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By LUconn
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It does make sense jbock. There's BYD and then there's the rest of us, wandering in what can only be ignorance.
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By jbock13
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BYD and I agree on much. We just have a difference of opinion on the party system.
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By Purple Haize
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Here's the thing: people always say what is or isn't a true conservative. My question is what IS a true conservative ? Has there ever been the perfectly conservative president? That answer is easy, NO!
'A true conservative follows the letter of the constitution". Well we have never had a President who does that. No one on Mt Rushmore that is for sure. Could a President Paul be a perfect conservative president? Nope. In order to get anything done you have to compromise and according to some, true conservatives don't compromise.
I like Romney, shocked I'm sure, and think he is the best option. We currently have what amounts to a 2 party system. Ross Perot gave it a shot in the 90's but we are back to 2. I cannot fathom, given the reality of where we are now and what we have to choose from, people would not, at the very least vote against Obama. To Vote for None of the Above by not voting is a cop out. Is Romney the conservative savior for America, probably not, but another term of Obama will do as much bad for America as 8 years of Reagan did good for America.
Change will not come overnight but JB points out there is hope on the horizon. I hope soooooo much that Romney taps Ryan as the Veep. Talk about 'conservative'!
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By Purple Haize
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BuryYourDuke wrote:If you think that there is a substantial difference between Romney, Newt, Santorum, or Obama, you are ignorant. There's really just no way around it. Keep falling for the rhetoric. And I'm all for the republican party if the candidate is actually conservative. For instance, our AG in VA is a good republican.
You are wonderful person and a tremendous human being but it is you who are falling for rhetoric. Alex Jones et al say this all the time. I just think you are wrong on Obama and the rest. There are key differences between Obama and Romney. I am not ignorant.
By ALUmnus
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BuryYourDuke wrote:It's what they can always count on. You folks being stupid enough to rally behind any liberal big government corporate stooge as long as he has an R next to his name come election day. The world keeps turning, and nothing changes.
Wow, you stay classy.

Man, the Courtyard was so dark and cold during your self-imposed exile. You should have seen the idiocy. But now that your light is shining bright on the rest of us ignorant plebes again, we can finally see the truth and how stupid we truly are. Please don't leave again, I don't think I can take living in such a void again.
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By Purple Haize
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BuryYourDuke wrote:I would say the litmus test is, do you want to shrink the size and budget of the federal government? Unfortunately, outside of Paul, none of our candidates can answer yes. Conservatives don't grow government. It's pretty simple really.
Which means we have NEVER had a conservative President.
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By jbock13
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First of all, Haize, Paul is not a conservative. He is a libertarian. Some libertarians (like me) are conservatives who don't believe that government should not overreach constitutional bounds, even if it's something that our side would like to ban. I'm sure Paul is very close to that position.

(begin rant)

How can Santorum talk about freedom, when he wants to go raid the porn shops? Sounds very odd. Porn is absolutely awful but you're really just going to ban it? Ha! It was even around in the middle ages when the Papacy controlled everything! So how are you going to ban something for which there is a strong market for? You see, Santorum is the problem. Santorum is a hypocrite. And I'm also sick of his lying about libertarianism being anarchy. He's really pis$ed me off lately with his crap.

(end rant)

I'd vote for Mittens before I'd ever vote for Santorum.
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By Purple Haize
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JB- feeling better? :D I agree I just put Libertarians with conservatives because......I feel like it.
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By jbock13
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Purple Haize wrote:JB- feeling better? :D I agree I just put Libertarians with conservatives because......I feel like it.
It's sometimes easy to intertwine. Then sometimes it's not lol.
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By Purple Haize
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jbock13 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:JB- feeling better? :D I agree I just put Libertarians with conservatives because......I feel like it.
It's sometimes easy to intertwine. Then sometimes it's not lol.
Which is exactly what I was trying to say but not really.
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By jbock13
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Purple Haize wrote:
jbock13 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:JB- feeling better? :D I agree I just put Libertarians with conservatives because......I feel like it.
It's sometimes easy to intertwine. Then sometimes it's not lol.
Which is exactly what I was trying to say but not really.
Kind of like Rumsfeld's "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."
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By Purple Haize
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BuryYourDuke wrote:I will never vote for another President that doesn't represent real change, a smaller government, less interventionism, and more freedom. I have learned my lesson.
So you will vote Non of the Above?
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By Purple Haize
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We will disagree on that. For starters getting rid of Obama care should be a priority.
There are no perfect candidates. I'm not a fan of not voting. If for no other reason, vote for the least bad option that has a chance of winning.
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By jbock13
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Purple Haize wrote:
BuryYourDuke wrote:I will never vote for another President that doesn't represent real change, a smaller government, less interventionism, and more freedom. I have learned my lesson.
So you will vote Non of the Above?
only in Nevada :nono

My favorite from the 2008 Presidential election from Montana
Official Results do not count any write-in votes for candidates that did not register for qualified write-in status. Officially registered write-in votes as follows: Santa Claus: 3, RaeDeen Heupel: 12, Rosa Clemente: 10, Amy Lou Wyatt: 1, Santa Clause: 2. The write-ins votes listed here were collected from each county official report
By ATrain
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Purple Haize wrote:We will disagree on that. For starters getting rid of Obama care should be a priority.
There are no perfect candidates. I'm not a fan of not voting. If for no other reason, vote for the least bad option that has a chance of winning.
Voting for the "Least bad option that has a chance of winning," is the type of philosophy that the sheeple have followed that has led to the two-party system that got us into the mess we are into today.
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By jbock13
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ATrain wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:We will disagree on that. For starters getting rid of Obama care should be a priority.
There are no perfect candidates. I'm not a fan of not voting. If for no other reason, vote for the least bad option that has a chance of winning.
Voting for the "Least bad option that has a chance of winning," is the type of philosophy that the sheeple have followed that has led to the two-party system that got us into the mess we are into today.
And a multiparty system yields no better results. See Western Europe and Latin America .
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By jbock13
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BuryYourDuke wrote:What about a no party system? :lol:
How has that worked in Nebraska?
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By Purple Haize
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ATrain wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:We will disagree on that. For starters getting rid of Obama care should be a priority.
There are no perfect candidates. I'm not a fan of not voting. If for no other reason, vote for the least bad option that has a chance of winning.
Voting for the "Least bad option that has a chance of winning," is the type of philosophy that the sheeple have followed that has led to the two-party system that got us into the mess we are into today.
I may be a lot of things but a sheep is not one of them. Which leads me to wonder why those opposed here seem to think name calling helps their cause? Are you the only true enlightened ones? Does anyone who disagree with you not have the capacity to mentally understand such deep thoughts?
I know, despite his GPA, BYD is an intelligent person and we disagree. I don't think he is a 'sheep' or ignorant. I don't know AT as well so not sure why you default to insults when people don't see things your way.
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By jbock13
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From the class of 09 wrote:
jbock13 wrote:
BuryYourDuke wrote:What about a no party system? :lol:
How has that worked in Nebraska?
:dontgetit
The Nebraska legislature has non-partisan elections. There's no Republican or Democrat on the ballot.
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