A Sea Of Red

Drudge leads with the story today that Huckabee was for Isolating AIDS patients and that he called homosexuality a sinful and aberrant lifestyle. All this took place in 1992 when Huckabee filled out a questionnaire.

Who picks up the story? Not the mainstream media such as cnn and msnbc and abc, but FOX News and other conservative blogs such as the politico and other outlets. Liberal media will pick up the story...eventually but they're not jumping on it like the conservative press.

I think the fear is that if Huckabee wins the nomination the liberals will use this same information to defeat him in the national election. I'm sure the liberal press would but I don't think that means Huckabee would necessarily loose.

MSNBC, CNN and other mainstream media outlets have been saturating the news with Huckabee stories for the past few weeks with the hope that he will win the nomination. Why? Because they don't think he is electable.

I think Huck is the best man for the job and I wish the conservative media would stop trying to stab their own in the back. It will happen anyway in due time. If Huckabee is going to win the nomination, it will be without the help of the conservative media.

kel varson wrote:Who picks up the story? Not the mainstream media such as cnn and msnbc and abc, but FOX News and other conservative blogs such as the politico and other outlets. Liberal media will pick up the story...eventually but they're not jumping on it like the conservative press.

Not exactly.

This story is currently being run by The AP, TIME, CBS News, The NY Times and MSBNC. None of those are exactly conservative media outlets.

El Scorcho wrote:

kel varson wrote:Who picks up the story? Not the mainstream media such as cnn and msnbc and abc, but FOX News and other conservative blogs such as the politico and other outlets. Liberal media will pick up the story...eventually but they're not jumping on it like the conservative press.

Not exactly.

This story is currently being run by The AP, TIME, CBS News, The NY Times and MSBNC. None of those are exactly conservative media outlets.

I didn't say they wouldn't pick it up.

At least do some research before replying. I could find it on Time, but did not see it on CBS, or the NY Times.

It was not a headline on Time and its probably buried somewhere on the others. It was a headline on Fox News and Drudge.

Oh, and the AP is different, they may pick up the story but they don't generate the buzz.

kel varson wrote:

El Scorcho wrote:

kel varson wrote:Who picks up the story? Not the mainstream media such as cnn and msnbc and abc, but FOX News and other conservative blogs such as the politico and other outlets. Liberal media will pick up the story...eventually but they're not jumping on it like the conservative press.

Not exactly.

This story is currently being run by The AP, TIME, CBS News, The NY Times and MSBNC. None of those are exactly conservative media outlets.

I didn't say they wouldn't pick it up.

Then what's your point? It's featured just as prominently there as it is at the conservative sites (save Drudge, who isn't really a conservative outlet). Even if it weren't, the conservative sites would only be featuring it because it's of more interest to their viewers/readers.

Your conspiracy theory about why MSNBC and CNN have been featuring stories about him is silly. They're featuring him more because he's ahead in the polls now. That's what happens when you're the front-runner. If anything the left probably would rather see someone else get the nomination since he's familiar with the Clinton family and how to defeat them.

The conservative media are not trying to "stab their own in the back". He's running against other "conservatives" and they're covering the race. Do you think all of the supposedly conservative media outlets should just jump in line behind Huckabee because you have? It's just all a bit silly.

kel varson wrote:At least do some research before replying. I could find it on Time, but did not see it on CBS, or the NY Times.

It was not a headline on Time and its probably buried somewhere on the others. It was a headline on Fox News and Drudge.

Oh, and the AP is different, they may pick up the story but they don't generate the buzz.

The AP doesn't generate buzz?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I'm sure the thousands of news outlets that solely run AP stories would beg to differ. Most news outlets take their national and international cues from the AP.

CBS News link: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/12/08 ... 4445.shtml

New York Times link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/us/po ... gn.html?hp

http://www.foxnews.com

All I can say Scorcho is that I disagree. I think I made my point. The other websites are burying this story. Its front page on fox news.

Fox has a double standard. When conservatives get in trouble they usually bury the story. Not the case with Huckabee.

Usually the Mainstream press jumps all over stories like this. All I can say is, why aren't they? Even the Time magazine article was sympathetic to Huckabee.

While I think you are probably right about the AP generating buzz (I misspoke). Its not a conspiracy from the left, it is more of a liberal 'group think' mentality. They know if Huckabee is the candidate they can paint him as a homophobic, Bible Thumping wacko. They just waiting to do it.

kel varson wrote:While I think you are probably right about the AP generating buzz (I misspoke).

I should hope so. The Drudge headline you're so concerned about is an Associated Press story.

Again, I don't think this is getting any more play in one place or another. It's just an upcoming story that's hit some places before others. The NY Times article I linked before isn't even dated until tomorrow, which means the mainstream media is waiting to lead off their political news week with the story. Fox is just trying to get the jump on everyone else and play to their core audience at the same time.

I saw this first earlier today (before this thread even got started) on CNN Headline News....I think scorcho is right on this one...sorry man

And is anyone REALLY surprised that a former Southern Baptist pastor feels that way? This is the biggest nonstory I've heard in a long time. I can't imagine anyone who supports Huckabee will stop now that this is made public.

And I heard it on CNN and ABC news. I stopped watching Fox when they hired Geraldo Rivera (ooo -- talk about a conservative news voice!!).

well, he won't lose any support that is for sure...but he may find it harder to gain support...or this may just all just go away...either way, its been slow in the news department lately....they had to find something...

ps...Fox News is terrible...

thepostman wrote:well, he won't lose any support that is for sure...but he may find it harder to gain support...or this may just all just go away...either way, its been slow in the news department lately....they had to find something...

ps...Fox News is terrible...

Well, its more than just today. Its been the coverage of the Republican candidates from the beginning. Again, I didn't say the other outlets wouldn't report the story. I just think Fox is sensationalizing it.

Personally I don't care...Huckabee doesn't have my vote, his immigration and fiscal policies suck. RON PAUL IS THE MAN!!!

ATrain wrote:Personally I don't care...Huckabee doesn't have my vote, his immigration and fiscal policies suck. RON PAUL IS THE MAN!!!

Yes and while Huckabee actually has a small shot at winning, Ron Paul has no shot. You'd be better off backing Fred.

kel varson wrote:

ATrain wrote:Personally I don't care...Huckabee doesn't have my vote, his immigration and fiscal policies suck. RON PAUL IS THE MAN!!!

Yes and while Huckabee actually has a small shot at winning, Ron Paul has no shot. You'd be better off backing Fred.

I'm actually glad ATrain brought Ron Paul up. He really hasn't gotten very much play in this forum.

Huckabee's coming on pretty strong right now....conservative Christians panicked and supported people they were not completely sold with....this could get very interesting

I'm surprised that anyone thinks that Fox News is slanted right b/c of any over-riding ideology. Rupert Murdoch has proven that he is nothing if not an opportunist. His companies find holes in the market and fill them. You can look at every branch of NewsCorp and see it.

RagingTireFire wrote:I'm surprised that anyone thinks that Fox News is slanted right b/c of any over-riding ideology. Rupert Murdoch has proven that he is nothing if not an opportunist. His companies find holes in the market and fill them. You can look at every branch of NewsCorp and see it.

I agree.

kel varson wrote:

RagingTireFire wrote:I'm surprised that anyone thinks that Fox News is slanted right b/c of any over-riding ideology. Rupert Murdoch has proven that he is nothing if not an opportunist. His companies find holes in the market and fill them. You can look at every branch of NewsCorp and see it.

I agree.

El Scorcho wrote:

kel varson wrote:

RagingTireFire wrote:I'm surprised that anyone thinks that Fox News is slanted right b/c of any over-riding ideology. Rupert Murdoch has proven that he is nothing if not an opportunist. His companies find holes in the market and fill them. You can look at every branch of NewsCorp and see it.

I agree.

I'm speaking more of Rupert Murdock and not necessarily the editors of Fox News who may have there own ideas. Rupert Murdock hires conservatives because as RTF said, there is a "hole in the market." Since Murdock is hiring conservatives, those conservatives, not necessarily Murdock himself, have their own idealogies which bleed over into the news coverage.

Murdock is happy because they are filling the holes left by the Mainstream media coverage and getting huge ratings.

Oh I understood what RTF meant. I'm just surprised that you agreed considering how you started off this post.

Well, Huckabee isn't electable. Putting aside his social conservatism stance, the guy is a moderate, at best. Heck -- he's a democrat when it comes to immigration and crime, his tax plan is ridiculous (the so-called fair tax), and he's gone to the "Barack Obama School of Public Speaking" with his "sound energetic, make a couple of good soundbites, and ultimately say nothing worthwhile" addresses.

I am not a Huckabee supporter but couldn't the same be said about Guliani?? as far as the moderate/almost democrat on many of his beliefs??

The difference there is that Rudy isn't trying to paint himself as the conservative savior. Rudy has made no secret of his views on issues like abortion and homosexuality and has basically said if you don't like it, oh well. Huckabee is trying to avoid his record in Arkansas that proves he is not the conservative he is running as and claiming to be.

RagingTireFire wrote:I'm surprised that anyone thinks that Fox News is slanted right b/c of any over-riding ideology. Rupert Murdoch has proven that he is nothing if not an opportunist. His companies find holes in the market and fill them. You can look at every branch of NewsCorp and see it.

I too don't understand why there is such a love or hate mentality of Fox News. Really, if you are a conservative person, what is a better alternative on television? The commentators on Fox are pretty enjoyable, they also at least appear to give the left some time. Maybe they just got me duped, but what makes them so bad compared to CBS, ABC, CNN, ABC, etc.?