I know that the name in the thread title evokes emotions on both sides, but I wanted to know everyone's thoughts on this letter
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: March 19th, 2014, 6:41 am
by alabama24
I'm not a MD fan, but this is an encouraging sign.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: March 21st, 2014, 10:50 am
by Sly Fox
A very encouraging sign. The arrogance and lack of contrition have always been huge red flags for me. If this is sincere and I cannot think of any good reason to believe otherwise based on the content of this letter, then I applaud his changes in direction.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: August 8th, 2014, 9:21 pm
by SuperJon
Driscoll was asked to step down and seek help by Matt Chandler and the Acts 29 board.
Twitter.com is generally better for searches such as this.
That's why BJ puts so much stock in it!
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: August 9th, 2014, 2:58 pm
by Kolzilla41
I think it is more than stepping down though. I believe there were talks of steps to reconciliation and it seems the board of A29 wasn't too pleased with the constantly reappearing shenanigans. It is a very encouraging sign but I hope that Driscoll really is able to reconcile the people he really hurt. As much as I disagree with him on some things, I've not been personally affected.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: August 24th, 2014, 5:38 pm
by Sly Fox
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Christianity Today wrote:Mark Driscoll Steps Down While Mars Hill Investigates Charges
(UPDATED) Driscoll offers 8-step solution to followers: 'Current climate is not healthy for me or for this church.'
Morgan Lee [ POSTED 8/24/2014 12:41PM ]
Driscoll announces his 'extended focus break' from Mars Hill.
[Updated with eight "next steps," direct quotes, video of announcement.]
In Mark Driscoll's first public statement since Acts 29 rebuked and removed him from the church planting network he founded, the embattled Seattle pastor announced he will temporarily step down as leader of Mars Hill Church while charges submitted by 21 former pastors against him are investigated.
He offered his church a list of eight next steps he plans to take [see bottom of this post, along with video link], acknowledging that some charges are "simply my fault, and I will own it, confess it, and move on from it as God continues to redeem me."
All involved should read Luke 18:9-14, among any number of passages, for guidance. I'm not a Driscoll fan by any stretch, but this lesson could be applied to any number of pastors, people, or institutions, including myself.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: August 27th, 2014, 5:47 pm
by olldflame
The PR firm of someone familiar to those of us who have been around long enough will be "advising" the church. That would be Mark DeMoss. In light of the less than stellar way LU has handled some recent situations it might not be a bad idea to look into utilizing the services of an alum who is in the PR field.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: August 27th, 2014, 8:11 pm
by bluejacket
olldflame wrote:The PR firm of someone familiar to those of us who have been around long enough will be "advising" the church. That would be Mark DeMoss. In light of the less than stellar way LU has handled some recent situations it might not be a bad idea to look into utilizing the services of an alum who is in the PR field.
Definitely would be a wise decision.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: August 27th, 2014, 10:36 pm
by Sly Fox
Mark obviously has long connections to not only LU but is also contracted to most fo the major Christian non-profits in the U.S. He remains on the LU board and is obviously consulted when asked. Mark has his hands full with the other previously mentioned Mark mess in Seattle.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: August 28th, 2014, 9:21 am
by TDDance234
What did Driscoll actually do? I keep reading about lists and things that disqualify him - but what is it exactly?
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: August 28th, 2014, 11:44 pm
by alabama24
TDDance234 wrote:What did Driscoll actually do? I keep reading about lists and things that disqualify him - but what is it exactly?
I don't want to get into it one way or the other... but here are a couple of articles:
Wow. Praying he (Mark) and all involved do the right things. Satan loves this stuff.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: September 2nd, 2014, 7:13 pm
by SuperJon
Holy crap.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: September 4th, 2014, 2:13 pm
by R i
I go to an Acts 29 church. Setting up a government with checks and balances is so important, because the power and money would be too much for most of us in the Mars Hill situation.
I just bought a song from this worship pastor that wrote this "non defiant" letter, in which he ended it with a 3 paragraph quote from Driscoll, the situation is garbage, and the letter is also garbage. There are more people to blame than just Mark D.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: September 4th, 2014, 3:13 pm
by PAmedic
feel free to dismiss this since my rep on this stuff isn't, well- you know...
[add in the fact I know nothing about anyone of the players involved in this mess]
having said that- whatever happened to going to a nice little church of a hundred people or so then going home and having a sandwich and watching Nascar or the NFL?
this crap with 15k people, 65 pastors, books, satellite campuses, what a joke
the Church has become an industry. These people are totally missing the point, IMHO
give the world yet another reason to laugh- this time, legitimately.
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: September 4th, 2014, 4:14 pm
by ALUmnus
PAmedic wrote:feel free to dismiss this since my rep on this stuff isn't, well- you know...
[add in the fact I know nothing about anyone of the players involved in this mess]
having said that- whatever happened to going to a nice little church of a hundred people or so then going home and having a sandwich and watching Nascar or the NFL?
this crap with 15k people, 65 pastors, books, satellite campuses, what a joke
the Church has become an industry. These people are totally missing the point, IMHO
give the world yet another reason to laugh- this time, legitimately.
Medic, you are absolutely right in everything you said (except the nascar bit).
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: September 4th, 2014, 4:25 pm
by PAmedic
see, even a blind squirrel finds one once in awhile!
Re: mark Driscoll
Posted: September 4th, 2014, 4:32 pm
by flamehunter
They are giving the people what they want - easy to attend without getting involved. Let us make you feel good - why else does Osteen have so many"worshipers" attending every week.