[RubberMallet]

in other news, i made 340k this year.

[BJWilliams]

This is unrelated I know but hearing you talk about charities/organizations that "cook" their numbers but Im reminded of the Jimmy V Foundation for Cancer Research. They post their annual independent audit (obviously their 2011 report isnt up yet) but there are good people out there doing good work RM

[RubberMallet]

jimmy v isn't running around like a lunatic....ok check that.

all charities post "financials"...of course.

[flamesfan30]

would a new york times article change your mind? ... yea i didn't thinks so but here ya go.
http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0 ... s-on-kony/

One 14-year-old boy said, “The worst event of my life was when my three big brothers and my father were assassinated by the LRA.” No child should know what it’s like to lose their family to needless violence. And yet entire family structures are currently being torn by murder, violence, displacement, and insecurity.

[RubberMallet]

would a new york times article change your mind? ... yea i didn't thinks so but here ya go.
http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0 ... s-on-kony/

One 14-year-old boy said, “The worst event of my life was when my three big brothers and my father were assassinated by the LRA.” No child should know what it’s like to lose their family to needless violence. And yet entire family structures are currently being torn by murder, violence, displacement, and insecurity.

a blog on a sensationalist news rag? man what a sucker.

[flamesfan30]

okay, since you clearly think this is some big fraud, is there ANY charity/ church you give money too?

[RubberMallet]

okay, since you clearly think this is some big fraud, is there ANY charity/ church you give money too?

yes i prefer ones where their leaders aren't nutjobs.

[BJWilliams]

jimmy v isn't running around like a lunatic....ok check that.

all charities post "financials"...of course.

Course when he ran around it was after winning a national championship, not after having a few too many...as for the financials issue, there are independent organizations that track things like that for charities and non-profit organizations...

[NotAJerry]

One of the difficulties lies in finding the real financial numbers on groups. I worked for a law firm that dealt with 501 c3 and c4 organizations. We often handled their documentation and provided them with clear directions of what they could and couldn't do. That did give us access to their real financials and their org structure. I'll be nice and say that it felt like most of the "Christian" organizations were dirtier than their "secular" counterparts.

With that said, seeing the real numbers is one reason why I support both International Justice Mission and World Vision. I know what their real numbers were a few years ago, I've gotten to personally interact with their top people, and I have several friends that now work for each organization. They're the good guys and they don't fudge their numbers publicly (at least they didn't a few years ago).

I haven't had any interaction with the Invisible Children folks, but there does seem to be a lot of smoke around their credibility. Nothing of what I've seen in recent weeks would get me to give them so much as a found penny at this point.

[LUconn]

I'll be nice and say that it felt like most of the "Christian" organizations were dirtier than their "secular" counterparts.

And don't forget about how they tip in restaurants on Sunday afternoon! The nerve!

[RubberMallet]

jimmy v isn't running around like a lunatic....ok check that.

all charities post "financials"...of course.

Course when he ran around it was after winning a national championship, not after having a few too many...as for the financials issue, there are independent organizations that track things like that for charities and non-profit organizations...

they track the information that is given to them by the organizations themselves. a guy in my ss class works for the irs and we had a long talk about how charities do what they are able to do legally. its pretty fascinating.

[BJWilliams]

So youre saying that the Jimmy V foundation is a dirty organization?

[RubberMallet]

[BJWilliams]

Im just trying to interpret what youre trying to say RM...youre saying that charities and organizations like IC or the Jimmy V Foundation or LiveStrong doctor their financial numbers. even if they have an outside organization (similar to what NAJ did) run an audit for them. Does that mean we cant trust what any charitable group/non-profit organization says about where their money goes?

[From the class of 09]

Im just trying to interpret what youre trying to say RM...youre saying that charities and organizations like IC or the Jimmy V Foundation or LiveStrong doctor their financial numbers. even if they have an outside organization (similar to what NAJ did) run an audit for them. Does that mean we cant trust what any charitable group/non-profit organization says about where their money goes?

[jmdickens]

Im just trying to interpret what youre trying to say RM...youre saying that charities and organizations like IC or the Jimmy V Foundation or LiveStrong doctor their financial numbers. even if they have an outside organization (similar to what NAJ did) run an audit for them. Does that mean we cant trust what any charitable group/non-profit organization says about where their money goes?

Just wanted to share a story about the Livestrong Foundation. My old company did a lot of the construction on that building and we were supposed to meet Mr. Lance Armstrong, but we couldn't because he was being questioned by cops for exposing himself to a stripper earlier at the Yellow Rose. Just wanted to share.