[LUconn]

http://www.globalfirepower.com/

China Military Strength

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PERSONNEL
Total Population: 1,330,044,544 [2008]
Population Available: 729,323,673 [2008]
Fit for Military Service: 609,273,077 [2008]
Reaching Military Age Annually: 20,470,412 [2008]
Active Military Personnel: 2,255,000 [2008]
Active Military Reserve: 800,000 [2008]
Active Paramilitary Units: 3,969,000 [2008]

ARMY
Total Land-Based Weapons: 31,300
Tanks: 8,200 [2004]
Armored Personnel Carriers: 5,000 [2004]
Towed Artillery: 14,000 [2004]
Self-Propelled Guns: 1,700 [2004]
Multiple Rocket Launch Systems: 2,400 [2004]
Mortars: 16,000 [2001]
Anti-Tank Guided Weapons: 6,500 [2004]
Anti-Aircraft Weapons: 7,700 [2004]

NAVY
Total Navy Ships: 760
Merchant Marine Strength: 1,822 [2008]
Major Ports and Harbors: 8
Aircraft Carriers: 1 [2010]
Destroyers: 21 [2004]
Submarines: 68 [2004]
Frigates: 42 [2004]
Patrol & Coastal Craft: 368 [2004]
Mine Warfare Craft: 39 [2004]
Amphibious Craft: 121 [2004]

AIR FORCE
Total Aircraft: 1,900 [2004]
Helicopters: 491 [2004]
Serviceable Airports: 467 [2007]

FINANCES (USD)
Defense Budget: $59,000,000,000 [2008]
Foreign Exch. & Gold: $1,534,000,000,000 [2007]
Purchasing Power: $7,099,000,000,000 [2007]

OIL
Oil Production: 3,725,000 bbl/day [2007]
Oil Consumption: 6,930,000 bbl/day [2007]
Proven Oil Reserves: 12,800,000,000 bbl [2007]

LOGISTICAL
Labor Force: 800,700,000 [2007]
Roadways: 1,930,544 km
Railways: 75,438 km

GEOGRAPHIC
Waterways: 124,000 km
Coastline: 14,500 km
Square Land Area: 9,596,960 km

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United States of America Military Strength

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PERSONNEL
Total Population: 303,824,640 [2008]
Population Available: 144,354,117 [2008]
Fit for Military Service: 118,600,541 [2008]
Reaching Military Age Annually: 4,266,128 [2008]
Active Military Personnel: 1,385,122 [2008]
Active Military Reserve: 1,458,500 [2008]
Active Paramilitary Units: 453,000 [2008]

ARMY
Total Land-Based Weapons: 29,920
Towed Artillery: 5,178 [2001]

NAVY
Total Navy Ships: 1,559
Merchant Marine Strength: 422 [2008]
Major Ports and Harbors: 10
Aircraft Carriers: 12 [2008]
Destroyers: 50 [2008]
Submarines: 75 [2008]
Frigates: 92 [2008]
Patrol & Coastal Craft: 100 [2008]
Mine Warfare Craft: 28 [2008]
Amphibious Craft: 38 [2008]

AIR FORCE
Total Aircraft: 18,169 [2003]
Helicopters: 4,593 [2003]
Serviceable Airports: 14,947 [2007]

FINANCES (USD)
Defense Budget: $515,400,000,000 [2009]
Foreign Exch. & Gold: $70,570,000,000 [2007]
Purchasing Power: $13,780,000,000,000 [2007]

OIL
Oil Production: 7,460,000 bbl/day [2007]
Oil Consumption: 20,800,000 bbl/day [2005]
Proven Oil Reserves: 21,760,000,000 bbl [2006]

LOGISTICAL
Labor Force: 153,100,000 [2007]
Roadways: 6,465,799 km
Railways: 226,612 km

GEOGRAPHIC
Waterways: 41,009 km
Coastline: 19,924 km
Square Land Area: 9,826,630 km

Seriously. Look at the number of aircrafts. We would dominate their skies in a week.

[El Scorcho]

if China tried to attack us right now we would kick the crap out of them....after this presidency...who knows....its still hard to tell what Obama's plans are with the military...downsizing seems very likely though

If China uses an e-bomb on the US we wouldn't stand a chance.

I'm assuming by "e-bomb" you're referring to some kind of EMP attack? At best that would currently involve a high-altitude nuclear detonation. If someone breaks out the nukes it's all over anyway, so I'm not too worried about it.

[Ed Dantes]

First -- the above statistics don't take into account mobilization. Having more aircraft carriers than the enemy doesn't matter if you can't get them across the Pacific.

Second -- there is no reason why China would attempt a military attack on us. They have over a trillion dollars of ours, if they wanted to destroy us they could easily do so economically.

[Realist]

The US and China are mutually reliant on each other. I highly doubt either would push things to war, if anything, I think the relationship will get stronger over time.

And China has a much higher chance of disintegrating due to political turmoil than we do. Much, much higher chance.

[flamesbball84]

I'm assuming by "e-bomb" you're referring to some kind of EMP attack? At best that would currently involve a high-altitude nuclear detonation. If someone breaks out the nukes it's all over anyway, so I'm not too worried about it.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/e-bomb.htm

Such an attack (from another nation) is still a possibility, but that is no longer the United States' main concern [nuclear EMP bombs]. These days, U.S. intelligence is giving non-nuclear EMP devices, such as e-bombs, much more attention. These weapons wouldn't affect as wide an area, because they wouldn't blast photons so high above the Earth. But they could be used to create total blackouts on a more local level.

[mrmacphisto]

The US and China are mutually reliant on each other. I highly doubt either would push things to war, if anything, I think the relationship will get stronger over time.

One can hope, but what if our government decides we can't pay those trillions back? How does a nation file bankruptcy?

[scuzdriver]

The US and China are mutually reliant on each other. I highly doubt either would push things to war, if anything, I think the relationship will get stronger over time.

One can hope, but what if out government decides we can't pay those trillions back? How does a nation file bankruptcy?


That should be easy....just send Hillary with an IOU note. Maybe even trade her out for a discount on that debt.

[Realist]

I understand what you are saying, but if China calls in all the debt, we would at the very least see massive tax increases (if not total economic collapse), which would cut or erase the purchasing power of the American consumer. Cut or erase the purchasing power of the American consumer, and China's economy fails as well, and that would most likely evolve into a chinese civil war. I don't think it will ever be beneficial to either to stop their reliance on the other.

I woudn't rule anything out, but I would place my bets on something happening with Taiwan to incite an eventual war rather than something related to our economic relationship.

[El Scorcho]

I'm assuming by "e-bomb" you're referring to some kind of EMP attack? At best that would currently involve a high-altitude nuclear detonation. If someone breaks out the nukes it's all over anyway, so I'm not too worried about it.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/e-bomb.htm

Such an attack (from another nation) is still a possibility, but that is no longer the United States' main concern [nuclear EMP bombs]. These days, U.S. intelligence is giving non-nuclear EMP devices, such as e-bombs, much more attention. These weapons wouldn't affect as wide an area, because they wouldn't blast photons so high above the Earth. But they could be used to create total blackouts on a more local level.

Reading is fundamental.

I said "currently" and you point to an article that talks about years of research and then speculates that we might have such a weapon in our arsenal. We also might have sharks with lasers strapped to their heads but probably not. Just like we probably don't have an "e-bomb" secretly stashed away. There's a reason they've been researching it for years. It's really freakin' hard to do. There's absolutely no proof (even from research universities) that we've successfully developed a non-nuke EMP weapon. Lots of theory and conjecture does not a weapon make.

The next major solar storm we're due for in 2012 is supposedly going to make EMP weapons look like they're toys for chumps anyway. We'll see.

[ALUmnus]

Neat graphic on where the money will be going:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00154.html

[El Scorcho]

Neat graphic on where the money will be going:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00154.html

$7.5b in child support?

I must have fathered some children I didn't know about.

[thepostman]

when does Obama start paying my rent and filling up my gas tank?? I am still waiting

[ALUmnus]

Neat graphic on where the money will be going:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00154.html

$7.5b in child support?

I must have fathered some children I didn't know about.

You have now, millions of them.

[ATrain]

Neat graphic on where the money will be going:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00154.html

$7.5b in child support?

I must have fathered some children I didn't know about.

You have now, millions of them.

Dang Schorcho, I understand the urge but seriously, have your women ever heard of birth control pills?

[ALUmnus]

Here's a pretty good commercial put out about the stimulus:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/19055.html