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While some will inevitably point out the power stuggle ongoing at Baylor; from a purely organizational improvement standpoint, it does serve LU well to keep tabs on how its peer institutions are moving and shaking in the higher education landscape.

I would like to see an explicit dialogue with accompanying policies set in motion at LU that would provide tangible evidence of a concerted committment to academic standards that Baylor has set as a priority as well as an assimilation into the dialogue with & within the cultural mediums that Biola has undertaken.

(Perhaps there should be a consortium of these higher profile distinctly christian colleges, i.e. Liberty, Biola, Pepperdine, Baylor, Asuza Pacific, Regent, ORU, etc. similar to the idea of a Catholic Network of Colleges where you have the marquee institutions and then the smaller 4 year ones. By loosely associating with one another, perhaps they could share resources, create social networking opportunities, provide contacts, work on research projects with one another as they would approach the source material (science, medicine, etc.) from a basic similar worldview. Just a thought.)

I personally think that, although Biola is smaller as far as the athletic arena is concerned, they are an institution that the LU ptb would benefit from by observing, studying and dialoguing with as LU attempts to back up its sometimes grandiose claims of being the largest and highest quality of its brand of eductional service, or at the very least being aware of as it continues to develop and refine its product. (Largest by default at this stage, but highest quality is going to take a continued concerted effort to keep it up and push the envelope of academic reputation and offerings.)

Baylor Tops Best Christian Colleges

By Doug Huntington
Christian Post Reporter
Thu, Mar. 29 2007 04:11 PM ET

Baylor University tops the list of the best Christian colleges in the nation, according to a ratings system created by a prominent Christian magazine.

RELEVANT, a bimonthly Christian magazine whose purpose is to impact culture, released its first ever “Top 5 College Rankings” in the March/April 2007 issue, compiling the top Christian schools from around the nation.

Christian schools have often been overlooked by national college ranking reports in the past, and the magazine editors felt it was important to let those interested in a Christian-based school know about the varied academic offerings in the United States.

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http://www.christianpost.com/article/20 ... lleges.htm
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By Sly Fox
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#75811
Calvin & Wheaton intentionally stay small in an effort to achieve elitist status. We obviously have taken a different path. Baylor benefits from over a century of strong growth & infrastructure. They also have benefited from being the THE Baptist university in a strong Baptist state.

I'd love to see the tuition comparisons for all five of those schools along with LU.
By thepostman
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Interesting...I was not aware that Wheaton and Pepperdine still had a Christian affiliation

my only question really would be...where is Sanford???
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By El Scorcho
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I'd like to see a comparison of mission statements, doctrinal statements as well as a comparison of what's being taught in the science/biology departments at these universities. I have the feeling Liberty is a little different than the rest of these schools.
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By Sly Fox
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You would find that Baylor is very close to us in their statements. But the reality is that two decades of tenured leftist profs don't really care what the current conservative adminstrators think.
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By TallyW
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Yeah... as far as a conservative Evangelical school with top-notched athletics... this list doesn't matter to us. We're in a league of our own... you can't combine those and make any list really... Baylor is close but c'mon... baylor is the John Kerry to LU's Newt Gingrich. It is true that the current administration leans our way but as Sly said, they have work to do. They've been drug through the coals over the last few years and their attention isn't where LU's is. Apart from them I think the point has been made that the rest of the schools are small on purpose... but I also observed with humor a lack of Samford... :)
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By qkslvrsrfrboy
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i got into biola, wheaton, azusa pacific, and attended a sister school of calvin last year. I had horrible highschool grades, but amazing SAT scores. Those schools would much rather be bigger, but no one really wants to go to them. And if you ever ask a calvinist, they believe that calvin is the biggest christian university in the world.
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By TallyW
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QuickSilverBoy... I'll bite... Why MR for prez? Is it his underwear?
By Ed Dantes
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thepostman wrote:Interesting...I was not aware that Wheaton and Pepperdine still had a Christian affiliation

my only question really would be...where is Sanford???
Just because Wheaton permitted dancing doesn't mean that they're no longer Christians.
By Ed Dantes
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TallyW wrote:Yeah... as far as a conservative Evangelical school with top-notched athletics... this list doesn't matter to us. We're in a league of our own... you can't combine those and make any list really... Baylor is close but c'mon... baylor is the John Kerry to LU's Newt Gingrich. It is true that the current administration leans our way but as Sly said, they have work to do. They've been drug through the coals over the last few years and their attention isn't where LU's is. Apart from them I think the point has been made that the rest of the schools are small on purpose... but I also observed with humor a lack of Samford... :)
No, if Baylor is John Kerry, LU would be like Virgil Goode (a Republican congressman).
By thepostman
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Ed Dantes wrote:
thepostman wrote:Interesting...I was not aware that Wheaton and Pepperdine still had a Christian affiliation

my only question really would be...where is Sanford???
Just because Wheaton permitted dancing doesn't mean that they're no longer Christians.
Well, i had no what they permitted and didn't...but i honestly had no idea either one of these schools were Christian schools...I knew they were at some point in time....

but if they allow dancing then i think they there may be a special place for them in hell :D :D

(thats a joke by the way)
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By Cider Jim
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Just because Wheaton permitted dancing doesn't mean that they're no longer Christians.
Well, since LU dropped the ties & dresses in favor of jeans and flip flops, some of our fundamentalist friends are wondering if we're still a Christian school. The answer is YES!
By ATrain
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Cider Jim wrote:
Just because Wheaton permitted dancing doesn't mean that they're no longer Christians.
Well, since LU dropped the ties & dresses in favor of jeans and flip flops, some of our fundamentalist friends are wondering if we're still a Christian school. The answer is YES!
My girlfriend's parents feel that Liberty was "too liberal" b/c of that (and the "contemporary music") and were going to send her to Bob Jones or PCC, but after their pastor who graduated from BJU said don't do it, Liberty became the only option for them.
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By flameshaw
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ATrain wrote:
Cider Jim wrote:
Just because Wheaton permitted dancing doesn't mean that they're no longer Christians.
Well, since LU dropped the ties & dresses in favor of jeans and flip flops, some of our fundamentalist friends are wondering if we're still a Christian school. The answer is YES!
My girlfriend's parents feel that Liberty was "too liberal" b/c of that (and the "contemporary music") and were going to send her to Bob Jones or PCC, but after their pastor who graduated from BJU said don't do it, Liberty became the only option for them.
If BJU or PCC were my only choices, I would stay home. I literally know 100's of kids who have been ruined by going to these schools. They are not educated to think for themselves, the PCC degree is worth nothing and the BJU degree only slighly more unless you are going into full time christian work, or hired by a BJU grad.

Addressing a post above regarding dancing, have you guys ever heard "a dancing foot and a praying knee don't grow on the same leg." Pretty funny, just not true.
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By alabama24
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Cider Jim wrote:
Just because Wheaton permitted dancing doesn't mean that they're no longer Christians.
Well, since LU dropped the ties & dresses in favor of jeans and flip flops, some of our fundamentalist friends are wondering if we're still a Christian school. The answer is YES!
Well you know, Jesus wore a tie AND a dress. So, I mean, Shouldn't we too? :roll:
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