[lynchburgwildcats]

I would agree with you Haize except that I think in the time since that first incident, wouldn't he have followed up with those he reported it to? Wouldn't he have questioned why Sandusky was still walking around a free man and wouldn't he have wondered why Sandusky was still working with kids and bringing them on campus? I believe he probably turned a blind eye to it to protect the image of his program and school. And that was wrong, big time. And he carried the weight to make something happened if he thought it should have been done.

That is also a possibility. He also could have assumed that since he was walking around and since he was not a member of his staff that things were resolved. Also, these are pretty horrific charges and it is just as easy to believe that he couldn't wrap his arms around it. Seeing him walk around it would be easier to believe that it was all a misunderstanding as opposed to a cover up in his mind.
I will agree that a small percentage of it was motivated by protecting the image of the school but that could also stem from the possibility of the damage to its image if the charges proved false. That is why, IMO, that AFTER reading the whole indictment he said he should have done more.
But he was not the one who molested those children and again IMO he was not the one enabling it to continue. He did what was reasonable to expect anyone to do.

What do you have to say then to the fact that Paterno willingly allowed Sandusky to come to his practices and what not with children, after the school clearly stated he was not allowed on campus with children? Sure the rule is pretty hard to enforce, but the dude had the gall to come to PSU practices and other football functions in blatant defiance of the rule yet Paterno did nothing. Paterno turned a blind eye to the guy...

[4everfsu]

McQueary is there because he's still the eyewitness. He's still there because he's likely got more on PSU if he was willing to take promotions and ignore Sandusky bringing kids to PSU practices up until 2007. I'd be willing to bet a huge severance package is being put together for McQueary to keep him from speaking about the issue publicly when he is let go.

Paterno is gone because, as the grand jury testimony says, he was told that something "fondling or of a sexual nature" took place and he did jack squat about it. Considering he's the king of PSU and there is stuff back to at least 1994 about Sandusky, it's reprehensible that Paterno let this guy keep an office on campus and have access to football facilities until last week. It's literally impossible for Paterno to not have known, at least as a concept, what was going on. Paterno deserves to have lost his job and he deserves every bit of disgust that he's being viewed with now.

+1

[jbock13]

I love how all of you are in a mad dash to sound more outraged and indignant than the other.

Glad you feel so great about yourselves.

[4everfsu]

I bet I am feeling better about myself then JoePa is feeling about himself.

[Stevewalt]

I would hope you feel better about yourself too unless you were aware of the accusations of the case before they came out!

Again you are all surmising off of a summary of the GJ report! I am not looking at it through blue and white eyes I am looking at it as there is more to this story than we know and public opinion should not destroy someone life when we don't know it all.

You say he left Sandusky on his sidelines during practices and what about all the other people on the sidelines? Joe knew of the infractions but not exactly what they were from the report. again I say if you took it to your supervisor and was told they will handle the investigation and you saw him again on campus (whether you want to believe it or not he did have supervisors, don't believe all the reports that PSU was Joe's domain that is false, that was built up by the media in and around State College, he only had the comfort of saying when he would retire because of his legendary status which is now tarnished) you would think nothing but he came out exonerated. What about if Joe questioned this after the fact too and was told it is handled and to go about business as usual by his bosses? It was the Athletic deptartment that gave him his office not Joe, it was the athletic department that gave him sideline passes not Joe. As facts come forward we will know better. If Joe and McQueary knew of things and did nothing I will be the first to say that is total BS and they needed to be fired imeediately and maybe more depending on how deep into the whole matter they are.

I again, believe it was right to fire Joe (he should have stepped down immediately personally speaking) but they should have brought him in to tell him face to face and not over the phone!

[LCA&LU Mom]

First Penn State de-commit:
Joey O'Connor, a 6-foot-5, 297-pound senior, told the newspaper Thursday that he had de-committed so he could focus on the rest of his high school season with Windsor High.

O'Connor is one of the country's best high school offensive tackles and was considered the Nittany Lions top recruit.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/1 ... z1dQAukkj4

[NotAJerry]

http://deadspin.com/5858636/a-penn-stat ... econd-mile

That's right, one of the PSU attorneys that looked into the '98 Sandusky allegations also represented Sandusky's charity. This whole thing stinks worse by the moment. Nothing will surprise me at this point. How much do you want to bet that the PA bar will be sniffing around this particular attorney now?

The longer this investigation goes, the more stuff we are going to learn that makes it obvious too many people knew or heard things that the way these incidents and his retirement were handled were not coincidental. They may never prove there was an express cover-up, but the facts are going to suggest it was.

There's a reason why the "best assistant coach in the country" and the heir apparent to Joe Paterno NEVER got another coaching job.

[Sly Fox]

There's a reason why the "best assistant coach in the country" and the heir apparent to Joe Paterno NEVER got another coaching job.

To me this is the #1 reason why I don't buy this position that Paterno is now taking that he knew nothing. That coaching transition where a guy in his Mid-50s "retires" and doesn't get a shot to coach anywhere else creams that there is much more to this than Joe Pa will admit.

[NotAJerry]

What do you have to say then to the fact that Paterno willingly allowed Sandusky to come to his practices and what not with children, after the school clearly stated he was not allowed on campus with children? Sure the rule is pretty hard to enforce, but the dude had the gall to come to PSU practices and other football functions in blatant defiance of the rule yet Paterno did nothing. Paterno turned a blind eye to the guy...

Exactly. You have to take some giant leaps to think that Paterno was unaware and not an enabler in this mess.

[NotAJerry]

You say he left Sandusky on his sidelines during practices and what about all the other people on the sidelines? Joe knew of the infractions but not exactly what they were from the report.

Nonsense. The GJ report clearly states that what Paterno reported to the AD was that Sandusky was seen by a GA engaging in fondling or some sexual act with a minor in the PSU football shower. That's more than enough to Paterno, with definite knowledge of the 94 accusations and the 98 investigation, to take things farther than he did. Paterno put protecting the image of his kingdom over doing what was clearly right.

[jbock13]

lol you just cited deadspin. Not a creible source my friend.

[Stevewalt]

NotaJerry- I stand corrected, he did report that there was fondling or something of sexual nature. I am sorry I misspoke and admit my mistake. *I reread Joe's statement in the report online

And I agree when all the facts come out if it means they put the football team ahead of a childs well being I will be the first to say JoePa was and is a slim ball. But I still want to see the facts before making a judgement.

[4everfsu]

http://deadspin.com/5858636/a-penn-stat ... econd-mile

That's right, one of the PSU attorneys that looked into the '98 Sandusky allegations also represented Sandusky's charity. This whole thing stinks worse by the moment. Nothing will surprise me at this point. How much do you want to bet that the PA bar will be sniffing around this particular attorney now?

The longer this investigation goes, the more stuff we are going to learn that makes it obvious too many people knew or heard things that the way these incidents and his retirement were handled were not coincidental. They may never prove there was an express cover-up, but the facts are going to suggest it was.

There's a reason why the "best assistant coach in the country" and the heir apparent to Joe Paterno NEVER got another coaching job.

I read a story yesterday that the school pres and JoePa tried to get Sandusky picked as HC at some PSU satellite branch new startup football program,Div III. He was not selected.

[jbock13]

i think that there is a massive international global conspiracy to cover up this incident. The Freemasons are probably behind it.

[4everfsu]

I was thinking more along the line of PSU mafia.

[4everfsu]

I also wonder if other states like Tx, Fl , etc can prosecute Sandusky since he took minors over state lines and molested them there. He has taken kids to bowl games with PSU to those two states.

[thepostman]

I can tell that jbock is exactly how I was when I was still in school...lets try to find the few that will anger the most people and stick with it no matter how ridiculous it may be. You'll outgrow it soon enough. In the mean time you can continue to look foolish.

With that said I do think there is to much focus on JoePa but he ran that school's athletic program so it is to be expected, but Jbock you're sounding about as brainwashed as the rest of the Penn State student body.

[NotAJerry]

Barry Switzer had a good comment on this, given his perspective as a former collegiate head coach. He said there was absolutely no chance, none, that everyone on that coaching staff didn't know what had happened or what was going on with Sandusky.

[4everfsu]

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... _sand.html

[4everfsu]

The asst coach is now placed on leave..

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... ident-says

[lynchburgwildcats]

lol you just cited deadspin. Not a creible source my friend.

And if you would have even attempted read the article, you would notice that there are references to the attorney's own website showing he represented both. There are also references to law.com and to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette where the Penn. Attorney General confirms some of the details.

Don't let facts get in the way of your idiotic agenda though...

[NotAJerry]

lol you just cited deadspin. Not a creible source my friend.

And if you would have even attempted read the article, you would notice that there are references to the attorney's own website showing he represented both. There are also references to law.com and to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette where the Penn. Attorney General confirms some of the details.

Don't let facts get in the way of your idiotic agenda though...

Once again, there's a reason why jbock is the only person here I have on ignore.

[jbock13]

haha I love you all too.

What idiotic agenda? The fact that I have the audacity to believe that Joe Paterno was unfairly treated?

I don't ask for you to believe what I say. I do ask that my opinion, along with the opinions of others, be respected.

[thepostman]

I just think you go with whatever view will get the most reaction.

Has JoePa been treated unfairly by the media? Yes ,because the focus should be on the true monster

Is JoePa being treated unfairly by Penn State? No way

[Purple Haize]

McQueary is there because he's still the eyewitness. He's still there because he's likely got more on PSU if he was willing to take promotions and ignore Sandusky bringing kids to PSU practices up until 2007. I'd be willing to bet a huge severance package is being put together for McQueary to keep him from speaking about the issue publicly when he is let go.

Paterno is gone because, as the grand jury testimony says, he was told that something "fondling or of a sexual nature" took place and he did jack squat about it. Considering he's the king of PSU and there is stuff back to at least 1994 about Sandusky, it's reprehensible that Paterno let this guy keep an office on campus and have access to football facilities until last week. It's literally impossible for Paterno to not have known, at least as a concept, what was going on. Paterno deserves to have lost his job and he deserves every bit of disgust that he's being viewed with now.

The Grand Jury found nothing wrong with his testimony.
Paterno did do something about it when he accompanied the GA to the proper administrative office to report the incident
Sandusky was not on Paterno's staff when the GA approached him
The University (and teacher union) were responsible for him having an on campus office and the use of university and athletic fields
It is not impossible that he did not have a concept of what was happening. There are things I know about friends and colleagues that still baffle me.
I think the service and dedication and commitment he gave the university earns him the benefit of the doubt and that he should have been allowed to finish the season.

Another point I do find interesting is that ex players speak glowingly about Paterno, but I hear former players say they didnt keep in contact much with Sandusky.