[LUconn]

I think this will be one of the last great dramas on network TV. AMC is absolutely bringing the heat these days and have more coming down the pike. Not to mention FX has really good stuff too. The subject matter that they are allowed to tackle that networks are not will leave us with junk like 10 CSIs and 30 Law and Orders.

[01LUGrad]

They really should do something like that. Ben was the best character on the show, imo, and Hurley had enough comic presence to make the movie worth-while. If they realize in a year that they could make some quick cash off of it, they would have to do it, right?

[RubberMallet]

are you kidding me. they answer what the "alt timeline" is i guess but thats it. thats it. what a complete failure of a show. even the alt timeline doesn't make sense now. they just live some sort of pseudo life that isn't real until what? it doesn't make sense.

its like it was some huge prank. we still don't know anything about the island.....nothing.....the entire show could of taken place on the set of a trailer park the entire time and this finale would of still "fit"

a dude unplugged a hole in the island and let out light....THEN another dude plugged it back in and everything was dandy again. you have got to be kidding me.

[RubberMallet]

as i was brushing my teeth and had more time to think....

it was a good episode it was just a bad ending. its a copout ending....i feel like they had no idea how to end this and in this way, they didn't have to answer nothing, just make it about the characters, rushing them through "remembering" and then say that it was all about the characters anyway and that all the other stuff didn't matter. but it does. there is no way for it not to. the way smoke monster dies, gay. remember the "if he leaves everything is over"? stuff? how did it matter? we don't know. there is no resolution to the problem of the island other than the main characters die or live out their lives and then die and then meet again in some pseudo existance until the "go home". and not even that is explained. jacks dad just talks in complete vagueness of half answers.

"hey wait, what about mib ending ever-....oh kate finally told jack she loved him WHAT A GREAT FINALE.....but wait, what about the light what is i- oh look juliet and sawyer back together WHAT A PHENOMINAL FINALE"

[ALUmnus]

Your teeth must have been really dirty.

I've liked the ending more and more, because it makes sense, and it is an end. It fits. Of course I would have loved a million more answers, but to answer everything the show would have had to go on for a few more seasons. Lost proposed tons of questions, but the questions and answers were to move the story along to a conclusion, and it had to be a well-written, smart, compelling story, which I think it was, more than any television show I've ever seen. You can't get all cranky because it didn't give you everything you could have possibly wanted, because that would have been near impossible (remember, a lot of the questions that have been answered weren't even answered on the show but in the online game/alternate websites). It was still the best show I've ever watched, and for me that was the success.

The real test will be this...if you were to watch it over again from the beginning, would everything make sense? It might not, especially since some of the elements were out of their control (situations with the actors, ie. Walt, Eko, etc). Just like in real life, you will always have questions, but you will never have all the answers, because then you'd be God. But it was still an amazing show and I didn't want it to end.

[LUconn]

as i was brushing my teeth and had more time to think....

it was a good episode it was just a bad ending. its a copout ending....i feel like they had no idea how to end this and in this way, they didn't have to answer nothing, just make it about the characters, rushing them through "remembering" and then say that it was all about the characters anyway and that all the other stuff didn't matter. but it does. there is no way for it not to. the way smoke monster dies, gay. remember the "if he leaves everything is over"? stuff? how did it matter? we don't know. there is no resolution to the problem of the island other than the main characters die or live out their lives and then die and then meet again in some pseudo existance until the "go home". and not even that is explained. jacks dad just talks in complete vagueness of half answers.

"hey wait, what about mib ending ever-....oh kate finally told jack she loved him WHAT A GREAT FINALE.....but wait, what about the light what is i- oh look juliet and sawyer back together WHAT A PHENOMINAL FINALE"

As annoying as it is, the story is better off not having answered those things. What could they have possibly said about what the light is that either would have been hokey OR just brought up further questions. It's the exact situation as when they tried to give us Jacob's origin. It just pushed the same questions back a generation and nobody was happy and they're certainly not going to make up some mythological creation story of the island. You just have to accept that the island has no rational explanation and was the vehicle to tell us an interesting story about these characters.


My opinion is, the writers had an original plan in the beginning that they actually did die in the plane crash and 5 seasons later, we'd find out that the island was purgatory. It was quickly figured out, and then denied so they had to scrap that idea after one season. But we still ended up with a similar explanation, just one that leaves a lot more questions than the original.

[RubberMallet]

i dont' want answers to everything. i want to know what the island is and its history thats not a hard thing to answer...i don't want some idiots on a lost message board to attempt to spell it out. i want it explained to me. thats not so much to ask. they could of taken 15 minutes to answer. instead they put a fluffy love reunion together over anything of substance and create some coexist religion where its all about your soulmates.

they abandoned story lines they themselves set up and could not resolve. they didn't even attempt to. its like leaving the entire last chapter of "great expectations" out. and then adding in, "and then they all died and went to purgatory"

[RubberMallet]

As annoying as it is, the story is better off not having answered those things. What could they have possibly said about what the light is that either would have been hokey OR just brought up further questions. It's the exact situation as when they tried to give us Jacob's origin. It just pushed the same questions back a generation and nobody was happy and they're certainly not going to make up some mythological creation story of the island. You just have to accept that the island has no rational explanation and was the vehicle to tell us an interesting story about these characters.

really? more hokey than this finale? and it was more than a vehicle. i accept that they are bad writers and that the island WAS only a vehicle to the story. the problem is they took too long to reveal the creation of the island. everything in the last episodes was a rush rush cheesey crapfest. the way they all remember was rushed and terrible. i'd of much rather had island answers. i look at it it this way, if this were a book, it would get ripped to shreds by its reviewers. have their been worse books? sure but in the end if you don't give 2 rips about the love triangle coming full circle you get totally screwed.

[LUconn]

the only problem I had with it, was in the first few seasons I trusted the writers who assured us that they knew what they were doing and had rational or psuedo-scientific answers for everything. I think that's what made the show so compelling in the beginning. Luckily I was into the show by the time I gave up on that and knew they couldn't explain anything other than deus ex machina type explanations. So I don't like being tricked like that, but when I look back on the series, I enjoyed the entire thing.

[RubberMallet]

the only problem I had with it, was in the first few seasons I trusted the writers who assured us that they knew what they were doing and had rational or psuedo-scientific answers for everything. I think that's what made the show so compelling in the beginning. Luckily I was into the show by the time I gave up on that and knew they couldn't explain anything other than deus ex machina type explanations. So I don't like being tricked like that, but when I look back on the series, I enjoyed the entire thing.

i agree with all of this. i think i'll grow to accept the ending now that is what it is. i certainly didn't like the 6th season all that much. too much fluff and not enough substance.

[ALUmnus]

This entire final season was orchestrated to lead up to this series finale, which was 2.5 hours! That's rushed? They had to end it this year. The remembering part was the end, you can't really start that earlier than the finale.

The writers had begun to write a story that was too big for them to be able to finish adequately, I thought they made the best of it. They were going to step in a trap no matter what they did.

They have also said repeatedly that they always knew how they wanted it to end. Now whether you believe that or not is up to you. But if that's true, then really no matter what else happened, this was always the ending you were going to get.

I read somewhere that there will be additional things answered on the DVD, suprise!

[RubberMallet]

This entire final season was orchestrated to lead up to this series finale, which was 2.5 hours! That's rushed? They had to end it this year. The remembering part was the end, you can't really start that earlier than the finale.

The writers had begun to write a story that was too big for them to be able to finish adequately, I thought they made the best of it. They were going to step in a trap no matter what they did.

I read somewhere that there will be additional things answered on the DVD, suprise!

I didn't get into the show because of the characters. I got into it for the quasi sci fi feel to it. That feel was gone by season 6. And yes the remembering parts were so hokey and Disney. I don't know how else to describe it. You just said it yourself the entire season six was one big setup.

[RubberMallet]

the goods

http://gawker.com/5545877/the-lost-fina ... dibly-dumb

[ALUmnus]

Gawker and all it's minions have one purpose in life, to trash everything. That piece was written by a 15-year-old who apparently never even liked the show to begin with, only the idea of the show.

Like I said, at first, I didn't get the ending. But the more I thought about it, if they're going to end things, I'm fine with them ending it like that.

[RubberMallet]

Gawker and all it's minions have one purpose in life, to trash everything. That piece was written by a 15-year-old who apparently never even liked the show to begin with, only the idea of the show.

Like I said, at first, I didn't get the ending. But the more I thought about it, if they're going to end things, I'm fine with them ending it like that.

i get it....it just fit wisteria lane more than it did the island.

[ALUmnus]

Interesting thought, from Dan Phillips (who didn't like the last episode):
http://teampyro.blogspot.com/

But for now... the last episode was the first "Lost" episode that ever really let me down.

I've grown accustomed, though, to human writers setting up conundrums they can't solve fully or satisfactorily, so I tempered my expectations... to some degree. Whether Stephen King, C. S. Lewis, J. R. R. Tolkien, Tad Williams, Joss Whedon, Stephen Donaldson, or on and on, I think humans create better dilemmas than they do solutions. In at least some cases, the authors themselves did not know how their stories were going to end when they started them rolling. Sometimes that shows.

But whether carefully planned, or made up on the wing, I can't offhand recall any really ambitious saga whose dénouement left me fully satisfied.

Where the heck did the other Lost fans go on this board?

[RubberMallet]

other authors/writers being bad is an unnacceptable excuse.

where did everyone go.

i even lowered my expectations for this one....i realized i wasn't going to get alot of the answers i wanted and was ok with it to an extent.....but when christian opened the door and it was white i was like this isn't real...this isnt' it.

[RubberMallet]

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291

[Kolzilla41]

Haven't read the previous two pages but I am watching the finale now.

[Kolzilla41]

So we're they dead from the beginning. I have so many other questions. This ending sucked!

[LUconn]

So we're they dead from the beginning.

NO

[RubberMallet]

luconn is correct....the sideways flash's were really a flash forward to a time when all of them have died and before moving on have to experience some "remembering" to be able to move on to some other place that we don't know about.

[Kolzilla41]

So the Island was "real time" and the sideways/flashes were the purgatory/dying life?

[RubberMallet]

So the Island was "real time" and the sideways/flashes were the purgatory/dying life?

si.

[Libertine]

How "Lost" should have ended