A Sea Of Red

More layoffs and cut-backs. SACS must be putting on the heat.

http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/Sate ... 9703&path=

So, I'll be the first to say it. When is Liberty going to have to step in and save this piece of Lynchburg?

yeah- she would've gone far with that "Russian Studies" degree

PAmedic wrote:yeah- she would've gone far with that "Russian Studies" degree

Hey, look where it got Condi Rice.

well, then I hope Lucy Hamer is a politically active, savvy, minority.

She too could be a theoretical candidate for the presidency, even WITH that highly sought-after degree.

good luck to her. Maybe she can sue someone....

There is actually a girl in the marching band that commutes over from Randolph College for practice. She plays mellophone and she said she really liked band and they do not have a Marching band at RC so that is why she does it

Not where I thought this thread was going based on the title....

For what it's worth, I do hope they figure out a way to get things fixed down there. Though I'm sure Liberty isn't cared for by many on that campus, I kind of like having the other schools around Lynchburg.

I think the media is making their situation look a lot worse than it really is - although it is bad. They already have in the works a new athletic facility for it's outdoors sports that will include permanent stadium lighting (currently use temporary), with synthetic turf and a pretty sweet sounding press box along with other stuff. If they didn't have some money then I don't see how they could even begin to put this in the works...Based on the education departments they are cutting, it sounds like to me they are cutting the dead weight ones anyways. Seriously, Russian , Japanese, and German studies, honestly how many students is that department going to be bringing to the college? I think getting rid of these will be good, but they need to couple that by adding programs that are high in demand or are growing at a rapid pace (e.g. Sport Management or any other sport related field). Form my experience, the Sport Management degree attracts a lot of high caliber athletes, and they desperately need to improve that athletic department amongst other departments.

A S/F ratio of less than 10/1 is just unsustainable. Very few schools are near that level and they are very rich. By adding a business major and such they can attract more students that Russian or German ever will.
This sure is a rough patch for them--the new President hopefully knew what he was getting into.

Question for the hags...
...(and long time professors)

How bad was it back in the early 90's for LU?

Question for the hags...
...(and long time professors)

How bad was it back in the early 90's for LU?

I don't really want to go there, Fumble, but let's just say we lost some good faculty--some who were laid off and got jobs at major universities, and others who left voluntarily because LU missed a couple of paychecks in those days. Thank God, though, that those days are behind us!

Oops...didn't mean to...



I was just curious if it was as bad as LU as RC? Sounds to me like worse.

badger74 wrote:A S/F ratio of less than 10/1 is just unsustainable. Very few schools are near that level and they are very rich. By adding a business major and such they can attract more students that Russian or German ever will.
This sure is a rough patch for them--the new President hopefully knew what he was getting into.

actually they do have a business major...they still have "dead weight" majors like classics, curricular studies (otherwise known as liberal arts studies to msost people), dance (i am not joking, they have a dance major), and too many history major - not saying history is unimportant, but they have one history major and 5 interdiscplinary majors that essentially amount to history; but they should consider combining all of those together into the history major and just make concentrations withn the history major. all of those would be perfectly acceptable offerings if randolph wasnt in the middle of financial crisis, but now they simply cant afford to keep up with all these majors that hardly attract students. they need to add majors that attract students so they can drive up enrollment, and one their financial situation is in tact then they should consider adding them back if they want to continue in that direction.

if they were to just increase their student to faculty ratio to 15:1 that would make 1200 students (80 faculty members) instead of 715, aka a lot more money. i doubt they have the room to house them now, but all they would have to do is add a couple dorms or something and that would be "relatively" cheap. Hell, just increasing that ratio by 1 would add 80 students which would bring in a lot more money...

The issue is the QUICK FIX...showing SACS they are making progress. They already beat their male enrollment projections...
...but to get the ratio down quickly, it is must more efficient (and heartless) to ax the faculty.

As I recall, LU didn't have to sell off any paintings in the early 1990s. I think the pics of BR Lakin are still hanging in the Religion building.

Fumblerooskies wrote:Question for the hags...
...(and long time professors)

How bad was it back in the early 90's for LU?

I came to Liberty on the tail end of this. I remember having professors that were on their way out. My speech class was a joke. He told us that he was going to LSU the next semester, so he made the class really fun and easy. Some of my friends got the debate coach for speech class and said it was one of the toughest classes they had to take. My brother graduated in 1993 from Liberty and came to visit me a few times in the mid 90's. He was pretty shocked at how many of his professors had left Liberty. They must have made some big cuts back then!

so when is LU going to get its hands on Randolph Colleges Land

Wow. This was a random thread to pull up over a year later at 3am

I couldnt sleep and I was bored...what can I say

soccer7 wrote:so when is LU going to get its hands on Randolph Colleges Land

Not until the school shuts down I imagine, and If i had to bet, I would say that's not going to be happening anytime soon given the development, expansion, and drastic improvements in the athletic department - adding a bunch of teams despite lower enrollment and adding a new athletic facility along with renovations to current facilities despite lower enrollment suggests to me that they aren't hurting financially anymore.

ironic you brought this up...

http://www.newsadvance.com/lna/news/loc ... :17:36:50Z

Two years after being placed on warning by its accrediting agency, Randolph College is no longer being monitored by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, President John Klein announced this week.

flamesbball84 wrote:ironic you brought this up...

http://www.newsadvance.com/lna/news/loc ... :17:36:50Z

Two years after being placed on warning by its accrediting agency, Randolph College is no longer being monitored by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, President John Klein announced this week.

whats ironic is two of your many usernames exist in the same thread.

I know that Liberty trying to get that land is far fetched but with all the talk about all the other land we are trying to get our hands on (and hope we do by the way) then I just wanted to throw that out there for fun.
I do agree they may not be hurting financially now but what if these two things happen:
1. Enrollment does not improve...and they just sunk in all that money on these projects to help enrollment
2. The alumni that are still VERY UPSET that they went coed stop giving to the school
I hope that nothing happens to this school but you never know.

soccer7 wrote:I know that Liberty trying to get that land is far fetched but with all the talk about all the other land we are trying to get our hands on (and hope we do by the way) then I just wanted to throw that out there for fun.
I do agree they may not be hurting financially now but what if these two things happen:
1. Enrollment does not improve...and they just sunk in all that money on these projects to help enrollment
2. The alumni that are still VERY UPSET that they went coed stop giving to the school
I hope that nothing happens to this school but you never know.

you can come with a bunch of what ifs that can lead to any school going under, so whats the point?

How does endowment work if a school is purchased before it closes the doors...or if they close the doors and someone comes in and buys it...is that figured into the price of the school or is it limited to ONLY that school