A Sea Of Red

Okay, so officially I am going to sound like a total retard / homeschooled brat but here we go

I wish RA's wrote more people up.
I wish our rules were more strict.

Heres my thinking. Im sitting in the CLAB on ff and typing a paper and looking around I see at least five people who are out of dress code (OMG ) There is a group of four people next to me chattin and within the past 10 minutes Ive heard girls swearing n talking about stuff they did last weekend (No it was not shopping ).

Before I keep venting understand that I in no way am saying I am perfect. I make way too many jokes I shouldnt, and many times I fall just as hard as anybody else. Anyone can say the rules are stupid and dumb but they are our rules and we are still required to follow all of them, regardless of how pointless they are.

RA's rarely and I mean rarely enforce the non moral rules put in the Liberty Way. Unfortunately they have been put in a position where they are supposed to enforce rules that in many ways cannot be enforced properly. The Hair code for men is what half way down the ears? How on earth are they supposed to do that? And as for dressing appropriately at the beginning of the year alot of guys got away with that in the beginning and now an RA cant confront someone without finding more people right next to them. For them I would imagine it just becomes pointless to talk to anyone, because they cant stop anyone from disobeying the rules. Speaking of RA's seriously no one ever respects them. Regardless of how anal they may be they are still our authority. And that may sound stupid but here at LU we just have a generated dislike for anyone who is an RA because theyre an RA and simply that.

There are at least 5 - 10 guys on my hall who I could guarentee when they sign out to their married sister's house thats not where they end up. Anybody can get away with anything but instead of us as Christian brothers and sisters stepping up and confronting each other about our struggles we continue to ignore them. Maybe its been like this for a really long time, but since I have been here this is what Ive noticed going on, specifically this year. Not that having a shirt with a collar means your super duper spiritual, because it doesnt. But the fact is if people no longer respect the small rules here, at some point they will most likely break the big ones too. More importantly though, if were breaking rules we are sinning, and in time drifting farther away from God in an environment that is "geared" to bring us closer.

Maybe this goes back to the question about whether LU is drifting away from its first goal, and although I dont think the change is ridiculously severe you can see a change in attitude toward discipline, at least at the bottom, maybe farther up as well. The people who are supposed to enact discipline should do their jobs, and we as students at LU ought to heed correction as opposed to just blowing it off. I have yet to find more than a couple of instances this year in which an RA was CLEARLY out of line. Our "over-zealous friend" was quick to confront, but so are good fathers. And until we look at them with the respect theyve earned and deserve, we will always have a thing against the rules and the people who enforce them.

I know I sound like that 5th grader who the teacher assigned to watch the class while shes gone, and I know what Ive said is laughable, but this is what Ive seen here at LU and I would like to hear your thoughts.

I agree. No point in having rules when they are not only not being enforced, but they are being blatantly disrespected by the people who are supposed to follow them.

If you don't like the rules, have mommy pay for you to go to Tech or UVa or something.

Otherwise, deal with having to cut your hair and not go party every weekend and get drunk.

awww, you're growing up before our very eyes.

Just a point: I can name four people on this board who have signed out to their married friends house and not ended up there because they ended up at my house.

For those RA's who read this board and know my name, I didn't do that. I am 21, and by senior rules I can sign out to his house, and did.

If you don't report them, you're disobeying the rules. And if you don't report yourself for disobeying the rules that is also against the rules. You had better rat them out as soon as possible.

By the way, I'm firmly in the camp that believes the only dress code we should have here is "cover yourself up" and think hair code is a joke. I'm ok with the current dress code, will not complain about it, but I'd personally rather go to school in sweats.

SLOB!

SuperJon wrote:By the way, I'm firmly in the camp that believes the only dress code we should have here is "cover yourself up" and think hair code is a joke. I'm ok with the current dress code, will not complain about it, but I'd personally rather go to school in sweats.

My thinking: Either make it the way it was 3 years ago, or get rid of it. You cant wear earrings because it's not professional, but a hoodie (my favorite article of clothing) is good?

There is no way my hoodie is professional in any way

Not refuting whether we should follow the rules, but some things definitely dont make sense

LUconn wrote:If you don't report them, you're disobeying the rules. And if you don't report yourself for disobeying the rules that is also against the rules. You had better rat them out as soon as possible.

Then I'm breaking the rules and have no problem with that.

When a friend of mine is completely worn out and doesn't have class til 3pm on a Friday, I'm going to let them sign out to my house, sleep in a real bed, and not wake up for convo. To me, that's caring about my friends. There's no alcohol involved. There's no drugs involved. There's no late night sessions with hookers involved. It's them coming over, hanging out and watching tv, and instead of going home at midnight, they go to bed. Big frickin deal.

Schfourteenteen wrote:

SuperJon wrote:By the way, I'm firmly in the camp that believes the only dress code we should have here is "cover yourself up" and think hair code is a joke. I'm ok with the current dress code, will not complain about it, but I'd personally rather go to school in sweats.

My thinking: Either make it the way it was 3 years ago, or get rid of it. You cant wear earrings because it's not professional, but a hoodie (my favorite article of clothing) is okay

Not refuting whether we should follow the rules, but some things definitely dont make sense

Everyone on here will tell me to grow up on this issue, because they have before, but there's no chance I would've ever come to this school if dress code was what it was three years ago, and I'm willing to bet at least 20-30% of the school feels the same way (yes, I realize that's me saying 2000-3000 current students wouldn't have had to come here if they had to wear a tie/skirt every day).

But to 14's point, most of the people 21 or older would agree with you. But RA's can only do so much. And what can they even do? If you don't give them your ID so they can give you reps, they have to figure out who you are. Honestly, I get "reps" all the time at LU. I used to tell them that I wasn't a student anymore, but they hear that excuse everyday. Now I just give them my old ID and tell them to knock themselves out with it. I wonder what's happening with that. But anyway, my point is an RA can only do so much and that is less and less with the growth of the student population. It's gonna get worse before it levels off.

SuperJon wrote:By the way, I'm firmly in the camp that believes the only dress code we should have here is "cover yourself up" and think hair code is a joke. I'm ok with the current dress code, will not complain about it, but I'd personally rather go to school in sweats.

At least you guys get to wear jeans...we didn't have that.

I agree about the hair rule....retarded.

My house is in my dad's name, who happens to have the same name as me. If someone under 21 signs out to my house, and puts the name "Gerard Carone" down, there's no problem. We've just found a way to get around things.

SuperJon wrote:

LUconn wrote:If you don't report them, you're disobeying the rules. And if you don't report yourself for disobeying the rules that is also against the rules. You had better rat them out as soon as possible.

Then I'm breaking the rules and have no problem with that.

When a friend of mine is completely worn out and doesn't have class til 3pm on a Friday, I'm going to let them sign out to my house, sleep in a real bed, and not wake up for convo. To me, that's caring about my friends. There's no alcohol involved. There's no drugs involved. There's no late night sessions with hookers involved. It's them coming over, hanging out and watching tv, and instead of going home at midnight, they go to bed. Big frickin deal.

homosexuality is also against the rules.

blwall1416 wrote:

SuperJon wrote:By the way, I'm firmly in the camp that believes the only dress code we should have here is "cover yourself up" and think hair code is a joke. I'm ok with the current dress code, will not complain about it, but I'd personally rather go to school in sweats.

At least you guys get to wear jeans...we didn't have that.

I agree about the hair rule....retarded.

Dude, you have no hair.

LUconn wrote:But to 14's point, most of the people 21 or older would agree with you. But RA's can only do so much. And what can they even do? If you don't give them your ID so they can give you reps, they have to figure out who you are. Honestly, I get "reps" all the time at LU. I used to tell them that I wasn't a student anymore, but they hear that excuse everyday. Now I just give them my old ID and tell them to knock themselves out with it. I wonder what's happening with that. But anyway, my point is an RA can only do so much and that is less and less with the growth of the student population. It's gonna get worse before it levels off.

Absolutely. But ask my RA how many people hes written up inside of DeMoss (BTW the answer is very close to if not 0). Its not that RA's can do everything, because they cant and at some point people will make the decisions they will make, but RA's as well as the rest of us arent stepping up at all.

SuperJon wrote:

blwall1416 wrote:I agree about the hair rule....retarded.

Dude, you have no hair.

Yeah.....but if I did.......

Schfourteenteen wrote:

LUconn wrote:But to 14's point, most of the people 21 or older would agree with you. But RA's can only do so much. And what can they even do? If you don't give them your ID so they can give you reps, they have to figure out who you are. Honestly, I get "reps" all the time at LU. I used to tell them that I wasn't a student anymore, but they hear that excuse everyday. Now I just give them my old ID and tell them to knock themselves out with it. I wonder what's happening with that. But anyway, my point is an RA can only do so much and that is less and less with the growth of the student population. It's gonna get worse before it levels off.

Absolutely. But ask my RA how many people hes written up inside of DeMoss (BTW the answer is very close to if not 0). Its not that RA's can do everything, because they cant and at some point people will make the decisions they will make, but RA's as well as the rest of us arent stepping up at all.

RA's used to have a block of time they were supposed to roam DeMoss looking for violations. I'm not sure if that still exists. We used to hang around after class to watch our RA do his time. It was amusing.

Why can't the RA's do anything? It can't be only because the person won't give them their ID. If that's the case, then the school needs to figure out another way to enforce the rules. You change with time, and I say that not only from a rules perspective but from a rules enforcement perspective as well.

what do you suggest? Barcodes tatooed on the back of people's necks? That would be pretty cool.

Tattoo a barcode on everyone's arm.

Solved.

SuperJon wrote:

Schfourteenteen wrote:

SuperJon wrote:By the way, I'm firmly in the camp that believes the only dress code we should have here is "cover yourself up" and think hair code is a joke. I'm ok with the current dress code, will not complain about it, but I'd personally rather go to school in sweats.

My thinking: Either make it the way it was 3 years ago, or get rid of it. You cant wear earrings because it's not professional, but a hoodie (my favorite article of clothing) is okay

Not refuting whether we should follow the rules, but some things definitely dont make sense

Everyone on here will tell me to grow up on this issue, because they have before, but there's no chance I would've ever come to this school if dress code was what it was three years ago, and I'm willing to bet at least 20-30% of the school feels the same way (yes, I realize that's me saying 2000-3000 current students wouldn't have had to come here if they had to wear a tie/skirt every day).

The thing is the dress code isnt enforcable whatsoever. If were going to dress professionally, lets dress professionally. If we arent, then lets bag the whole thing (minus women's skimpy clothes and inappropriate slogans logos and or jokes)

Great minds?

SuperJon wrote:Why can't the RA's do anything? It can't be only because the person won't give them their ID. If that's the case, then the school needs to figure out another way to enforce the rules. You change with time, and I say that not only from a rules perspective but from a rules enforcement perspective as well.

3 Things they can check:

LU ID
License
Dorm Key (Has a serial number on it)