[NotAJerry]

http://www.cultofmac.com/192350/how-app ... ing-apple/

There's a word or two that will offend folks in this article, but Mike Elgan nails it on why the Apple Maps App is a horrendous failure and a sign of a much deeper problem starting to take root with Apple (again).

[jbock13]

I have to say I'm not really a fan of Apple maps either. Having scenery option is a major problem. It also doesn't show minor streets well either.

[El Scorcho]

When you are in the walled garden, 3rd party keyboards and browsers are far too scary to ever experience. Only Apple is safe to trust.

MIght want to dial it back a notch or two there, Foxy.

[Sly Fox]

I thought it was shoed away on iPhone 5 along with Google Maps. I apologize for my overstatement.

[adam42381]

El Scorcho, are you running Chrome as your primary browser? I'm interested in knowing if I should make the transition from Safari on my 4s running iOS 6.

[lynchburgwildcats]

When you are in the walled garden, 3rd party keyboards and browsers are far too scary to ever experience. Only Apple is safe to trust.

MIght want to dial it back a notch or two there, Foxy.

However, like Apple requires for every other web browser on iOS, it has to be built on Apple's webkit, the same platform for Safari on iOS. So it's not a "pure" Chrome browser.

All the browsers in the app store amount to nothing more than an extension or plug-in to Safari. They don't really present any major performance improvements over Safari because they are all based on webkit. In fact, Chrome on iOS actually tests out worse than Safari for performance. The only way you'll get any noticeable web browsing performance improvement on iOS is if Apple wants to make it happen.

Unlike on Android when you can download a different web browser based on a different foundation from the stock browser to get a performance improvement. For example, Dolphin Browser Beta for Android tests out as the top web browser on any mobile or desktop platform for HTML5. Safari on iOS 6.0 got a score of 360 (out of 500) on the HTML5 test. Dolphin Engine Beta got a 450. That's the best score on record of a stock browser (meaning as is when installed with no setting changes or addition of extensions or plugins) for the test on any OS, rather it be mobile or desktop.

[lynchburgwildcats]

http://www.cultofmac.com/192350/how-app ... ing-apple/

There's a word or two that will offend folks in this article, but Mike Elgan nails it on why the Apple Maps App is a horrendous failure and a sign of a much deeper problem starting to take root with Apple (again).

That's what happens when companies let pride get in the way of the big picture.

What would Apple do if Google were to buy Twitter and Facebook. Would they remove the twitter and Facebook integration just because Google would own it?? Shocked Apple hasn't fixed it so that its users can't navigate to google webapps as well. That will probably come in future releases.

[Hold My Own]

Google is making a huge mistake allowing Apple to have Google Now functionality on iOS. They sold millions of phones because of the fraud that SIRI is but now you are simply giving them that ability plus a lot more.

[ALUmnus]

http://www.cultofmac.com/192350/how-app ... ing-apple/

There's a word or two that will offend folks in this article, but Mike Elgan nails it on why the Apple Maps App is a horrendous failure and a sign of a much deeper problem starting to take root with Apple (again).

http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/09/23/apple-maps/

There are a hundred different perspectives out there, just depends on which fanboy is writing it. People are just speculating, and I can't blame them, it's fun to speculate.

[Sly Fox]

HMO - Google has always been about giving away their software to corral traffic. This simply follows that business concept.

I just upgraded to Jelly Bean this morning and I've been testing out Google Now. It seems cool but it doesn't seem like it will be altering anyone's life anytime soon. Then again, if you ask Apple fanboys they will probably still insist that Siri is the greatest innovation in smartphone history.

[NotAJerry]

http://www.cultofmac.com/192350/how-app ... ing-apple/

There's a word or two that will offend folks in this article, but Mike Elgan nails it on why the Apple Maps App is a horrendous failure and a sign of a much deeper problem starting to take root with Apple (again).

http://www.mondaynote.com/2012/09/23/apple-maps/

There are a hundred different perspectives out there, just depends on which fanboy is writing it. People are just speculating, and I can't blame them, it's fun to speculate.

Except for the fact that Mike Elgan has been as pro Apple as it gets when they deserve it. There's no fanboy to his article, just a clear parallel to their current business practices and the ones that nearly put them out of business before.

[Hold My Own]

Sly, make sure you know all of these. Google Now is the single most impressive update I've ever seen and I've personally done every update on every platform known to man....yes, even every iOS update possible (except 6, I havent been able to upgrade that yet...once it's jailbroken I will haha).

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[ALUmnus]

Where would Android be without Wikipedia? How would mankind know anything without Wikipedia? I don't know the answer. Maybe we can ask Siri.

[lynchburgwildcats]

Google Now is neat, but I hardly ever use it on my Nexus 7. There are apps out there that more or less do the same things as google now and more (like vlingo, for example).

[Hold My Own]

Vlingo was the best...until Google Now came out....hands down better. I'm a Vlingo fan, I've been a user since day 1 when they could get suckers to buy is for 9.99 because at the time nobody else could compete so they could sell it

[lynchburgwildcats]

The maps definitely need some work. The first thing I did Wednesday after downloading iOS 6 to my 4s was try out the maps. I put in the address of a place of business I wanted to check out but had never visited. The turn by turn directions took me into a residential neighborhood and told me I arrived at my destination when I was driving by a patch of woods. The correct location was actually about a mile away from the place it took me. Not a good start. Unfortunately, I still haven't found a maps app that I like.

Is CoPilot available on iOS? I got it for Android and love it

[lynchburgwildcats]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19672981

Apple Maps are so bad that towns are either misplaced or completely missing. Yep, that's much better than the excellent Google Maps.

Yep, the new maps are not up to snuff with the polish I expect from Apple. On top of that, Google has a multi-year head start and an immeasurable amount of user contribution to compete with. Not a great start to their own map service, but the cord had to be cut. You can't rely on your direct competitor.

I use the Garmin Navigon app for turn-by-turn anyway, and I just saved the Google Maps app to my folder of navigation/maps apps. So... I'll be okay until they get the bugs worked out. I expect more, and if they fail to correct it to the level I've come to expect over the years, then I'll be the first to admit they have a problem. I have no problem criticizing when it's deserved.

Is that the one that's like $50? I'm looking for something that's good and free.

Good and free? Your likely only option right now is to jailbreak and illegally install one. Or just wait for Google Maps app.

[adam42381]

No jailbreak available at this point for iOS 6 that I'm aware of.

[NotAJerry]

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadge ... -1B6078693

Now we have unabashed Apple fangirl, Rosa Giljan, posting articles showing that the case for the iPhone 5 is crap and the company response is just as arrogant and condescending as it was to the antenna issue with the iPhone 4. At some point it's just massively overpriced garbage with a new adapter that costs $3.95 to make and is being sold for $40.

[El Scorcho]

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadge ... -1B6078693

Now we have unabashed Apple fangirl, Rosa Giljan, posting articles showing that the case for the iPhone 5 is crap and the company response is just as arrogant and condescending as it was to the antenna issue with the iPhone 4. At some point it's just massively overpriced garbage with a new adapter that costs $3.95 to make and is being sold for $40.

No hyperbole there at all.

[NotAJerry]

http://gizmodo.com/5947972/apple-acknow ... g-it-wrong

Ah, just like the antenna for the iPhone 4, now we've got Apple telling people the problem with the horribly overhyped camera for the iPhone 5 is that they're holding it wrong. Pretty much par for the course arrogance for a company selling a massively overpriced and inferior product.

[ALUmnus]

Whoa, there. The price of EVERY cell phone is massively inflated, so I wouldn't pin that on the iphone. And what exactly is the iphone 5 so inferior to, maybe one other phone out there? And that only if you like android. Let's not go all crazy here.

[Hold My Own]

Actually I dont think phones are over priced, we're just not used to seeing devices that are capable of everything these little guys are. Essentially you're buying a device that is far more powerful than your average netbook at a little bit above the price. That's fair considering the size difference.

[lynchburgwildcats]

I personally think they are overpriced, but when compared to other technology, no way are they overpriced. Now if you are talking about off contract, then without a doubt they are well beyond overpriced.

[Sly Fox]

Mrs. Sly picked up a new phone today from Verizon. After I suggested she consider a Galaxy S3 she asked me what the iPhone had that this phone didn't. My only replies that came to mind were lots of apologies and a hand permanently reaching into your wallet from Cupertino. She's now a proud Samsung girl.