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By RubberMallet
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=26884&tag=nl.e019

AT&T has filed a lawsuit against Verizon Wireless over those “There’s a map for that” commercials - but not because AT&T is disputing the accuracy of those 3G coverage maps. (PDF of complaint) Nope, AT&T thinks that consumers are too dumb to differentiate between 3G and non-3G coverage and it wants those maps changed - specifically, the colors. (Techmeme)

The Verizon map is largely covered by red, meant to represent its 3G coverage areas. The AT&T map, by contrast, is sparsely covered by blue - meant to represent its 3G coverage - and has vast sections of the nation covered in white, representing areas without 3G coverage.

AT&T argues that the maps are confusing and that consumers are led to believe that there is no AT&T coverage of any kind in those white areas. From the complaint:

AT&T does not seek to stop Verizon from running its advertisements, nor does it seek to change the words Verizon uses in its advertisements. At this time, AT&T seeks only an order prohibiting Verizon from displaying, in the “Bench” advertisement, or in any other advertisement, a map of AT&T’s “3G” coverage in which AT&T’s non-”3G” coverage areas are depicted by white or blanks space. This limited relief is necessary to prevent consumers from being misled by the maps into believing that AT&T offers no wireless service in large parts of the United States. The Court should enter a temporary restraining order because Verizon should not be permitted to benefit from its misleading use of coverage maps while the Court sets a schedule for a preliminary and permanent injunction hearing, especially in light of the fact that we are approaching the busiest time of year for the purchase of wireless services.

Sure, Verizon could have been more creative with the colors - maybe using light blue for 2G coverage and dark blue for 3G, but why should Verizon go out of its way to advertise AT&T’s 2G coverage when it’s a commercial about 3G coverage? I could see if the commercial were about all of the services - but these commercials clearly show people doing things that need 3G, such as watching streaming video.

The funny part is that AT&T previously complained that a line about customers being “out of touch” and the ad was changed. But the company says it remains misleading.

So what have we learned here, from the filing of this lawsuit? Well, I know I’ve learned that AT&T’s 3G coverage in the U.S. looks a lot worse than I thought it did. I know I would be pretty upset if I were an iPhone owner living in middle America. And it appears that I made the right call when I decided to stay with Verizon Wireless.

You know what confuses me about this lawsuit? No one seems to be disputing the factual part of the ad - the 3G coverage areas. So the only thing AT&T really stands to accomplish with this lawsuit is to raise awareness about the spottiness of its 3G service outside of major metropolitan areas.
By LUconn
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I really don't understand AT&T. They have an awesome phone line up with what many call the "Jesus phone". People put up with horrible service just for that phone. They really could be owning the wireless market. But they just don't even care to spread their network. It's almost like they're choosing to be a mediocre provider (if that) when they could be THE dominant force. :dontgetit
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By El Scorcho
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I'm one of those people putting with their stupidity for the sake of a device that I love.

I am really stingy with my money but if Apple released a CDMA version of the iPhone for Verizon, I would pay the ETF and any other money necessary to switch networks. I pay a lot of money to AT&T for really horrible coverage and I don't get their strategy either. Their customer service has always been great to me. I like their website and billing. I like everything about them except for their really terrible network (and their attitude about fixing it).

I was an Alltel customer for six years prior to getting my iPhone. I never liked a single phone I had with them, but their network was amazing by comparison. I'm not just using that word lightly either. Amazing. I hate having to be at one extreme or the other.
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By Sly Fox
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The crazy thing is I love AT&T for my fiber, broadband & landline. It is just their horrendous mobile coverage that keep me away from their phones. Thankfully Verizon is beginning to close the phone gap.
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By El Scorcho
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El Scorcho wrote:I am really stingy with my money but if Apple released a CDMA version of the iPhone for Verizon, I would pay the ETF and any other money necessary to switch networks.
Speaking of...
AppleInsider wrote:Report: Apple to launch Verizon iPhone in Q3 2010

By Prince McLean
Published: 05:00 PM EST

A new report citing sources in the Taiwan handset supply chain says Apple has contracted to produce a UMTS/CDMA hybrid iPhone due in the third quarter of next year that will enable the company to sell a single global handset to all carriers, and specifically to Verizon Wireless in the US.

The report by OTR Global, provided to AppleInsider by an industry analyst, says the new "worldmode" iPhone will gain compatibility with CDMA2000 networks (including Verizon's US network, which is currently incompatible with existing iPhone models) while retaining compatibility with UMTS 3G networks globally using a new hybrid chip produced by Qualcomm.

According to OTR's sources, Asustek subsidiary Pegatron will build the new hybrid phone devices for Apple rather than Hon Hai, the iPhone's current manufacturer. This decision was reportedly made to prevent the company from being "constrained by a single-source assembler
Source and Full Article: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09 ... _2010.html

What analysts have to say is generally worthless and I have serious doubts about using a smaller screen in the iPhone. However, there's a little flicker of hope burning inside of me that the rest of this is true. If I didn't have to wait until LTE rollout (which is going to happen just before never in Lynchburg) to get an iPhone on Verizon, I'd be dancing.
By HenryGale
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I was thinking that Verizon getting the IPhone was not going to happen after the announcement of the Droid and its advertising campaign.....wow.....
By LUconn
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So I guess they're basing the company on roll over minutes. Good luck.
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