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By thepostman
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they probably are just poling the nuts, right?? :D

oh and PS why would people hate you for actually stating the truth? Ron Paul doesn't have a chance...I just disagree with your view on him and his supporters...
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By jbock13
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Once again I'll remind you I agree with 95% of his ideas. But as for the majority of his supporters, you're right that we'll have to disagree with that because while not all are nutballs (as you aren't), I have had so many annoying conflicts with Ron Paul supports whom if a disagree with a single issue on, I'm labeled as "unpatrotic" and etc.

To tell you the truth, I'm pretty dissapointed with the field right now and I may end up voting for Paul.
By LUconn
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zombie Thomas Jefferson couldn't do those things. The president is not a King. All Paul would do is bring about gridlock. Which is not a bad thing I guess but lets not act like it's an overthrow.
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By jbock13
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BuryYourDuke wrote:The reason Dr. Paul's supporters are so passionate and seem crazy to you is because they realize that he is the only candidate that would actually change anything at all. We don't accept the other candidates as legitimate options at all because we've seen how no matter who gets elected the same agenda continually gets pushed forward with slightly different rhetoric. We're tired of war, we're tired of government intrusion into our lives, and we're tired of being made poor by an inflationary system. Put simply, no one else out there from either party will do anything to change this except Dr. Paul. One thing I learned when working for his campaign in 08 was how diverse his support is, because freedom and liberty isn't interest group specific. It benefits everyone from the rich to the poor, black and white. He believes in our Lord, and his character and integrity are unmatched in the political world.
I actually really like what you said here. Absolutely the most thoughtful response I've got from a Ron Paul supporter.

If only there were more like you.
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By RubberMallet
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jbock13 wrote: I have had so many annoying conflicts with Ron Paul supports whom if a disagree with a single issue on, I'm labeled as "unpatrotic" and etc.
no. you don't. or you need to stop hanging out with idiots.
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By jbock13
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RubberMallet wrote:
jbock13 wrote: I have had so many annoying conflicts with Ron Paul supports whom if a disagree with a single issue on, I'm labeled as "unpatrotic" and etc.
no. you don't. or you need to stop hanging out with idiots.
I apprechiate being called a liar.
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By jbock13
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back2back wrote:look at all the Mitt Romney supporters now and you will see crazy.
Listening to Rush Limbaugh's show as I do, it's a valid point :lol:

I listen to a lot of talk radio so hear a lot from supporters of certain candidates. Although I consider myself more libertarian than Limbaugh or Levin (I actually can't stand Hannity anymore).
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By jbock13
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back2back wrote:As long as you didnt mention Glen Beck..... :wink:
Yeah... Glenn Beck... he's a piece of work... I'll just say I'm not a fan. But if anybody likes him that's alright.
By thepostman
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i can't stand any of those conservative talk shows....I was about to say and liberal too, but then I realized I don't think I have ever heard one, haha
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By jbock13
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thepostman wrote:i can't stand any of those conservative talk shows....I was about to say and liberal too, but then I realized I don't think I have ever heard one, haha
The ones I like the most are Michael Berry and Jason Lewis. They tend to be more libertarian leaning. Rush and Levin I also like, although I've got some disagreements with a few things they say.

Hannity... to me is too much of a Republican cheerleader.

Boortz is alright. Savage is a goofball.

And liberal talk radio... what's that? :lol:

But that's just my personal take on all the talk show hosts.
By thepostman
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I use to love the savage when I worked nights in lynchburg but haven't listened to him since. And yes hannity is by far the worse host. The people who like him seem like blind republican robots
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Ron Paul leads a Texas poll
With its expanded number of electoral votes and relatively early primary placement, Texas will play a key roll in determining the Republican nominee for 2012. While everyone is watching the early states like New Hampshire and Iowa we’re taking a look at the big states which actually pick the winners.

Poll Date: 5/29-6/3, 2011
Poll Method: Monitored and automated calls
Poll Sample: 882 active Republican voters in Texas
Margin of Error: +/- 2%

Question: If the Texas Republican primary were held today, which presidential candidate would you be most likely to vote for?

Ron Paul – 22%
Rick Perry – 17%
Herman Cain – 14%
Newt Gingrich – 11%
Gary Johnson – 9%
Mitt Romney – 8%
Michele Bachmann – 7%
Tim Pawlenty – 2%
John Huntsman – 2%
Rick Santorum – 1%
Undecided – 7%
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By jbock13
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haha. Get as excited as you want. He still won't win.
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By jbock13
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The fact that Gary Johnson is at 9% leads me to question this poll. I don't even think 5% of Republicans even know who he is.
By ALUmnus
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The problem is this is all pretty much decided before we even get to a place like Texas.
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By Sly Fox
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And for the record, it is looking more & more like Rick Perry is going to run (or at least position himself for 2016). He has organized a big day of prayer & fasting at Reliant Stadium here in Houston on August 6th. He is pushing hard to establish his Evangelical credentials since the field is frankly lacking in that category.
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By jbock13
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One problem for Republicans is the way the primary system is right now. Sure each state has its quirks, but here's just my opinion on why its so hard for true conservatives/libertarians to get the nomination.

Iowa = lots of farming subsidies.
New Hampshire = moderates, plenty of RINO's.
South Carolina = they tend to have RINO issues (see Lyndsay Graham)
Florida = lots of retirees, those who depend of the government for social security.

That's just my take on it. A conservative can still win but its difficult to win these 4 first contests, but unfortunately as we know we have too many Republicans who are afraid to stand up for what they believe in, and make the choices we need to make to save this nation.

I can't stand democrats, but at least I admire that they stand up for what they believe. When's the last time you've heard someone called a DINO?
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I disagree with you bjock31 on Democrats standing up for what they believe in - see Clinton re: Healthcare and Obama's record on bringing military involvement compared to what he said in the campaign. Democrats generally have their finger in the wind all the time and leave a lot of room for movement on the issues. Not saying most Republicans are better but that they all stink, IMHO. They want to be elected and will do what it takes.
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I'm so over the republican party for all the talk of republicans and balancing the budget have you ever looked at the national debt broken down by president? Heck even Regan still ran up the national debt. Paul seems to be the only rep one crazy enough to do something about the debt other than that, if you really care about the debt issues in the US maybe you should vote democrat (although Obama seems to be bucking the trend).

definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

yes its wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_d ... tial_terms
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Sly Fox wrote:And for the record, it is looking more & more like Rick Perry is going to run (or at least position himself for 2016). He has organized a big day of prayer & fasting at Reliant Stadium here in Houston on August 6th. He is pushing hard to establish his Evangelical credentials since the field is frankly lacking in that category.
Don't care how much he prays, anyone who any concerns whatsoever about the national deficit has no business voting for Rick Perry...
He began his political career as a Democrat in 1984 in the Texas House. Way back in 1988, he supported Al Gore for president. When that didn't work out for him, or Gore, he joined the Republican Party.

Despite the widely held view that Texas is in strong financial shape, the state has severe debt overhang. Since Perry took over as governor in 2000, blame for the current debt situation can be place at his feet.

While not raising the sales tax in Texas (Texas has no income tax). He raised just about every other fee and tax he could think of, including a surcharge on traffic violations. He also borrowed money for road bonds and borrowed from the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund.

In 2003, he launched the Texas Enterprise Fund, he quickly, in 2004, gave $20 million to Countrywide Financial, the mortgage creating machine that was a major player in subprime, no docs mortgages.

Depending how it is calculated, the debt of the state of Texas could be considered as high as $269 billion, which on a per citizen basis is $10,644 and is higher than even the $9,931 per citizen debt in the state of California.

In 2000, when Perry first became governor, total spending by the state of Texas was $49 billion. At the end of 2010, it was $90 billion.
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Covert Hawk wrote:
Sly Fox wrote:And for the record, it is looking more & more like Rick Perry is going to run (or at least position himself for 2016). He has organized a big day of prayer & fasting at Reliant Stadium here in Houston on August 6th. He is pushing hard to establish his Evangelical credentials since the field is frankly lacking in that category.
Don't care how much he prays, anyone who any concerns whatsoever about the national deficit has no business voting for Rick Perry...
He began his political career as a Democrat in 1984 in the Texas House. Way back in 1988, he supported Al Gore for president. When that didn't work out for him, or Gore, he joined the Republican Party.

Despite the widely held view that Texas is in strong financial shape, the state has severe debt overhang. Since Perry took over as governor in 2000, blame for the current debt situation can be place at his feet.

While not raising the sales tax in Texas (Texas has no income tax). He raised just about every other fee and tax he could think of, including a surcharge on traffic violations. He also borrowed money for road bonds and borrowed from the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund.

In 2003, he launched the Texas Enterprise Fund, he quickly, in 2004, gave $20 million to Countrywide Financial, the mortgage creating machine that was a major player in subprime, no docs mortgages.

Depending how it is calculated, the debt of the state of Texas could be considered as high as $269 billion, which on a per citizen basis is $10,644 and is higher than even the $9,931 per citizen debt in the state of California.

In 2000, when Perry first became governor, total spending by the state of Texas was $49 billion. At the end of 2010, it was $90 billion.
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Besides we all know who has the best Evangelical credentials
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