[LUconn]

no new episode tonight, booo.

I was thinking about this as I was going to sleep last night. I think as soon as Jacob died one of the candidates is the new Jacob. Not actually Jacob, but whatever he was (guardian of MiB or whatever). Now, MiB/fake Locke knows this, but he doesn't know which one it is and he obviously can't kill that person and he would rather them not know that they're the one. The only way he can get off of the island is if he leaves with that person and they're willingly going with him. So he makes up some BS about all of them needing to leave together, but really he just needs the one person. He just doesn't know which one it is. And rather than find out by tying to kill them all and seeing which one he couldn't kill, he'll just keep them in the dark on the whole situation in hopes that they don't figure it out and keep them in the mentality that they just want to leave.

Maybe that was obvious and I just put it together though.

[ALUmnus]

no new episode tonight, booo.

I was thinking about this as I was going to sleep last night. I think as soon as Jacob died one of the candidates is the new Jacob. Not actually Jacob, but whatever he was (guardian of MiB or whatever). Now, MiB/fake Locke knows this, but he doesn't know which one it is and he obviously can't kill that person and he would rather them not know that they're the one. The only way he can get off of the island is if he leaves with that person and they're willingly going with him. So he makes up some BS about all of them needing to leave together, but really he just needs the one person. He just doesn't know which one it is. And rather than find out by tying to kill them all and seeing which one he couldn't kill, he'll just keep them in the dark on the whole situation in hopes that they don't figure it out and keep them in the mentality that they just want to leave.

Maybe that was obvious and I just put it together though.

So what's with Jacob still giving orders and manipulating people, and the kid that Black Locke keeps seeing?

[LUconn]

Well dead Jacob is still Jacob, the person. So I guess he'd still want to lead people in the right direction.

I don't know what the deal is with the boy. Are there 2 of them? I thought the first time we saw him he was blond and then the next few times it was a dark haired boy.

[mrmacphisto]

Well dead Jacob is still Jacob, the person. So I guess he'd still want to lead people in the right direction.

I don't know what the deal is with the boy. Are there 2 of them? I thought the first time we saw him he was blond and then the next few times it was a dark haired boy.

I think popular theory is that one is Jacob and the other is MiB/Flocke.

[HenryGale]

Well dead Jacob is still Jacob, the person. So I guess he'd still want to lead people in the right direction.

I don't know what the deal is with the boy. Are there 2 of them? I thought the first time we saw him he was blond and then the next few times it was a dark haired boy.

I think popular theory is that one is Jacob and the other is MiB/Flocke.

One definitely had light hair and the other had dark hair, but according to the cast credits, it is the same actor that played both boys....FWIW

[mrmacphisto]

Well dead Jacob is still Jacob, the person. So I guess he'd still want to lead people in the right direction.

I don't know what the deal is with the boy. Are there 2 of them? I thought the first time we saw him he was blond and then the next few times it was a dark haired boy.

I think popular theory is that one is Jacob and the other is MiB/Flocke.

One definitely had light hair and the other had dark hair, but according to the cast credits, it is the same actor that played both boys....FWIW

I had a theory that Kenton Duty was an alias (seriously, it sounds almost as made up as Hoffs-Drawlar), but it appears he has additional credits on IMDB and his name isn't an anagram for anything significant.

[HenryGale]

no new episode tonight, booo.

I was thinking about this as I was going to sleep last night. I think as soon as Jacob died one of the candidates is the new Jacob. Not actually Jacob, but whatever he was (guardian of MiB or whatever). Now, MiB/fake Locke knows this, but he doesn't know which one it is and he obviously can't kill that person and he would rather them not know that they're the one. The only way he can get off of the island is if he leaves with that person and they're willingly going with him. So he makes up some BS about all of them needing to leave together, but really he just needs the one person. He just doesn't know which one it is. And rather than find out by tying to kill them all and seeing which one he couldn't kill, he'll just keep them in the dark on the whole situation in hopes that they don't figure it out and keep them in the mentality that they just want to leave.

Maybe that was obvious and I just put it together though.

This was my thought....

Jacob obviously physically touched each of the candidates at some point in their lives. Therefore, they may not be able to be killed (like Alpert). Therefore MIB needs to get each of them off the island, because he can not simply kill them.

[01LUGrad]

Nice thinking, guys.

By the way, way to kill off everyone from the continent of Asia in one episode. Wait, Miles is still around somewhere, right? What is taking him, Richard, and Ben so long to get to the plane? Did I miss something?

[Cider Jim]

Yea, one blown up and the other 2 drown. Also, Locke's dad is a vegetable in a wheel chair, and Kate took a bullet with no first aid kit on board the sub.

[ALUmnus]

Lupedis, man was he dead weight. I kept thinking he had an actual purpose, or destiny, in all this, but nope. Demise by door. Jack keeps leading everyone to their death.

I wonder if Widmore set some of this up in order to get Smokey off the main island so he could do his shindig with Desmond.

Sayid didn't really get the grand, mournful exit that he deserved. No dramatic music or gut-wrenching scene. He just ran through a doorway, blew up, and that was it. He meant more to the show than that.

[Cider Jim]

But at least there was a decent quote about his demise (by Jack): "There is no more Sayid."

[ALUmnus]

Also, why wasn't Sayid ticked about Smokey-dude not being on the sub? His whole deal was so that Nadia would be brought back. Wouldn't he have done everything in his power to make sure the Man in Black got off the island with him? Or was everything just so exciting he forgot.

[LUconn]

If that were the case, he would have killed Desmond. And we assume that he didn't. I think he had a change of heart based on whatever Desmond said to him.

[RubberMallet]

another show, no answers. great. grand. wonderful.

[ALUmnus]

Uh, wrong, we learned that John Locke is a terrible pilot.

[RubberMallet]

i stand corrected.

[ALUmnus]

So now the series finale, which is on a Sunday night (May 23), is going to be 2 1/2 hours long, from 9-11:30. Preceeded by a two-hour recap show. Sheesh, I've never heard of such a thing.

[LUconn]

I heard about the 2.5 hour finale but 2 our recap right before? How is that even possible? You only get 3 hours of primetime TV.

[RubberMallet]

I heard about the 2.5 hour finale but 2 our recap right before? How is that even possible? You only get 3 hours of primetime TV.

they needed to add a 1/2 hour because they realize the last 14 episodes they have just been dilly dallying.

there is even a special jimmy kimmel afterwards.

[LUconn]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... inale.html

ABC picked up the show before there even was a script.

The pilot was the most expensive pilot episode ever made in TV history, costing between $10 and $14 million

Lost is filmed on the Hawaiian island of Oahu

The only member of the principal cast who didn't have to audition was Terry O'Quinn (Locke) having previously worked with creator J.J Abrams

Beetlejuice star Michael Keaton was originally cast as Jack, who was to be killed off in the pilot. When writers kept the character, Keaton backed out as he didn't want to commit to a TV series

Forest Whitaker was originally cast as Sawyer but dropped out due to other commitments

Forest Whitaker That would have been a terrible character.

[LUconn]

Was anybody else really disappointed with that episode? Seemed like that was a great opportunity to explain a ton of things without present day characters having to explain things to us. But now we know that the ultimate guy who knew what the freak was going on, Jacob, is pretty much as clueless as us. And then at the end, they payoff is adam and eve and the producers found it necessary to splice together a scene like we're a bunch of retards.

Posted on twitter from a writer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_capability

Keats believed that great people (especially poets) have the ability to accept that not everything can be resolved. Keats, as a Romantic, believed that the truths found in the imagination access holy authority. Such authority cannot otherwise be understood, and thus he writes of "uncertainties." This "being in uncertaint[y]" is a place between the mundane, ready reality and the multiple potentials of a more fully understood existence. It relates to his metaphor of the Mansion of Many Apartments.

So there's your answer. We won't get any. I guess I'll just ride out the rest to find out what happens to the main characters.

[ALUmnus]

It seemed kind of like a "let's just get this out of the way" episode. And the dialogue/writing was absolutely horrendous, not something I'd expect from these writers. The actors couldn't do anything with that script, it just sounded like it was written by amateurs.

The whole mysterious light thing seems like an idea that came out of desperation, like they couldn't really think of anything awesome, so they just threw up something that could then be used as a metaphor.

Also, any correlation between Jacob always calling smokey "brother", and Desmond also calling Jack "brother"? Just something that kind of stuck in my head.

[LUconn]

I think Desmond's use of it has more to with him being scottish or whatever, and Jacob uses it in a forced way so we dont know MiBs name.

[ALUmnus]

Yeah, but Desmond doesn't call anyone else that, and it's been very purposeful, at least it seems that way to me.

[Cider Jim]

So, am I missing something very obvious, or do we still NOT know the name of Jacob's brother? They never mentioned it in the whole episode, that I could tell.