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By PAmedic
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all right! now THIS is exciting:

http://newsadvance.com/servlet/Satellit ... 0514&path=

Gay rights group aims for LU
By Zack Smith
zsmith@newsadvance.com
March 5, 2006

On Friday, a group of gay rights activists may risk jail to come to Liberty University.

The Soulforce Equality Ride, a seven-week bus tour visiting 19 religious colleges and military academies that ban the enrollment of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students, will make its first stop at LU.

Thirty-five people will participate in the ride, and co-director Jake Reitan said that as many as 100 people could join them in Lynchburg.

But their presence will not be welcome.

LU has issued a statement from the Rev. Jerry Falwell saying that the Equality Ride, which visited the campus last April in a trial run, will not be allowed to return to LU as a “media demonstration.”

“The parents of our students have entrusted their sons and daughters to our care,” Falwell said in the statement.

“Liberty has an obligation to these parents not to expose their children to a ‘media circus’ that might present immorality in a positive light.”

A release from Soulforce, the organization behind the ride, quotes LU Police Chief Randy Smith as saying, “Soulforce will not be allowed on the property and this will be enforced by arrest if needed.”

Smith was not available for comment, and LU did not comment beyond Falwell’s initial release.

Reitan said that Falwell’s decision could backfire.

“The reality is, they’re creating the media circus by trying to arrest us,” Reitan said.

“When they deny our visit and try to arrest us, they show their true colors.”

Reitan said the Equality Ride will also visit such campuses as Brigham Young University and Oral Roberts University, and include presentations and open discussion with students about homosexuality.

He said that he was inspired to start the ride by a gay student he met while attending Northwestern University.

Reitan said that the student, who attended Wheaton College, discussed the school’s anti-homosexual policy and his fear of expulsion for being gay.

“I said, ‘That’s a terrible policy, we should do something about it,’ and he said, ‘I think it’s a great policy. It’s a sin to be gay,’” Reitan recalled.

He said that one of the goals of the ride was to help reach gay students on religious campuses. He said they were being told that who they were made them an affront to God.

Soulforce is a locally based organization committed to “ending the stigmatization of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people - stigmatization caused by religion-based bias.”

The organization was co-founded by the Rev. Mel White, a former ghostwriter for Falwell who came out as a homosexual in 1993.

Falwell said in the statement that he had permitted Soulforce to meet with LU representatives last year, and allowed a delegation of 150 people from Soulforce to engage in dialogue at the campus church on another occasion.

He said that he felt that Soulforce was not acting in good faith with this visit, and would “use such encounters on Christian college campuses as a media attraction and for their ultimate purpose of fundraising.”

Reitan said that Soulforce just wanted to enter into a dialogue with people at LU.

“I don’t know if they’re going to change their hearts and minds,” Reitan said.

“I hope at least they’ll change their preconceptions of what it is to be gay and lesbian.”

The Equality Ride will meet at First Christian Church on Friday at 9:30 a.m. A service will be held at 7 p.m. on Thursday.

For more information on Soulforce and the Equality Ride, visit www.soulforce.org or www.equalityride.com.
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By PAmedic
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I've got that voice over going "SOOUUUUUULLL -TRAIN" in my head from that great dance show that used to be on TV. (Thats where SCAR picked up his moves)

Anyone on campus being told about this proposed visit? or to avoid these people?
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By PAmedic
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representing LU well :roll:

http://www.equalityride.com/article.php?article_id=23
A Letter From an Alumni of Liberty University
Dear Friend,

I am a graduate of Liberty University. I know first-hand about how Liberty treats our gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and questioning individuals. I have always wanted to go to Liberty since the tenth grade. I felt that Liberty was where God wanted me to go to school. I knew that I was gay when I went to Liberty. I also knew that I was a Christian and that God had always been evident in my life. While I was at Liberty, I believed the messages that they were teaching about Homosexuality, and that it was wrong. It caused me to be in torment because I knew what my heart felt, but I also knew how society and the people at Liberty felt about it. I tried to change myself, to become straight, but to no avail. I tried praying, fasting, casting out demons, having others pray for me, but nothing happened. I heard how the speakers who spoke against Homosexuality say that you have to believe that you can change and put your whole heart into it. I tried and tried, but still nothing happened.

I prayed a lot while I was at Liberty, but I always felt that God wanted me to be gay. I am one of his gay children. I ended up graduating from Liberty with a heart ready to serve God, but also with the embracement of my homosexuality. However, due to the extreme measures of what was said during my four years at Liberty by the administration and speakers that we had on campus, I still remained quiet about my sexuality, holding onto a fear of who I really was. My life at Liberty was fulfilling because of the friendships that I have. I still have friends from Liberty who know that I am gay and they still love me no matter what because they know I am a child of God.

However, my student life at Liberty was not the only way in which this school's teachings and policies effected me personally. I also worked at Liberty during college. Then, someone from my church decided to out me to the Human Resources department. The department decided to let me go not based on my job performance, but because they could not have someone who was gay on their staff. They were concerned about what the parents would think if they knew that someone who was gay was working at Liberty. I was told that if I sought counseling then I may get my job back. They also told me that they loved me, but they couldn't have someone like me working there.

Until then I agreed with everything that Liberty believed except concerning their stance on Homosexuality. God taught me a lot when I was there. This event got me to realize that I needed to stop living a lie and start living my life as God intended. Someone from the church tried to make my life a disaster, but ended up allowing me to obtain the life that I was supposed to live. Today, I am proud to admit that I am a Gay-Christian. God is still number one in my life. He has provided my every need now as he has always promised he would. I pray that my words will help someone to realize what harm religious persecution can do to an individual who is a Christian and gay.

In Him,

Greg Turner
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By PAmedic
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The Equality Ride Route: Liberty University
Sign up for the Direct Action at Liberty University on March 10, 2006.

The Rev. Dr. Jerry Falwell is nationally known for his anti-gay advocacy and comments. Liberty University students are taught to take his perspective as truth. They are denied the opportunity to hear in their classrooms a reasoned argument that disagrees with the belief that homosexuality is a sickness and a sin.

College should be place of academic freedom, a time to question prior beliefs and above all else, a time for free expression. But for students at Liberty University, college does not come with that freedom. This is especially true for GLBT students who must remain closeted, living in fear of others finding out their secret.

By choosing to go to Liberty, you are taking a stand against the fear these closeted Liberty students face. By choosing to go to Liberty, you are taking a stand in favor of the academic freedom every Liberty student is denied.

You are invited to take a day off of school or work to take a stand for equality at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia.

Click here to sign up for the direct action at Liberty University.

Participants in the direct action will meet at First Christian Church in Lynchburg Virginia at 9 a.m. on March 10. A rally at Liberty University will take place at 10:30 a.m.

Location: First Christian Church
3019 Rivermont Avenue
Lynchburg, Virginia

Map this Location

Also consider joining the Equality Riders at the Sending Service to be held at First Christian Church on Thursday, March 9th at 7:30pm.

This is will be the second time the Soulforce Equality Ride has stopped at Liberty University. Last April, young adults from all across Virginia came together to spend a day at Liberty and bring a message of equality to a school that teaches intolerance.

This year the Soulforce Equality Ride will return. We have planned more events to increase the reach of our message.
By Hold My Own
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A friend of mine is a neighbor of Rev. Mel White (leader of SoulForce) and he has two really big statues of deer in his yard one a buck and one a doe, he asked Mel why he didn't have two bucks in his yard...it took him a few minutes but he got it
By Hold My Own
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#7130
my favorite quote, "I'm one of God's Gay children" :lol:
By Rocketfan
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Anyone heard anything about Eric Lovett in the last few years??

The joke about the deer is really funny though, i would probably have asked the same question had i seen that in the front yard.
By LUconn
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#7161
ouch, sore subject.

I think there were a few gay kids each year I was at LU. Obviously they were not "officially" gay as I'm sure that's reps or something but they never really hid it. Not to mention their flamboyance. I was actually in GNED with one when we were going over the subject. He didn't seem to care. Apparently the guy who wrote that letter above didn't go through that class or he would know that the urge/desire/drive isn't neccisarily going to go away. Just like I have the urge/desire/drive to take the unattended $100 bill laying on the floor. Maybe God's calling me to be a theif.
By belcherboy
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Rocketfan wrote:Anyone heard anything about Eric Lovett in the last few years??
I had heard he was in California working at a church. That was a terrible thing when it all came out. I had just left school about a year before it came out and my buddy was working at Liberty. He decided to take a job at home (Michigan) and was on the road home when the story really hit the press. I called him on his cell phone and asked him "Why are you REALLY coming home?" He had no clue, but had heard the various rumors over the years that E-Love was gay (I heard them the whole time I was at Liberty). I used that for several years as the reason he REALLY came home. I couldn't believe that it had the center section of the National Enquirer. I was friends with some of the guys in his praise band and to see some of their pictures in there was indeed humorous!! (not to them)

There was also a big bust with some kids going to a Roanoke gay bar my last year there (gay and straight kids). I was casual friends with a few of them (they lived on my dorm in years past) and always had my suspicions as to how effinimate some acted. One of my buddies who allegedly was caught going to the bar was Elmer Towns top assistant, but I never got a chance to confirm it with him so I don't want to assess blame where I am unsure, although he did stop working for him right after the incident.

My roomate got a call from a guy he was a casual friend with (he was nice to the guy, but the guy was really annoying). We would go and play racketball with him every once in a while, basically because we felt like he didn't have many friends. My roomate gets a call during the summer at our apartment (I was home for the summer). The guy begins telling my roomate that he is now gay and thinks that my roomate may be gay. This guy encouraged my roomate to "come out" and he would help him become free. My roomate broke my cordless phone in his hand he was so angry. I wanted so badly to make fun of my roomate, but he was bigger than I was (workout freak) and NEVER discussed it with anyone, outside of my other roomate. He was VERY angry about it!

I remember several kids coming out as gay while at Liberty. With a school the size of Liberty, you will have that. I got other stories, but I'll have to save them for another time. I knew quite a few people at Liberty and heard various first hand accounts of incidents.
By Hold My Own
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Eric actually is at Tenn Temple helpin his dad run that school into the ground.....

I"M KIDDING, no but he really is out there helping out, I used to be pretty close to Eric and found everything that happened to be quite odd from every aspect...but whatever floats your boat
By belcherboy
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Hold My Own wrote:Eric actually is at Tenn Temple helpin his dad run that school into the ground.....

I"M KIDDING, no but he really is out there helping out, I used to be pretty close to Eric and found everything that happened to be quite odd from every aspect...but whatever floats your boat
I never knew what had really happened, but I read his resignation letter (at least that is what I was told). I think it was emailed to some of the LU staff. I never heard details of what happened to cause him to resign (the rumors I heard were gay activities at his apartment, gay porn and a gay bar). If anyone wants to share, feel free. If it is too taboo to speak about, at this point, it is no big deal. I felt bad for him because soooo many stories went around and nobody really could refute it and I found it hard to believe that 3/4's of them were legit. From what I understand though, he has since gotten his life straight and is doing well. I hope so. Eric was a workout BEAST the last time I saw him at Liberty!!
By SuperJon
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This is just a rumor, I don't know if it's substantiated or not, I'm only going on what friends who have been here for more than a year have told me. According to them, there's an underground "network" or whatever with gay people here at Liberty and that there is a certain hall somewhere on campus that a lot of the gay people try to get on. I have no clue what hall it is or even if it's true or not. I wouldn't be surprised if it was true or even if it was overwhelmingly false. I just thought I'd throw that out in this thread.
By belcherboy
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Hold My Own wrote:Eric actually is at Tenn Temple helpin his dad run that school into the ground.....

I"M KIDDING, no but he really is out there helping out, I used to be pretty close to Eric and found everything that happened to be quite odd from every aspect...but whatever floats your boat

http://www.tntemple.edu/templates/custe ... PID=257044

ding, ding, ding....You are indeed right. E Love is working at TTU. I knew Eric and am glad to hear he is back on his feet!! Hopefully the mistakes he has made in the past won't haunt him for the rest of his life! He was a really nice guy!
By Hold My Own
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Well Eric basically just said that he was sexually abused as a child/teen by his therapist and that caused him to question his sexuality...yeah


but as far as the underground network....I guess that's a really cool name for gay people being friends...I mean yeah I think the gays at LU pretty much knew the other ones and the ones they saw up at Roanoke, so I guess you could say that's a underground network...they did seem to hang out a awful lot....but whatever
By Hold My Own
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belcherboy wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:Eric actually is at Tenn Temple helpin his dad run that school into the ground.....

I"M KIDDING, no but he really is out there helping out, I used to be pretty close to Eric and found everything that happened to be quite odd from every aspect...but whatever floats your boat

ding, ding, ding....You are indeed right.
I know my stuff....it's hard to slip one past this Goalie..........no pun intended on the subject matter 8)
By LUconn
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#7174
He sent that letter to the entire student body. I still have it if anybody wants to give it a read. But we should probably stick to the facts here. Even if the bible didn't tell us not to gossip it's a pretty female thing of us to do.
By kel varson
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#7181
Eric Lovett is director of recruitment at Tenn. Temple. His picture is on their website if anyone is interested.
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By Flamesfanva
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I agree with sticking with facts. Speculation and rumors do more harm. I pray for anyone who thinks God designed them contrary to what His Word says.
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By nickrichard
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#7194
Anybody else wonder if "Brokeback Flamer" will be making an appearance at this rally? And if so, which side will he be supporting? LOL :roll: :roll:
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By jcmanson
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Hey nick I was wondering the same thing myself! Maybe he will chime in on here to let us know.
By absturgill
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I agree with LUConn. This is a very touchy subject and this is a PUBLIC message board. I am not one for gossip. Needless to say, my prayers are with Mel White and his organization. Let's pray that God will open their eyes and soften their hearts and turn these people back to HIM.
By MDIVIVVY
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I'm going to the Caner installation tonight, so I'll see what I can find out.

Anyone even interested that we're having an installation of a dean?

BTW: Lovett and Borek are both here

That is all
By TIMSCAR20
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I found out recently that Caner and me are neighbors! I don't know that many people in the hood, including Caner btw. That is cool that he got the promotion. I heard JF talk about it at Thomas Road yesterday.
By Guest
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I agree although, I don't think any gossip has been spread...everything mentioned was made public VIA email...nobody has gone deeper than the email...i think brokeback would agree we as a society need to stop saying hush at the drop of the hat just b/c the G word was used....it seems to be a lot less ersonal than character remarks made about coachs....but whatever!
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By Sly Fox
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Installations are ceremonial and that's not usually my cup of tea. But I'm glad to see Caner getting the run.

In fact, if anyone has access to their dean/neighbor and wants to personally invite him onto this board it woudl be cool. Based on facebook I get the idea he is extremely web savvy. He'd bring a different perspective to the board. I tried hitting him up via facebook with no luck.
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