt men so my best hope is they leave me alone.Yacht Rock wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 12:57 pm It comes down to which one I think poses a greater risk to our country. Since I don't have to guess (have lived through years of Trump and years of Biden), I go with Trump posing a greater risk.Good for you. You're making a decision for yourself and that's your choice....
In addition, as a Christian, my faith leads me to vote that way. It's a fairly easy decision for our family.
I'm not a big fan of Trump, but I'm a big fan of the policies he supports... I lived through both also, as a leader of a family and a business, and I can say without a doubt - Biden has been much worse on both fronts. And you mention Christian - not sure how any Christian would vote for a party that supports Abortion 100% - Taking a life out of convenience is a "no-vote" for me - as for my 3 other voters in my house - it's their choice to make - not mine. But, I'm pretty sure they vote the same way.
Yacht Rock wrote: ↑June 11th, 2024, 2:33 pm My opinion isn’t based on the media. I don’t really follow MSM. Just based on Trump’s actions and the words out of his mouth. I don’t see much of anything about him that aligns with my faith or something that in good conscience I could support. Again, that’s just how we see it.YR, I can appreciate this. There isn’t much about either Trump or Biden that aligns with my faith. And my conscience struggles to support either one.