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By thepostman
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jbock13 wrote:Logic of a typical Ron Paul supporter: Ron Paul is God. Everyone else is the devil.

Hopefully I'm narrowed it down for you. The problem with Ron Paul is... his followers.
you are so quick to come down on anybody that says anything bad about Palin but you walk the fox news lines on everything Ron Paul?? What is more pathetic?

To me the man who isn't liked by either side is the man to take a closer look at. Stop reading your republican blogs and get in the real world here...

Yes there are many ron paul supporters that are insane, its true...but most of is supporters are not.

I am actually in the military and actually deal with the realities of this countries foreign policies and would love to see a new direction that actually makes sense....Keep this country safe without getting involved with every conflict possible to keep the private defense machine running...sounds so crazy huh?? oh wait, it makes sense...heaven forbid

It is so easy for people to blindly accept the status quo of our foreign policies when they don't live with the realities of these policies....

I will keep it at that...but I look forward to your fox news answer. It should be a good one
By alum82
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My earlier post revised:

First choice - ANYBODY BUT OBAMA

Second choice - Rick Perry

Third choice - any pro-life, pro-traditional marriage libertarian with some measure of credibility
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By jbock13
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thepostman wrote:
jbock13 wrote:Logic of a typical Ron Paul supporter: Ron Paul is God. Everyone else is the devil.

Hopefully I'm narrowed it down for you. The problem with Ron Paul is... his followers.
you are so quick to come down on anybody that says anything bad about Palin but you walk the fox news lines on everything Ron Paul?? What is more pathetic?

To me the man who isn't liked by either side is the man to take a closer look at. Stop reading your republican blogs and get in the real world here...

Yes there are many ron paul supporters that are insane, its true...but most of is supporters are not.

I am actually in the military and actually deal with the realities of this countries foreign policies and would love to see a new direction that actually makes sense....Keep this country safe without getting involved with every conflict possible to keep the private defense machine running...sounds so crazy huh?? oh wait, it makes sense...heaven forbid

It is so easy for people to blindly accept the status quo of our foreign policies when they don't live with the realities of these policies....

I will keep it at that...but I look forward to your fox news answer. It should be a good one
I'm pretty sure I've said many times I like Ron Paul's ideas. I just don't like his crazy followers. And just because I said that, doesn't mean that you are crazy. You cannot deny that there are some extreme nuts who follow him. More than any other candidate.

Now for my Fox News answer: we should kill every muslim in the world because every muslim is a terrorist. I think that sums up Fox quite nicely. :)
By ALUmnus
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thepostman wrote:I am actually in the military and actually deal with the realities of this countries foreign policies and would love to see a new direction that actually makes sense....Keep this country safe without getting involved with every conflict possible to keep the private defense machine running...sounds so crazy huh?? oh wait, it makes sense...heaven forbid

It is so easy for people to blindly accept the status quo of our foreign policies when they don't live with the realities of these policies....
Members of the military have their opinions just like everyone else. That's what your statement is, an opinion. Being in the military doesn't by default make your foreign policy opinions right.
By thepostman
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Of course its just an opinion but people who aren't in it everyday and see certain policies at work on a daily basis so therefore its much easier for them to accept certain things. Don't get me wrong I do not completely agree with ron paul's ideas but I do think the middle ground from where we are right now and his ideas is a hell of a good place to be.
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By jbock13
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Let me say this... I haven't ruled out the possibility of voting for Paul during the primary (depending how those shake out). I like him because I feel that his financial policies (regarding our debt), and domestic policies I agree with.

But what is with his wild, fanatic supporters? I mean literally I've ran into so many Paul supporters, and if you dare to disagree with 1 point out of like 235, you're labeled a "sell out", "not a patriot", etc. What is Paul doing that attracts these moonbats so much?
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By RubberMallet
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jbock13 wrote:Let me say this... I haven't ruled out the possibility of voting for Paul during the primary (depending how those shake out). I like him because I feel that his financial policies (regarding our debt), and domestic policies I agree with.

But what is with his wild, fanatic supporters? I mean literally I've ran into so many Paul supporters, and if you dare to disagree with 1 point out of like 235, you're labeled a "sell out", "not a patriot", etc. What is Paul doing that attracts these moonbats so much?
who cares? why is this a big deal to you? lmao. how are they any different the the GOP fox news parrots you run into every day. their day is consumed with birth certificates and making sure you know that obama really didn't have much to do with the death of osama.
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By jbock13
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RubberMallet wrote: how are they any different the the GOP fox news parrots you run into every day. their day is consumed with birth certificates and making sure you know that obama really didn't have much to do with the death of osama.
I agree. I just find it kind of typical that just because I point out the Ron Paul oddballs, I'm automatically called a Fox News parrot. I know you didn't call me that directly, but it's another thing I've heard from them (also postman made a reference to that).

At the very least I can say I could support Paul because he will do what he says he will do if elected. That's the number 1 thing I could admire about any elected official.
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By RubberMallet
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just pointing out that its easy to see someone who's passionate about something you might not agree with as fanaticism.
By thepostman
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jbock13 wrote:Let me say this... I haven't ruled out the possibility of voting for Paul during the primary (depending how those shake out). I like him because I feel that his financial policies (regarding our debt), and domestic policies I agree with.

But what is with his wild, fanatic supporters? I mean literally I've ran into so many Paul supporters, and if you dare to disagree with 1 point out of like 235, you're labeled a "sell out", "not a patriot", etc. What is Paul doing that attracts these moonbats so much?
get out more then...I have never met a ron paul supporter anywhere close to as crazy as the ones they talk about on tv...yes most of his supporters are very loyal and sometimes have a hard time putting aside their loyalty and take a step back but thats absolutely no different then the majority of people who are hardcore into politics
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By jbock13
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thepostman wrote: get out more then...I have never met a ron paul supporter anywhere close to as crazy as the ones they talk about on tv.
You're kidding right? Either that or for some reason they keep bumping into me...

I can just tell you in talking to others in the political rhelm, I'm definitely not the only one who has experience with this.
By thepostman
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people in the political realm? What exactly does that mean??

I don't think Ron Paul is the be all when it comes to "saving" our country but I just wish more people had his views in the party I once was a member of. His values are the values I thought republicans were all about. How am I wrong?

The reason why Paul's supporters are painted in such a negative light by people in the "political realm" is because its really the only political tool they have to attack him and its a very weak argument. That is my point...people spend more time talking about people supporting Ron Paul then Ron Paul himself because there isn't much to say...
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By RubberMallet
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the political realm is in between mount erebor and tar valon past the stormwal mountains. you have to preorder minecraft in order to get there.
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By jbock13
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Never mind, I think the Fort Knox conspiracy theory that Paul talked about, I think that explains the crazy supporters...
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By jbock13
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thepostman wrote:I think its funny you still think that paul is still the only one with crazy supporters.
Well in that case, who else has crazy supporters? (Okay, perhaps Obama) :D
By thepostman
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by you definition of crazy supporters...everybody...their supporters think their candidate is the guy and thinks anybody that disagrees is completely and utterly wrong and will argue why...
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By jbock13
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thepostman wrote:by you definition of crazy supporters...everybody...their supporters think their candidate is the guy and thinks anybody that disagrees is completely and utterly wrong and will argue why...
Not so. I don't support any candidate right now. I'm not against any candidate (except Newt). Yeah I like Sarah Palin but even I know she can't beat Obama.
By thepostman
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I am saying everybody who is a hardcore supporter of somebody by your definition would be wack jobs which I actually don't disagree with but my point isn't that ron paul or any other politicians don't have their crazy followers, my point is that they all have their crazy followers who can't even imagine why people would disagree with their guy/woman...and if you don't see that then I guess you and I won't agree on this which is fine...I just think its ridiculous...
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By jbock13
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thepostman wrote:I am saying everybody who is a hardcore supporter of somebody by your definition would be wack jobs which I actually don't disagree with but my point isn't that ron paul or any other politicians don't have their crazy followers, my point is that they all have their crazy followers who can't even imagine why people would disagree with their guy/woman...and if you don't see that then I guess you and I won't agree on this which is fine...I just think its ridiculous...
Postman, I think we both get frustrated because we agree about 75% of what we say and always pick on the 25% that we disagree on.

I can agree with you except that I'm not saying all hardcore supporters are crazies. But I agree that lots of candidates have some.
By thepostman
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yeah, but its that 25% that baffles me the most. I just wish people would focus on Ron Paul's stances and not on his supporters. It seems to me the people that do that are simply scared of Ron Paul because he views do not support anything close to what either side of the aisle fight for on a daily basis.

Its just the easy thing to do and lazy...that is what some republicans tried to do with obama's supporters and I thought that was stupid too...its so lazy and is irrelevant to any debate because America is filled with crazy people so therefore there are crazies everywhere...
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By Covert Hawk
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Wow. A stunning victory for Ron Paul in the SLRC Poll
Ron Paul, yes, Ron Paul wins another straw poll; grass-roots surge for the Republican?

Another big win for Republican Rep. Ron Paul of Texas today. A runaway win, too.

Paul easily captured the straw poll at a regional Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans, picking up nearly twice as many votes (612) as the second place finisher, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman (382).

Another Republican representative, Michele Bachmann, came in third with 191 votes, and business executive Herman Cain was fourth with 104 votes. No one else topped 100 votes.

Paul also beat out Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Tim Pawlenty and Rick Santorum, among others.
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By jbock13
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Covert Hawk wrote:Wow. A stunning victory for Ron Paul in the SLRC Poll
Ron Paul, yes, Ron Paul wins another straw poll; grass-roots surge for the Republican?

Another big win for Republican Rep. Ron Paul of Texas today. A runaway win, too.

Paul easily captured the straw poll at a regional Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans, picking up nearly twice as many votes (612) as the second place finisher, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman (382).

Another Republican representative, Michele Bachmann, came in third with 191 votes, and business executive Herman Cain was fourth with 104 votes. No one else topped 100 votes.

Paul also beat out Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Tim Pawlenty and Rick Santorum, among others.
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The fact that Jon Huntsman came in 2nd scares me. This guy is no good.

But come on, Ron Paul has no chance at winning the primary. You can hate me for saying it, but we all know its true.
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