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College hopes to attract new students with online gaming competition

Ron Brown and Matt Busse
The News & Advance
February 3, 2007


Liberty University is laying the groundwork for a spring and summertime festival designed to attract potential students through computer game competition on the Internet.

Cyberfest, the event’s working name, would be a counterpart to Winterfest, a New Year’s music festival sponsored by the school for the past five years.

In Cyberfest, students would use the Internet to compete against each other in preliminary rounds the first few months of the year. The championship round would involve a gathering of hundreds of winning students on the LU campus sometime in July.

The ultimate winner would be awarded a full four-year scholarship to the school, a prize valued at $80,000. Those high schoolers who do not win the grand prize would be eligible to win lesser scholarships.

“Liberty, in its recruiting efforts, is constantly looking for new and more effective ways to communicate with potential students,” said Ron Godwin, LU’s executive vice president and chief operating officer. “We probably have a dozen ways we reach out to potential students.”

Large-scale gaming tournaments can attract hundreds or even thousands of players. For example, the final rounds of the World Cyber Games last year brought 700 gamers from 70 countries to Monza, Italy.

But few schools, if any, sponsor an online computer gaming competition for scholarships. Cyberfest would provide LU a unique niche in its recruiting effort.

Godwin said LU may sponsor some type of limited gaming tournament this year and gear up for a full-fledged event next year.

“We already send recruiters to visit potential students in their home cities, their home churches and their schools,” Godwin said. “We are open to any and all ideas that might work for our recruiting. Our goal is to involve the largest number of potential students possible.”

Cyberfest, which would take place over the first half of the calendar year, would plug a significant hole in LU’s recruiting calendar.

It already has advantages over Winterfest, which has been the school’s chief recruiting event.

Cyberfest would be held at a time that LU’s students are not on campus.

Winterfest is limited in its attendance by the lack of available hotel rooms. Potential students attending Cyberfest could stay in one of the campus’ 2,711 dorm rooms.

“We have learned that the most effective recruiting events we hold actually bring students to the campus,” Godwin said.

By design, Cyberfest could provide the school with even greater outreach to potential students.

By holding the preliminary rounds on the Internet, Cyberfest could become a bona fide national competition.

“We would try to get potential students involved online throughout the country,” Godwin said. “This will not be a spectator sport. We have dedicated a lot of time thinking about communicating with high schoolers in ways they most want to be communicated with. We think Liberty needs to be on the cutting edge of how to communicate with potential students.”

Godwin is consulting with some of LU’s younger managers in an attempt to ascertain what games would be attractive to high school students.

Because of its religious beliefs, LU would not sponsor games with excessive violence or sexually explicit themes.

Some of the most well-known multiplayer video games, such as the action shooter Halo 2, contain enough violence to receive a rating of “Mature,” the equivalent of an “R” rating in movies.

Others, like the popular Madden NFL series, are rated “E,” for “everyone.”

Matthew Zealand, LU’s chief information officer, said the Madden games are being considered for inclusion in Cyberfest.

Cyberfest could include computer games and console games (like those played on systems such as Microsoft’s Xbox or Sony’s PlayStation 3).

“We’re in the brainstorming stage,” Godwin said.

Godwin’s planning team involves five different managers, most associated with the school’s information services department. Their average age is just over 24.

“I think this has got a lot of potential,” said Zealand, 28. “There are a series of markets where we are not demonstrating ourselves. Gaming is one of those.”

Zealand said the school must be flexible if it wants to communicate effectively with high school students.

“We are trying to go to where they are instead of forcing them to communicate through our mediums and our methods,” he said. “This is definitely a step in the right direction.”

Godwin said Cyberfest would add a new pillar to the school’s recruiting philosophy.

“Dr. (Jerry) Falwell has said for years that we reach potential students through music and sports programs,” he said.

“Those have been the two legs, but we’re going to add a third leg to the stool and that’s computer interactivity.”

The computer games are just a means to achieve the school’s recruiting goals.

“Our idea is to reach out all across America with some sort of gaming offerings,” Godwin said. “My objective would be to make potential students aware of Liberty, make them aware of the education opportunities here and make them aware of scholarship opportunities. We would, probably through the national preliminary competition, expose Liberty to far more people than those who would end up on campus.”

Contact Ron Brown at (434) 385-5542 or rbrown@newsadvance.com.
Contact Matt Busse at (434) 385-5533 or mbusse@newsadvance.com.
By ATrain
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Interesting...but they should still leave Halo/Halo 2 in consideration...I mean, student life sponsors tournaments for those games.

However, if LU wants to really attract people, perhaps its time for a major in video game design/programming.
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By PAmedic
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go to college to learn how to play Nintendo games? AND get a DEGREE for it? :shock:

man, I'm getting OLD HAG-GER by the minute.

I don't understand anything anymore :?
By SuperJon
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I think it's Old Hag-ier.
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By El Scorcho
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PAmedic wrote:go to college to learn how to play Nintendo games? AND get a DEGREE for it? :shock:
The video game industry rakes in several billion dollars a year. Unfortunately for most aspiring programmers and designers, it's a lot less fun than it sounds. The money is good, though, and that's enough to push some people through the tough parts of such a program. I've got an acquaintance who's worked on all of the Call of Duty games after getting a degree in game design from Full Sail in Florida. He's basically got a license to print money these days.
By Rocketfan
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El Scorcho wrote:
PAmedic wrote:go to college to learn how to play Nintendo games? AND get a DEGREE for it? :shock:
The video game industry rakes in several billion dollars a year. Unfortunately for most aspiring programmers and designers, it's a lot less fun than it sounds. The money is good, though, and that's enough to push some people through the tough parts of such a program. I've got an acquaintance who's worked on all of the Call of Duty games after getting a degree in game design from Full Sail in Florida. He's basically got a license to print money these days.
Call of Duty has been a very good seller, but i imagine it all depends on the project you get placed on because some games due bomb on occasion. I am wondering when this competition gets in place if they will allow people to watch like some other major tournaments or will it just be for the gamers alone?
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By Sly Fox
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I did some voice work for games back when I was in Austin. Not everybody is raking in the big money at these game mills. But if you have to spend all day coding, these guys seem to enjoy it.
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By El Scorcho
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Sorry, I didn't meant to imply that everyone in the industry was making bank. I was just trying to say that for those who do it well, it's proven to be very lucrative.
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By PeterParker
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Cyberfest would be held at a time that LU’s students are not on campus.

Winterfest is limited in its attendance by the lack of available hotel rooms. Potential students attending Cyberfest could stay in one of the campus’ 2,711 dorm rooms.
So, que the 'Students must remove all of their worldly possessions from their rooms over breaks so it doesn't get stolen; LU is not responsible for stolen goods' party line to be added to the way.

Interesting...but they should still leave Halo/Halo 2 in consideration...I mean, student life sponsors tournaments for those games.
Sometimes the disconnect between school officials/the official partyline at LU and the actual "ground level" operation of LU is humorous.
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By TallyW
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PeterParker wrote:
Cyberfest would be held at a time that LU’s students are not on campus.

Winterfest is limited in its attendance by the lack of available hotel rooms. Potential students attending Cyberfest could stay in one of the campus’ 2,711 dorm rooms.
So, que the 'Students must remove all of their worldly possessions from their rooms over breaks so it doesn't get stolen; LU is not responsible for stolen goods' party line to be added to the way.


This will take place in JULY.. that's a non issue
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By El Scorcho
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Yes, but why waste a chance to criticize Liberty? :roll:
By ATrain
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El Scorcho wrote:Yes, but why waste a chance to criticize Liberty? :roll:
B/c we have plenty of other things to criticize and complain about :lol:
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By PeterParker
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TallyW wrote: PeterParker wrote
Cyberfest would be held at a time that LU’s students are not on campus.

Winterfest is limited in its attendance by the lack of available hotel rooms. Potential students attending Cyberfest could stay in one of the campus’ 2,711 dorm rooms.
So, que the 'Students must remove all of their worldly possessions from their rooms over breaks so it doesn't get stolen; LU is not responsible for stolen goods' party line to be added to the way.


This will take place in JULY.. that's a non issue
El Scorcho wrote:
Yes, but why waste a chance to criticize Liberty?

For the record, I didn't oppose the idea; it's actually a decent idea and outside of the box (the kind of ideas I like.) However, remind me to recalibrate my flamefans definition of criticism for future reference. First of all, it was merely an observation not a criticism, nor a dig on the efficacy of the idea. Since it's in July, which I missed on my first read through, as Tally so DULY noted, there's no problem. No harm no foul; mine was a line in jest that fell flat due to a misreading. I can feely admit that...although some posters might need to take something (vitamin/supplement) for that grace deficiency--it's a nasty problem that can creep up on the best of 'em.

Commendable attempt to try to pigeon hole me, though, with the snappy response. So I gather now that any observation = automatic criticism? The tone of my response was meant in jest; yet the tone of the retort is quite smug. As evidenced by my posts, I largely support the university, although I do have exceptions with certain things, I make no apologies about that--I call a spade a spade when I see it, whether good or bad.


On the general Charge of Criticism of the Second Degree:

I would counter to the criticism charge that trying to stifle anyone who offers counter ideas or [gasp!] criticism is a losing proposition for an organization (unless the organization is "insecure" like a needy girlfriend in which case one would need to coddle and cajole it as not to hurt its feelings at all times.) How else will it see where it can improve if it completely shuns user feedback on the efficacy of what it is doing--good and bad (aka criticism according to my new 2007 edition Flamefan dictionary)?

I suppose that's why businesses who offer products or services don't offer customer comment/feedback cards/surveys and don't view their Consumer Reports rating as important to their long term success and don't pay attention to the court of public opinion concerning their brand and make the necessary adjustments from the feedback to offer the best product available among all of the competing products. If you only keep around the yes men (kool aid drinkers according to the Flamefan lexicon), you risk losing an objective perspective quickly. The only organizations that don't embrace feedback are ones who operate from a smug position and fail/refuse to see the benefit in listening to its consumer base & trends while continuing to operate from dated ideologies *cough* Detroit Automakers *cough*. The approach of neglecting user feedback has worked wonders for them so far.
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By El Scorcho
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Listen, I wasn't accusing you of being critical of the idea of the gaming tournament. I was talking about: "So, que the 'Students must remove all of their worldly possessions from their rooms over breaks so it doesn't get stolen; LU is not responsible for stolen goods' party line to be added to the way.". To me that read as if you were being critical of something the school hasn't even said or done, which made it seem all the more strange.

I've got no problem with people criticizing the university when they themselves are actually contributing in some way. What kills me about people around Lynchburg, and a lot of the folks here on FlameFans.* is that, for the most part, the university can't do anything right, and yet they do nothing to try to help fix what they think is wrong. (I'm not accusing you of being one of those people. I'm just saying they exist.) In spite of the fact that the school now employs several thousand people who are trying their hardest to see the university succeed, people throw out criticism like every decision, idea or direction comes directly from the mansion or the executive suite. There are a lot of hard-working people who are putting their lives into this school right now. So, when I come here and see a lot of the criticism I see, it's as if the operation of the school is being treated like a basketball game. It's backseat-driving and Monday-morning quarterbacking at it's worst.

If your response was truly just for laughs, then I apologize. However, I get tired of the snide tone on this board. I don't think it makes for productive discussion, nor do I think it does anything to truly help the school. A lot of what I read would go over a lot better if it ever amounted to anything more than drive-by bashing on the Internet. People want things at LU to change, and yet they keep the same negatively critical tone that's been around people at LU for so very long. I don't enjoy yes men, but I don't enjoy people who do nothing but tick and moan either.

Again, if I leveled any of that at the wrong person, then I apologize. I'm just growing tired of constantly defending the university to those who are completely out of touch with it.
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By PAmedic
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Ladies, please.

now back to my original succinct post : "A gaming degree is for losers and mommas' boys who don't know how to work for a living"

GET A REAL JOB!

(and I mean all that in a non-offensive way :P )
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By El Scorcho
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Medic, I know. Sorry. I think I'm going to have to learn to keep my participation on the back-side of the board.
By Ed Dantes
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Not really a terrible idea, I think.

Now, if LU hosted a campus-wide "Madden Challenge" and the winner got a scholie, I'd not only be in favor of that, I'd like to have sponsored that in college.

(Not that I'd win, or anything. There are people who dissect a game in Madden like it's an art).
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By PAmedic
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El Scorcho wrote:Medic, I know. Sorry. I think I'm going to have to learn to keep my participation on the back-side of the board.
I still love you.

now please come over and help me set up my new TV. :D
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By PeterParker
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El Scorcho wrote: Again, if I leveled any of that at the wrong person, then I apologize. I'm just growing tired of constantly defending the university to those who are completely out of touch with it.
As far as I'm concerned, we've got no beef.

If the school keeps the line of communications open and fosters user feedback (a la the Ask the AD thing, and a general idea board to submit ideas) then I'm good. It's just that the university hasn't really given people a forum or opportunity to provide constructive ideas/feedback (good & bad) outside of this board--which is not a part of the school--to date.)


Anyways, here's to hoping the new recruiting efforts are successful.
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By ishy
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I think that's a rather unique idea. I wonder how well it will work (not saying it won't-just curious). I remember when the lab was real small we used to have all night Starcraft tournaments. It was always me and like 6 guys.
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By PeterParker
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http://www.okwu.edu/Brix?pageID=14385&r ... _sakey=461

OWU auctions 1 year of tuition on eBay
Sunday January 21, 2007
Bartlesville Examiner-Enterprise
By Jessica Miller, E-E Staff Reporter
January 21, 2007

A number of “divine” items have sold on eBay, from a toasted grilled cheese sandwich bearing the image of the Virgin Mary to a pierogi with Jesus Christ’s face on it. Now, another item is joining the list of divine and never-seen-before items for sale on eBay — a full year of tuition, room and board at Oklahoma Wesleyan University.

Bidding will start at one penny on Feb. 4 and run through Feb. 10.

“We have been in touch with eBay. The people at eBay have told us that they don’t know of any college or university who has ever done this before, so we will be the first,” Executive Vice President of OWU Bob Myers said. “Since we are always looking for new and innovative things at Oklahoma Wesleyan University we decided to tackle this.

“If somebody has ever wanted to either go to college or to send a friend or relative to college but couldn’t afford it, they have an opportunity now to do that. To send somebody to college, depending on how the bid goes, it could be at a significantly reduced price.” One year at OWU, including room and board, currently costs about $23,000.

“Most options on eBay are looking to make money, we’re looking to create a buzz,” Special Assistant to the Vice President Mike Colaw said.

The auction is open to the public — current students, people who have applied to attend to the university and people who have never applied — and can be found by searching for Oklahoma Wesleyan University on eBay.com.

“I think it’s totally awesome. I’ve been thinking for a long time, if you want to reach out and really, like, get people today, you have to really give them the Internet. That’s honestly the first way I really discovered OWU was I went online,” Director of Student Ministries Mike Wilson said. Wilson will graduate from OWU in May.

There is some criteria the winner of the auction will need to meet. The person bidding on the tuition does not have to be the person who comes to the university. The winner must meet admission requirements. If the winner is not accepted to the university, their bid money will not be accepted. The option is for traditional, undergraduate students to attend the fall and spring semesters of the next academic year, not exceeding 17 credit hours per semester. The winner must apply for any financial aid they are eligible for and pay what they bid. The difference beyond financial aid and the bid will be covered by OWU.

“What we’re really looking for is to get some additional name recognition for Oklahoma Wesleyan University and we want people to realize that, as U.S. News and World Report already realizes, that we are the number 12 school in the western region of comprehensive colleges and universities. And we believe we have a wonderful, wonderful academic area, as well as, a wonderful community of which to be a part,” Myers said. “We really are a Christian university and that is what we’re all about. [However] We do not make it a requirement for any student to be a Christian.”

More information can be found at www.okwu.edu.

The university currently has an enrollment of 1,030 students. OWU has campuses throughout the state of Oklahoma and is expanding into Kansas. The school offers 39 majors and 24 minors.

Interesting outside of the box marketing idea.
By SuperJon
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There's a lake on campus at CCU. It's really nice looking.
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By PeterParker
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Sorry, dude, I accidentally deleted the post with the pic...this is what SJ was referring to. (SJ, that campus [CCU] is nice...I happened to be on the site checking out the campus for research at work.)


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By PeterParker
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For those who are interested: The eBay listing

http://cgi.ebay.com/One-year-of-college ... dZViewItem

And for those who are intrigued:
From the OWU Site: http://www.okwu.edu/Brix?pageID=14094

Mission and Cornerstones of OWU

Our Mission
As an evangelical Christian university of The Wesleyan Church, Oklahoma Wesleyan University models a way of thought, a way of life, and a way of faith. It is a place of serious study, honest questions, and critical engagement, all in the context of a liberal arts community that honors the primacy of Jesus Christ, the priority of Scripture, the pursuit of Truth, and the practice of Wisdom.

Our Cornerstones
The primacy of Jesus Christ as the incarnate Son of God, the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, who is the lens for all learning and the Lord of our daily lives.
The priority of Scripture as the inerrant and authoritative written Word of God that guides us in all matters of faith, learning, and living.
The pursuit of Truth as an objective, attainable reality grounded in the person and example of Jesus Christ and anchored in the Bible.
The practice of Wisdom as the goal for all members of the university community, who work to promote healing and wholeness in a broken culture and hurting world.
By blwall1416
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PeterParker wrote: If the school keeps the line of communications open and fosters user feedback (a la the Ask the AD thing, and a general idea board to submit ideas) then I'm good. It's just that the university hasn't really given people a forum or opportunity to provide constructive ideas/feedback (good & bad) outside of this board--which is not a part of the school--to date.)

Anyways, here's to hoping the new recruiting efforts are successful.
We are in brainstorming sessions for this now. It looks like it will take place on Friday night/all-day Saturday in July. Keep in mind this will be a LAN setup, so no consoles. It will be Bring Your Own Computer.

Games we are considering are Day of Defeat, Counter-Strike, or Team Fortress 2 (because it would be brand new). There will be individual awards as well as team awards (so we think).

Give us some feedback. Also, if any of you can think of a better name for it than CyberFest, let me know.
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