The guys aren't the only ones swinging bats in the spring. You can follow the squad throughout the season and even get the latest on recruiting.
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By Cider Jim
#531714 Ballcoach, here is the N&A article that you were hoping for:

http://www.newsadvance.com/sports/liber ... 09f07.html
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By alabama24
#531717
Chris Lang wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:but any college D1 tournament in town should get more coverage than a Jefferson Forest soccer game.


Not a battle you're going to win. Sorry.


Perhaps, but he is the only person I know who actually buys the paper... and every day!
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By adam42381
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thesportscritic wrote:Lack of interest is lack of interest whether one is in the NCAA regionals or this new NIT tournament period.

FTFY
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By Cider Jim
#531723 The online version of N&A article was actually more complimentary than the hard copy edition, which featured this title:

Tainted Title for Liberty?
LU was one out away from losing when rain came and the top of the inning was erased [subtitle]


And, ballcoach, I get the paper delivered to my house (and still have a land line). :oldhag
By ballcoach15
#531726 I would get paper delivered, but they not deliver it early enough, out in the country.

This championship was not tainted. If they had played on a dry field, LIberty would have won easily in my opinion. Liberty was better team.
By oldflame
#531727 Just curious ballcoach. Since you are at virtually every Liberty softball game in person, what difference should it make to you what a reporter, who almost certainly knows less about the game or our team than you do, says?
By ballcoach15
#531734 It doesn't make any difference to me. I know the best team won, however the best team doesn't always win. See BSC Tournament.
By thesportscritic
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adam42381 wrote:
thesportscritic wrote:Lack of interest is lack of interest whether one is in the NCAA regionals or this new NIT tournament period.

FTFY


Speak for yourself
By ballcoach15
#531782 There were some die hard fans at every game. Now granted attendance was very bad. Part of it was due to the lack of marketing. Unless one follows Liberty softball closely, most people did not even know tournament was being played.
Last night I counted the fans in the stadium, I am ashamed to say what the count was. This tournament should have been advertised in every possible way, so that everyone within at least a 60 miles radius of Lynchburg knew about it.
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By Purple Haize
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ballcoach15 wrote:There were some die hard fans at every game. Now granted attendance was very bad. Part of it was due to the lack of marketing. Unless one follows Liberty softball closely, most people did not even know tournament was being played.
Last night I counted the fans in the stadium, I am ashamed to say what the count was. This tournament should have been advertised in every possible way, so that everyone within at least a 60 miles radius of Lynchburg knew about it.


Seriously? With the way the weather was last night I'm surprised anyone was there
Secondly you assume knowing about it would have translated into exponentially larger attendance. That's a false assumption. Your target audience would be local softball players who are in season and trying to get their games in. You also have graduation ceremonies this past week to deal with.
There are fewer larger advocates of Women's Athlets than I am but I also understand the realities and limitations of its appeals. You could have advertised until the cows come home but very few people would have gone out of their way to brace the elements.
Finally, due to the weather no one ever knew what time the games started. So how do you get that information out? Sky writing?
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By Purple Haize
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ballcoach15 wrote:This tournament was only topped by the President's visit to Lynchburg, in my opinion.


Marketing mistake #1: Assuming your opinion is similar to those you market to. There were 0 indicators that Lynchburg would come out to this softball Tournament. The weather didn't help. It's not like they were pulling in 1500-2000 people a game WITH students on campus.
This tournament was pushed on all their media hits so I'm not sure what more you wanted. It certainly didn't warrant extra media buys.
And again, even if I had wanted to go to a game (I actually thought about it) there was never a set time Hard to plan a night out at the game when you don't know when first pitch is going to take place
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By Cider Jim
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Purple Haize wrote:And again, even if I had wanted to go to a game (I actually thought about it) there was never a set time Hard to plan a night out at the game when you don't know when first pitch is going to take place

Purple, with all due respect, a quick check of the LU softball website would have given you a correct time of each game, even if there was a delay. Since I'm on summer vacation, I attended all TEN of the tourament games LU played, which was even more than ballcoach watched. :shock:
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By Purple Haize
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Cider Jim wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:And again, even if I had wanted to go to a game (I actually thought about it) there was never a set time Hard to plan a night out at the game when you don't know when first pitch is going to take place

Purple, with all due respect, a quick check of the LU softball website would have given you a correct time of each game, even if there was a delay. Since I'm on summer vacation, I attended all TEN of the tourament games LU played, which was even more than ballcoach watched. :shock:


Just you right? No kids? No Mrs Cider? Because school is still in session locally so trying to load up the kids for a 7 pm first pitch that doesn't happen till 10.... :shock:
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By Cider Jim
#531801 Just me, ballcoach, TF, all of their closest old guy softball buddies, plus CG & TG. :oldhag :oldhag :oldhag Play Basketball :football
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By Purple Haize
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Cider Jim wrote:Just me, ballcoach, TF, all of their closest old guy softball buddies, plus CG & TG. :oldhag :oldhag :oldhag :football


So a bunch of creepy old dudes watching college age females....... :shock:
By Chippy
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Purple Haize wrote:
Cider Jim wrote:Just me, ballcoach, TF, all of their closest old guy softball buddies, plus CG & TG. :oldhag :oldhag :oldhag :football


So a bunch of creepy old dudes watching college age females....... :shock:

You forgot to include Waldo, I mean JJ McCracken! Maybe looking for a future Mrs McCracken?!
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By Cider Jim
#531804 LF was there, too. :cheerleader
By ballcoach15
#531805 For those who know and understand college softball, it's probably the most exciting sport to watch, especially when 2 good teams are playing.
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By Class of 20Something
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ballcoach15 wrote:For those who know and understand college softball, it's probably the most exciting sport to watch, especially when 2 good teams are playing.


Could you explain what makes softball any better than baseball? Genuinely curious. Baseball has faster pitching, longer basepaths(Seriously, a triple in baseball is longer than a homer in softball), deeper fences, longer throws, more innings, and the issue of rotating pitchers that softball doesn't appear to have.

It just seems to me that every aspect of baseball is more difficult than softball. I won't even ask for you to compare it to any of the other sports out there that are far more entertaining. Let's just have you defend the apples to apples comparison. I will never recognize your existence again if your response devolves into some autofellating stroke of your own intellectual prowess.
By ballcoach15
#531807 Softball is a faster paced game. It involves more coaching strategy . The "short game" comes into play more in softball than in baseball. (for most teams). A softball game is 7 innings, whereas a baseball game is 9 innings.
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By Cider Jim
#531811 What ballcoach said, plus more bunting, tougher pitchers (throwing BOTH games of a double header), and a few different rules (i.e., batters who are pinch run for can return to the game ONE time). And with a smaller field/stadium, the game seems closer to the fans.

And hearing Ballcoach and TF discuss coaching strategy is an education in itself! Study
By ballcoach15
#531812 Cider, very true.

Last night in the Alabama - Florida game, it was 0-0 in 5th inning. Alabama got a BB, then laid down 4 straight SAC bunts, 2 of which Florida made errors on, resulting in 3 runs. "Ball game".

In baseball, in a lot of 3 game series', one team often runs out of pitching, and game turns into the equalivant of a slow pitch church league game.
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By Purple Haize
#531817 I prefer College Softball to College baseball. But to say it's the most exciting sport.......
By ballcoach15
#531819 I have always thought that college baseball would be better in they had 7 inning games, instead of 9.
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By Cider Jim
#531829 I was watching the Ole Miss vs. UCLA game on TV last night, which went into extra innings and the CA girls won. Crybaby

But the whole time I was thinking, LU has a much better stadium than UCLA's! :shock:
By ballcoach15
#531840 LU has a better stadium than anyone, other than LSU and Baylor. (but I am not sure about those 2)

As for attendance at NISC, I saw that the Duke vs UVA ACC Baseball tournament game in Louisville drew 28 fans yesterday. Alabama and Florida softball had 1800 last night.

On my visits to SEC softball stadiums, (South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama and Auburn), I have noticed that most fans are 50+ in age. Very few students.
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By Class of 20Something
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ballcoach15 wrote:Softball is a faster paced game. It involves more coaching strategy . The "short game" comes into play more in softball than in baseball. (for most teams). A softball game is 7 innings, whereas a baseball game is 9 innings.


Thanks. I still don't "Get it" but I can understand the appeal.
By flamehunter
#531883 While I'll always be a diehard baseball fan, I can say having watched more LU softball this year than ever before (albeit on the tube) I am coming around to believing it is an enjoyable sport to watch, for the reasons ballcoach has mentioned.
By CentFla
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Class of 20Something wrote:Could you explain what makes softball any better than baseball? Genuinely curious. Baseball has faster pitching, longer basepaths(Seriously, a triple in baseball is longer than a homer in softball), deeper fences, longer throws, more innings, and the issue of rotating pitchers that softball doesn't appear to have.

It just seems to me that every aspect of baseball is more difficult than softball....


For all the reasons you just stated is what makes softball more "exciting" to watch.
1. "Baseball has faster pitching..." hitters in softball have less reaction time than baseball.
https://youtu.be/UsE6CEyFen8
https://youtu.be/gm9iZnqGMvY
https://youtu.be/QEtG5KvuWs4
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansas-city-royals/article158609314.html

2. "longer base paths" make for too many routine plays. They catch the ball, they check out the laces, shuffle shuffle and still beat the runner by 10 feet. Softball, you mishandle it and you are toast. Speed of the game makes it much more intense for defense and offense. It kills me in baseball watching a guy jog to first even though he hit a gapper because he knows he won't make it 2nd. Softball, gapper... you are going to try to get second every time. If Coach Richardson is coaching 3rd... she may even have you come to 3rd... :D

3. "longer throws". In softball, any ball to the left side has to be smoked to 1st to get the out. It creates more stress on the defense, which is why slapping is successful. Good slappers get on by error a lot because the push the defense. The shorter infield means the ball is coming at the defense much quicker, especially since composite bats are still legal. You can't stand 5 feet behind 3rd to give yourself reaction time because you will get small balled to death. It forces 3rd to play up. small ball in baseball, almost non-existent.

5. Both are difficult, round bat hitting a round ball that's moving. Just wanted to give some other perspective that the game is very tough to play at a high level.
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By Cider Jim
#534036 Ballcoach, TF, and I are all :clapping :clapping :clapping .
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By flamesfilmguy
#534112 To also give some perspective on the sport a little history lesson from my memory of sport history class. Softball was originally made up by a bunch of guys who wanted to play baseball in the winter in the late 1800's in Chicago. So they came up with the indoor version of baseball which featured a softer and larger ball and a smaller bat so that the ball wouldn't travel as far or fast because they were playing indoors. The game took off in popularity and in the summer people began playing it outdoors. Women started playing it shortly after its invention and somewhere in the 1930's it became a recognized sport for both men and women. Obviously the game has developed a whole lot since then but there is your little history of sport lesson for the day, I'm sure Prof. Blosser would be proud I actually listened in one of his classes lol
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By Purple Haize
#534114 LU used to have the greatest Sport History prof in the History of History
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By flamesfilmguy
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Purple Haize wrote:LU used to have the greatest Sport History prof in the History of History

well where were you when I was in school? geez. lol all joking aside I had some awesome SMGT prof's. Cohu and Blosser were my favorites and one of my old classmates is now on the staff. IF( and that is a huge if) I were ever to donate money to the school one day it would be earmarked for that program.