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By PeterParker
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Newsbit from Yahoo frontpage:

By RACHEL ZOLL, AP Religion Writer
Sun Aug 13, 3:53 PM ET


Randall W. Harding sang in the choir at Crossroads Christian Church in Corona, Calif., and donated part of his conspicuous wealth to its ministries. In his business dealings, he underscored his faith by naming his investment firm JTL, or "Just the Lord." Pastors and churchgoers alike entrusted their money to him.

By the time Harding was unmasked as a fraud, he and his partners had stolen more than $50 million from their clients, and Crossroads became yet another cautionary tale in what investigators say is a worsening problem plaguing the nation's churches.

Billions of dollars has been stolen in religion-related fraud in recent years, according to the North American Securities Administrators Association, a group of state officials who work to protect investors.

Between 1984 and 1989, about $450 million was stolen in religion-related scams, the association says. In its latest count — from 1998 to 2001 — the toll had risen to $2 billion. Rip-offs have only become more common since.

"The size and the scope of the fraud is getting larger," said Patricia Struck, president of the securities association and administrator of the Wisconsin Department of Financial Institutions, Division of Securities. "The scammers are getting smarter and the investors don't ask enough questions because of the feeling that they can be safe in church."

Cases in recent years show just how vulnerable religious communities are.

Lambert Vander Tuig, a member of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest Calif., ran a real estate scam that bilked investors out of $50 million, the Securities and Exchange Commission says. His salesmen presented themselves as faithful Christians and distributed copies of "The Purpose Driven Life," by Saddleback pastor Rick Warren, according to the SEC. Warren and his church had no knowledge of Vander Tuig's activities, says the SEC.

At Daystar Assembly of God Church in Prattville, Ala., a congregant persuaded church leaders and others to invest about $3 million in real estate a few years ago, promising some profits would go toward building a megachurch. The Daystar Assembly was swindled and lost its building.

And in a dramatically broader scam, leaders of Greater Ministries International, based in Tampa, Fla., defrauded thousands of people of half a billion dollars by promising to double money on investments that ministry officials said were blessed by God. Several of the con men were sentenced in 2001 to more than a decade each in prison.

"Many of these frauds are, on their face, very credible and legitimate appearing," said Randall Lee, director of the Pacific regional office of the SEC. "You really have to dig below the surface to understand what's going on."

Typically, a con artist will target the pastor first, by making a generous donation and appealing to the minister's desire to expand the church or its programs, according to Joseph Borg, director of the Alabama Securities Commission, who played a key role in breaking up the Greater Ministries scam.

If the pastor invests, churchgoers view it as a tacit endorsement. The con man, often promising double digit returns, will chip away at resistance among church members by suggesting they can donate part of their earnings to the congregation, Borg says.

"Most folks think `I'm going to invest in some overseas deal or real estate deal and part of that money is going to the church and I get part. I don't feel like I'm guilty of greed,'" Borg says.

If a skeptical church member openly questions a deal, that person is often castigated for speaking against a fellow Christian.

Ole Anthony of the Trinity Foundation Inc. in Dallas, which investigates fraud and televangelism, partly blames the churches themselves for the problem. Anthony contends that the "prosperity gospel" — which teaches that the truly faithful are rewarded with wealth in this life — is creeping into mainstream churches.

Chuck Crites, a former member of Crossroads Church, learned firsthand how effective con artists can be.

The businessman was swindled out of $500,000 by Harding in a Ponzi scheme, which uses money from newer investors to pay off older ones.

Crites said Harding, who pleaded guilty last year to wire fraud and money laundering, boasted about helping fund a new Christian high school for Crossroads and hired a music pastor from the megachurch as a sales agent. "At one point he even told me how much money he had given to the church that year," Crites said.

Harding was nabbed with the help of Barry Minkow, who was himself convicted of fraud years ago. Minkow eventually became a pastor in San Diego and started the Fraud Discovery Institute, which is dedicated to investigating scams.

Crites is putting his money toward a new fraud-awareness kit for churches and other groups that Minkow is developing.

"It made me angry at how people are abusing the trust that exists in church communities," Crites said.

Investigators say all denominations are at risk, but the most susceptible communities are ones where members are deeply engaged in church activities, such as service programs and small group prayer, giving con artists plenty of chance to ingratiate themselves with congregants.

Often, perpetrators are so successful building an image as good Christians that churchgoers won't cooperate with law enforcement authorities even after the crime is revealed.

"Money has a way of blinding objectivity, even for we who are believers," Minkow says.

Interesting note, B. Minkow is an LU alum after he served his time and was penitent...it seems he started an anti-Fraud organization to combat the very illegal activity he participated in. Sounds similar to Frank Abignale's plight who was highlighted in the movie Catch Me If You Can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Minkow

http://www.frauddiscovery.net/index.html
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By Purple Haize
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Something similar happened at LU. While I don't believe JF or anyone had knowledge of it, the University and JF were being used by these people to bilk a few million out of some folk. Tragically, one of the people is no longer with us. Then of course you have the whole Mayor thing. WOW, that was fun
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By PeterParker
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Curiousity is peaked.
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By El Scorcho
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Purple Haize wrote:Something similar happened at LU. While I don't believe JF or anyone had knowledge of it, the University and JF were being used by these people to bilk a few million out of some folk. Tragically, one of the people is no longer with us. Then of course you have the whole Mayor thing. WOW, that was fun
You're gonna have to be more specific than that. Not about the mayor thing (which no one at LU, TRBC or JFM had anything to do with) but about the other stuff.
By LUconn
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Funniest things to come out of the mayor thing was the recorded phone conversation. JFjr (or maybe it was Jon) speaking of the Bank of the James: "yeah, I don't trust those guys."
By 4everfsu
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During the early years of LBC like the beginning we had a business manager who stoled money from TRBC, I cannot remember his name. But it did happen and it was a good piece of change
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By Purple Haize
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No, this all happened within the last 18 months or so. THere were a group of people loosely associated w/LU (some more tightly) who utilized one of the ministries mailing lists to bilk people out of money. The NandA ran a story on it, but it pretty much died. Perhaps you remember the LU staffer who commited suicide at the Peaks of Otter?
By Libertine
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Purple Haize wrote: Perhaps you remember the LU staffer who commited suicide at the Peaks of Otter?
I thought that had more to do w/ his wife leaving him, followed by him going postal on her and the Other Man.
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By El Scorcho
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Purple Haize wrote:No, this all happened within the last 18 months or so. THere were a group of people loosely associated w/LU (some more tightly) who utilized one of the ministries mailing lists to bilk people out of money. The NandA ran a story on it, but it pretty much died. Perhaps you remember the LU staffer who commited suicide at the Peaks of Otter?
The group of people you're referring to weren't loosely affiliated with LU, they were members of TRBC. They used a pyramid scheme to steal a lot of money. They were convicted, and it's done.

As for the suicide, what exactly is your point?
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By Sly Fox
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Come on, guys. We're grasping at straws here. In a ministry as expansive as TRBC/LU there are going to be some misdeeds. But dredging them up int he thread doesn't really serve much purpose.
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By PeterParker
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I can't speak for what happened in the previous situations, and if the higher ups did not have knowledge of it or a hand in it, then thay wouldn't be culpable anyways. However, the issue mentioned in the article is a growing problem, as there have been many instances highlighted over the last several months of this happening to people in churches, and especially egregious is when a pastor is hoodwinked and used as a pawn for the schemers. It should be viewed as a cautionary tale, that's all.
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By Purple Haize
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SLY this thread brought the topic up. What good does it do? What good did that article do? Just awareness. I am positive JF had nothing to do with it, but it is always interesting to see how people use/misuse power. To respond to LIB, you are partially correct. There were some domestic issues involved.
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