[Ed Dantes]

All of it's crap. MSNBC is probably the worst. I have CNN on at work, but I'll switch between that at FOX...

The best thing to do is to watch the 'mainstream' media, then go to a site like newsbusters.org to sort it out.

If you want unbiased news, go to http://www.theonion.com. Everyone gets it there.

[Ed Dantes]

I will say... FOX is pleasant to look at...

[ALUmnus]

I have to admit, Jane Skinner does an excellent job of looking at the camera.

[flamesbball84]

independent organizations have shown that fox news has the least biased news presentation. i mean actual news, not shows like bill o'reilly, but just the news.

I can't find the data. I'm not saying it's not out there, I just would like to read it. Links?

oh this was like two years ago. I ahve no idea where i found it now.

[Ed Dantes]

Have y'all seen this? The moderator in the VP debate is in the tank for Obama...

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/30/a- ... for-obama/

I'd complain, but I have a feeling that the McCain camp signed off on this. *sigh*

Can you imagine the uproar if Sean Hannity was chosen to be a 'moderator'?

[SumItUp]

This is not good. Two things come to mind: Ethics & Disclosure.

oh - oh !!
by Greta Van Susteren

I confirmed for us here on GretaWire: the McCain campaign did NOT know about Gwen Ifill’s book (I think I told them when I made my efforts - emails about midnight - to find out!) I am stunned….the campaign (actually both) should have been told before the campaign agreed to have her moderate. It simply is not fair - in law, this would create a mistrial.

(read two blog entries before this one to understand the content of this one.)

http://townhall.com/blog/g/0b4a69bd-ba5 ... d7be296ed4

[adam42381]

I agree that it's unfair to have an obviously biased moderator but she already moderated the Cheney-Edwards debate in 2004 and was considered biased back then. Was this forgotten?

Also, does the McCain campaign not have access to Google to run a quick search on her prior to approving her as moderator. Even a little research would have turned up the fact that she wrote a book.

There was an article in the Washington Post on September 4th that covered the book and the fact that she was going to moderate the VP debate. This should not be news. It has been covered and I'm finding it hard to believe that nobody on the McCain team reads the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... id=artslot

[RagingTireFire]

No Googling because McCain can't use a computer. Obama told me so.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/0 ... paign.html

[Fumblerooskies]

The VP debate is going to be HUGE for McCain-Palin. She has taken some hits over the past week for less than stellar interviews...and for the campaign allegedly sheltering her from the press. She has to come out smoking and not just smoking hot tomorrow night.

[HenryGale]

just smoking hot tomorrow night.

That won't hurt....

[kel varson]

this was a debate that mccain really needed to wipe the floor with obama and he didn't really....i think he won it (the 20 minutes i watched of it anyway, i can't stand being talked down to and i can't bear to watch mccain move his arms like a robot for longer than that) but i dont' think he won it enough so i called it a tie.

I actually watched all of it and thought it was pretty even. Obama was suprisingly strong and well versed on foreign policy but despite that, he was no match for McCain in that area. Where Obama did do well (and not that I agree with him) was on the economy. His answers seem to resonate more. McCain had many opportunties to hit Obama on the Economy but all he would talk about was earmarks. Not that earmarks aren't important, but he needed to score points on the Wall Street Crisis and give his solutions. While neither candidate really did well with the Wall Street crisis, Obama was on the attack more and McCain's responses were inadequate.

I think the Palin-Biden debate is going to be huge for the McCain campaign. She really needs to come out strong.

[Ed Dantes]

What's going to happen is no one is going to stumble... Biden is going to use a bunch of statistics and refer to his experience, and Palin is going to deliver some nice-sounding lofty platitudes. Basically, it's going to be the reverse of the 1st McCain-Obama debate, except the media will still declare the democrats to be the winners.

[SumItUp]

What's going to happen is no one is going to stumble... Biden is going to use a bunch of statistics and refer to his experience, and Palin is going to deliver some nice-sounding lofty platitudes. Basically, it's going to be the reverse of the 1st McCain-Obama debate, except the media will still declare the democrats to be the winners.

Generally, I agree with you except you forgot the WILDCARD. Joe Biden is going to have to OPEN his mouth during the debate which is bound to create a Youtube moment that causes Axelrod's hemorrhoids to flare up.

[Ed Dantes]

What's going to happen is no one is going to stumble... Biden is going to use a bunch of statistics and refer to his experience, and Palin is going to deliver some nice-sounding lofty platitudes. Basically, it's going to be the reverse of the 1st McCain-Obama debate, except the media will still declare the democrats to be the winners.

Generally, I agree with you except you forgot the WILDCARD. Joe Biden is going to have to OPEN his mouth during the debate which is bound to create a Youtube moment that causes Axelrod's hemorrhoids to flare up.

Like what, saying all Indians work at 7-11? Misstating history? Plagiarizing? Telling a guy in a wheelchair to stand up? Lying about being under fire? Frankly, he's done all that, and the media has yawned. Look at the 'lipstick on a pig' comment Obama made. That thing was grudgingly covered, and buried as soon as the media could get it behind them.

[Hold My Own]

But none of those things happened with most of the nation watching....



Most American's believe the spin they see on the news...but when they witness something first hand even the news cant change what they saw and heard



With that said, I dont think Biden will make a youtube moment sadly enough...even he's not that stupid


But maybe we'll have a Jack Nickelson moment like on A Few Good Men where He wants to say it

[Hold My Own]

Who won? I was out for pretty much all of it and forgot to Tivo it

[ATrain]

Who won? I was out for pretty much all of it and forgot to Tivo it

Who cares, is it really going to change who you or anyone on here is going to vote for?

[Sly Fox]

From what I saw neither man won anything. It was extremely boring.

[Hold My Own]

By no means me...I want to hear the opinions of others to get a sense of what the polls should indicate.

[newandimproved]

boring?? good...glad I decided not to watch it

[Hold My Own]

From what I saw neither man won anything. It was extremely boring.

aka not good and we're going to lose

[givemethemic]

I watched the whole thing and I thought Obama looked pretty impressive... compared to the last debate.. But all in all wasn't really many earth shattering moments

[JDUB]

mccain is toast. the media is in obamas pants and not even trying to hide it, so all the american people see is a constant flow of obama and his ideas. its all propaganda.

there goes the middle class
there goes our tax cuts
there goes our guns
there goes free enterprise
there goes america as we know it

[givemethemic]

It didn't hurt that Obama stayed around 20 mins and talked with the crowd while McCain bounced right away... I watched MSNBC tonight and still am and they are just killing McCain!!!! From every angle.. They said he didn't even use the word middleclass once..

[Hold My Own]

It didn't hurt that Obama stayed around 20 mins and talked with the crowd while McCain bounced right away... I watched MSNBC tonight and still am and they are just killing McCain!!!! From every angle.. They said he didn't even use the word middleclass once..

That's MSNBC though, the same channel that had to "reassign" (aka fire) two people b/c they were spewing so much pro Obama things they had to be on payroll



either way it sucks and we lose