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adam42381 wrote:Thank you.lynchburgwildcats wrote:More unarmed white people are shot by cops every year than unarmed black peopleWhat's your point? There are about 5 times as many white people in the U.S. as there are black people.
RubberMallet wrote:yeah and blacks kill many more of each other than anyone else. thats all understood and while relevant, doesn't dismiss society's part in this.So there are more black criminals proportionally, why is that society's fault?
ATrain wrote:RubberMallet wrote:yeah and blacks kill many more of each other than anyone else. thats all understood and while relevant, doesn't dismiss society's part in this.So there are more black criminals proportionally, why is that society's fault?
adam42381 wrote:When's the last time you had people rioting over a white person being a victim over police brutality unless they were a woman or a non-racial minority of some sort (like being gay, for example)? If you listened only to the media, you would think police brutality is a problem only black people have to face.lynchburgwildcats wrote:More unarmed white people are shot by cops every year than unarmed black peopleWhat's your point? There are about 5 times as many white people in the U.S. as there are black people.
RubberMallet wrote:sorry honkeys. we really have it easy.I agree we need to do something about subsidies. When children see parents not working and the government taking care of them, that sends the wrong message. Just ask anyone currently working in public service, whether it be Social Security disability, welfare/food stamps, public housing assistance, etc...
why are blacks incarcerated more than any other race while only being like 10% of the population? do we really think that they are breaking the law at such a larger rate than we are? its just not possible. you could make a case for complete irradication. studies have shown how much less likely blacks are all over the country at getting favorable judgements. most african americans are given free terrible counsel. there is so much information as too why there are such huge disparities.
The black community has to do a lot of work no doubt but the gvt has to change from fascilitating hopelessness in the name of subsidies and actually exact change together with people in those communities. something the right has doen a woefully poor job of politically. Privately, we don't need to talk about the amazing work Christian communities do to help. which is great but is still substandard. reality is that’s not enough. when only 3-4 % of the "christian" population even tithes, and then that avg tithe is only 3% of their income, we wonder why we require gvt intervention.
thepostman wrote:I think we are focusing way too much on race in this conversation. I don't think that is your intention mallet but this problem is much larger than just race relations. Of course that plays a part but I think focusing solely on race take attention away from the real problem and that is how to we give those who don't have the kind of opportunity middle class people have opportunity to succeed without simply giving hand outs. I am not nearly smart enough to come up with all the solution but all this focus on race and race along is doing this problem in Baltimore and in our country a serious disservice.it makes sense to come together as one big happy family and sing "we are the world" but unfortunately the science doesn't play out. there very much are different biological differences from a race standpoint and just stamping that out and trying to force diversification down throats is falling on its face. because with race comes culture and its a culture thing that needs worked out.
RubberMallet wrote:I'm not even sure what direction you are heading with this one. What in my post lead you to post this drivel? I agree race and cultural differences are part of the problem but clearly there is more to it than just race. Which is all I was saying.thepostman wrote:I think we are focusing way too much on race in this conversation. I don't think that is your intention mallet but this problem is much larger than just race relations. Of course that plays a part but I think focusing solely on race take attention away from the real problem and that is how to we give those who don't have the kind of opportunity middle class people have opportunity to succeed without simply giving hand outs. I am not nearly smart enough to come up with all the solution but all this focus on race and race along is doing this problem in Baltimore and in our country a serious disservice.it makes sense to come together as one big happy family and sing "we are the world" but unfortunately the science doesn't play out. there very much are different biological differences from a race standpoint and just stamping that out and trying to force diversification down throats is falling on its face. because with race comes culture and its a culture thing that needs worked out.
RubberMallet wrote:there very much are different biological differences from a race standpoint
RubberMallet wrote:with race comes culture and its a culture thing that needs worked out.What in the world are you trying to say? Thats what secular humanism teaches. race ≠ culture!
thepostman wrote:because race is a huge part of what gives this culture an identity. if you take it away then you'll get nowhere. We are both agree but i think you can't set race aside here or direct focus off of it.RubberMallet wrote:I'm not even sure what direction you are heading with this one. What in my post lead you to post this drivel? I agree race and cultural differences are part of the problem but clearly there is more to it than just race. Which is all I was saying.thepostman wrote:I think we are focusing way too much on race in this conversation. I don't think that is your intention mallet but this problem is much larger than just race relations. Of course that plays a part but I think focusing solely on race take attention away from the real problem and that is how to we give those who don't have the kind of opportunity middle class people have opportunity to succeed without simply giving hand outs. I am not nearly smart enough to come up with all the solution but all this focus on race and race along is doing this problem in Baltimore and in our country a serious disservice.it makes sense to come together as one big happy family and sing "we are the world" but unfortunately the science doesn't play out. there very much are different biological differences from a race standpoint and just stamping that out and trying to force diversification down throats is falling on its face. because with race comes culture and its a culture thing that needs worked out.
alabama24 wrote:secular humanism revolves around moral truths without the need of a higher power.RubberMallet wrote:there very much are different biological differences from a race standpointRubberMallet wrote:with race comes culture and its a culture thing that needs worked out.What in the world are you trying to say? Thats what secular humanism teaches. race ≠ culture!
RubberMallet wrote:Yep. And to say that biological differences separate the races (a secular humanist / Darwinian lie) further promotes hatred of one another. It isn't true. Our sin nature causes us to divide along lines of differences (rich/poor, black/white, male/female, smart/dumb, majority/minority, etc.) rather than unite. It's ethics, theology, philosophy. Not biology.alabama24 wrote:secular humanism revolves around moral truths without the need of a higher power.RubberMallet wrote:there very much are different biological differences from a race standpointRubberMallet wrote:with race comes culture and its a culture thing that needs worked out.What in the world are you trying to say? Thats what secular humanism teaches. race ≠ culture!
thepostman wrote:Mallet I am pretty sure we agree but something is getting Lost.yeah i must have misread you or something.
Race us obviously part of the issue and should not be ignored. It just shouldn't be the only problem we focus on.
alabama24 wrote:haha. i'm not sure this is going to be able to go much further if you aren't capable of acknowledging the biological differences between different races. and i'm not sure you truly understand the SH position as most will not purposely acknowledge the differences because of the fear of people being treated wrongly due to it. that our biological differences mean we have to discriminate is also false. its just our human nature to segment and congregate with people we are most like.
Yep. And to say that biological differences separate the races (a secular humanist / Darwinian lie) further promotes hatred of one another. It isn't true. Our sin nature causes us to divide along lines of differences (rich/poor, black/white, male/female, smart/dumb, majority/minority, etc.) rather than unite. It's ethics, theology, philosophy. Not biology.
RubberMallet wrote:if you aren't capable of acknowledging the biological differences between different races.That is an embarrassment.
