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By absturgill
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http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/Sate ... 9183&path=
As Liberty University reaches the cusp of 10,000 residential students, it readies itself for negotiations with Lynchburg City Hall on future growth plans.

School officials say that LU will have more than 10,000 students on campus by fall.

That figure is important because the school must renew its city-issued conditional use permit (CUP) once LU’s residential population tops 10,000.

City Council put that stipulation in the school’s current CUP when it was approved in 2003.

Four years ago, LU officials told City Council that the school should top 10,000 students by 2010.

But the school’s enrollment has surged due to accelerated growth that routinely brings in an additional 1,000 students each year. LU’s residential enrollment has more than doubled since 2000.

LU officials are now predicting that the school’s enrollment could top 13,000 students by the time 2010 rolls around.

“My guess is that we’ll have more than 10,400 students by next fall,” said Jerry Falwell Jr., LU’s vice chancellor.

The school’s acquisition of the former Ericsson plant has helped it keep pace with its booming growth.

“This building made the growth possible,” Falwell Jr. said.

With the addition of the new Thomas Road Baptist Church, the former Ericsson plant now houses about 1 million square feet of floor space that can be used for educational, recreational and worship purposes.

The building contains dining halls, multiple gyms, weight rooms, a NCAA-regulation swimming pool and an indoor track.

With LU’s growth comes the challenge of finding space for dormitories, classrooms, cafeterias and other facilities, said City Manager Kimball Payne.

“Imagine twice as many students and twice as many staff on that campus right now,” Payne said. “You kind of ask the obvious questions: Where are they going to go? Where are the students going to live?”

As part of the CUP-renewal process, LU officials will draw up a master plan outlining the school’s future growth.

If the university’s enrollment stays on track with estimates, the plan and the CUP could go before City Council for approval this fall.

School and city officials have begun early talks to hammer out the details of LU’s plans for growth.

“I think it’s to everybody’s advantage to start talking about this sooner,” Payne said. “I think the city and Liberty can work together in a partnership to the benefit of both.”

About 20 percent of the floor space in the former Ericsson building, now LU’s Campus North, is used for storage, maintenance, transportation and other auxiliary services.

“This is our higher rent real estate,” said Ron Godwin, LU’s executive vice president and chief operating officer. “Now, we are using a lot of the space for warehousing and transportation.”

Under a new master plan, school officials could opt to build a new 80,000-square-foot freestanding facility for those non-educational departments, thus freeing about 160,000 square feet of space in Campus North for classrooms and labs.

LU has yet to build out the third and fourth floors of the DeMoss Learning Center, which would give it an additional 240,000 square feet of classroom space.

TRBC recently announced plans for a new 44,000-square-foot addition to Liberty Christian Academy, which will provide more than two dozen classrooms for LCA and the church.

LU’s 2003 CUP would have allowed 60 dorms to be built on Campus East. Only 30 have been built or are under construction. Under the new CUP, LU will have to reapply to build more than 30 dorms.

“It’s all about assessing our rate of growth and deciding where we’re going to accommodate that growth,” Godwin said. “Every area you can think of is having pretty dramatic growth on this campus.”

Falwell Jr. said LU recently commissioned aerial photos of the campus in order to help the school plot its future growth.

“That will allow the school’s engineers and planners to go back, look at the photographs and update the master plan,” he said.

Some improvements have already been discussed with city officials. Some are just in the brainstorming stage.

Falwell plans three new tunnels leading from the campus to Wards Road, a key shopping area for students.

Two of the tunnels would be big enough to allow buses and cars to drive through. The other tunnel near the Vines Center would be for pedestrians only. The school already has an existing pedestrian tunnel underneath U.S. 460.

Wards Road itself could be part of the discussions. Currently, there are no sidewalks or crosswalks to support the pedestrian traffic the university creates.

Payne said pedestrian traffic is one of the more important issues to consider.

“We are concerned about, are there steps we can take or should take to provide for a better pedestrian environment between Liberty and Wards Road and the businesses on Wards Road,” Payne said.

School planners are working on a new 1.2-mile road, which will go around the perimeter of the campus, easing congestion on the campus’ road system and opening up parts of the campus for new buildings and parking.

“That perimeter road opens up land that is just back land right now,” Falwell Jr. said.

LU and city officials also will discuss the future of the Greater Lynchburg Transit Co.’s bus service on LU’s campus, Payne said.

GLTC and LU signed a deal last year under which LU pays $75,000 a month for six GLTC buses to run on campus. The service began running earlier this month.

Payne said GLTC service could expand to include parts of Wards Road or the Candlers Mountain Road shopping centers. Currently, LU is running its own buses to the Wards shopping centers.

The new CUP could also include plans for a new 20,000-seat convocation center, which would allow all the school’s residential students to meet three days a week.

“We’ve already outgrown the Vines Center,” Falwell Jr. said.

He said construction of a new convocation center is at least five years away.

The school also has offered to donate land and become a primary tenant if Lynchburg or Campbell County would build a publicly owned civic center near the campus.

A civic center would replace the school’s need for a new convocation center.

Last year, Falwell Jr. announced plans for a gravity park, including an artificially surfaced ski slope and tubing area, on the side of Candlers Mountain. The school has explored the idea of building an IMAX theater in an existing tower in the former Ericsson building.

Late in 2005, the school opened the LaHaye Ice Center, which is used by the school’s hockey team and is available for public skating.

“These proposed recreational facilities are key to our recruiting efforts,” Falwell Jr. said. “We’re committed to making them a reality. But core facilities like classroom, dorms, parking lots and roads will always be our priority.”
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By El Scorcho
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There's a lot to chew on in that article, but Ron Brown did a good job writing it up, as always. I'll have to let some of it sink in before I comment.
By absturgill
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you're exactly right. A lot to chew on in that piece
By ATrain
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Please...no IMAX or gravity park. There's so many other things this university and town need before that. I didn't see mention of a new bookstore being built in that article.
By A.G.
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I've always wondered. Do Jerry's lips move when Ron Brown is writing an article?
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By JDUB
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there is a new bookstore being built. i confirmed that last week
By ATrain
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yes...I've known there is one that is SUPPOSED to be built for some time, but when and where?
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By PeterParker
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A few observations:

As part of the CUP-renewal process, LU officials will draw up a master plan outlining the school’s future growth.

Falwell Jr. said LU recently commissioned aerial photos of the campus in order to help the school plot its future growth.

“That will allow the school’s engineers and planners to go back, look at the photographs and update the master plan,” he said.
This will be good, hopefully, that the school must come up with a master plan (even though I know Haize has said that there have been many previous master plans drawn up.)

Two ideas:

1. One would be for the school to put up a Design 20/20 link on the homepage to take ideas from alumni, students, parents (some parents of students are architects/engineers, etc.) in order to glean ideas on the future look of the campus. While you will invariably get hairbrained, outlandish submissions, you may come across some very good ideas and also suggestions for new building processes and materials. The school officials and hired engineering firm would have the final say on the direction they want to take the design and development, but this would open the arena of ideas. Think of it as an exercise in Crowdsourcing (See http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/co ... 002422.htm) or Web 2.0 (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2), an idea which will leave many businesses and organizations in the dust who choose to ignore its prevalence and refuse to adopt it into their business practices.

2. The other idea is the following: Once the masterplan is drawn up they need to put all of the architectural renderings online in a user-friendly aesthetically pleasing site including: existing high quality photos of the current campus, overview pictures, the order of the projects' priority, and an estimated timeline of when they would like to have each project completed.

I mentioned this elsewhere awhile ago, but I met someone from High Point University, and they are in the midst of a huge physical campus improvement & growth. The alumna I talked to told me how the President was driving the projects forward: he basically analyzed everything of the construction in terms of cost, and then he put together binders that had the items or phases and people could purchase or sponsor that item or phase for the construction. Apparently it has worked because they have raised a majority of the money they need for the capital improvements. http://flamefans.info/forums/viewtopic. ... 2d39ded900

If LU goes online with the masterplan, and analyzed the cost, it might be able to generate buzz about the grand archtierctural plans for the University. Pictures are worth a thousand words (except for the new BR Lakin improvements...that building needs to go.)
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By badger74
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I think it's a very positive sign that both sides are starting to recognize their mutual interests. A better LU and city are good for both. I also don't see how building amusements helps build a better LU. The best operators often fail with these things. The new ice arena and student rec center were needed--IMAX and gravity park--not so much. How about a larger better library than could be open to the public too for a small fee?
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By TallyW
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Isn't the Library already open to anyone from the community? I believe it only costs like $10 for a card.

The IMAX makes much more sense to me than the gravity park. I can't see it being popular enough to justify the costs. The IMAX however could play many first run movies and be a great addition.
By belcherboy
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badger74 wrote: How about a larger better library than could be open to the public too for a small fee?
Are the days of libraries starting to end? The law school library is beautiful, but how much does the average student need a library these days? I graduated in 2000 and did 90% of my research on the internet. I mostly used the library as either a hang out/homework with the ladies place, internet access in between classes, or when a professor would force us to use a resource from the library.

I wasn't the greatest of students, but would building a nice library be worth the cost it would require?
By SuperJon
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No.

I have never stepped foot inside our library.
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By JDUB
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me either. you can use some of the resources online without going inside, which i have done, but i haven't actually been inside our library
By LUconn
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I used to go there to read the newspaper on the big wooden stick. And they have a lot of good magazines too.
By ATrain
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I use the library to get to either the C-Lab or subconnection if its more convenient than the other ways available to get there. Thats about all I use it for.
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By badger74
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Hmmm, guess you don't read books anymore. Reading long articles on a computer stinks. Give me a book any day.
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By Sly Fox
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I tend to agree with you, badger. I'm reading "Running with the Big Dogs" (a book Hburg would absolutely love if he hasn't read it already) and there is just something relaxing about kicking back with the binder in your hands as opposed to looking at a screen for hours ad nauseum. But then again, I'm a self-described Old Hag.
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By PAmedic
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http://www.liberty.edu/academics/commun ... 09&CAID=31
In regard to whether the university would continue its current rate of growth, Falwell Jr. said, “It is hard to say whether the physical changes on campus will be as dramatic over the next 10 years as they have been over the last five years, but the changes will be significant.”

Director of Field Operations J.O. Renalds said that they are currently most concerned with dealing with traffic and parking issues.
Interesting points:

1. New road to be built between Worthington Stadium "the Pit" with the Reber-Thomas parking lot. Will continue through the ravine below the Vines Center to the Dorm Circle

2. a new road to link the road in front of Campus East (Liberty Mountain Drive) to U.S. Hwy. 29 close to Lynchburg Regional Airport

3. two new tunnels to Wards Road- one for cars, one for pedestrians.

4. Possibly building two high rise buildings to replace Droms 1, 14, 15 and 16. :shock:

5. Construction on the third and fourth floors of DeMoss Hall should be finished within the next five years 8)

basically, I'm gonna need a new map everytime I visit
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By JDUB
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interesting... i'll believe it when i see it
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By PAmedic
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yup

not to be a pessamist.
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By El Scorcho
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To counter the pessimism with my own eternal optimism, I'm just which of those five things sounds that unbelievable? None of them are terribly large projects or anything we haven't already done before.
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By PAmedic
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#s 4 and 5

First: last I heard- the permitting on high rise structures was an issue. I'm thinking mid-rises (6-10 stories) would probably be a better /easier option.
they start talking TRUE high-rise, there better be plans for a GREATLY enhanced Emergency Services on campus- incl a Fire Dept or at least Fire Brigade, as well as a transport-capable Paramedic unit. Vertical occupancies are just as tough, if not TOUGHER to deal with than horizontal ones, in many cases. Ask the FDNY.

Second: you know how DeMoss goes. As the money goes. And as the need goes.
right now Campus North is just dandy. I'm betting they do more on Stadiums before those 2 floors are occupies. Then again, what do I know? hoping I'm wrong. Be great to see that building fully utilized.
By Libertine
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I'm with Scorchy and not b/c of his eternal optimism. There is absolutely nothing on that list that is really that big of a deal. It's not like there's anything like renovating nearly a million square feet of industrial space on there or anything.
Think about it.
  • The Campus East / 29 connector and the Wards Road tunnels could happen very easily and practically overnight.
  • The high rise dorms will have to happen at some point. I doubt we'll see anything in terms of a 'true' high-rise but to replace the dorms listed you only need 4 floors.
  • DeMoss will be finished off when there's something to put there. Obviously, it wouldn't make any sense to do that before.
As I see it, the most consuming thing on that list logistically-speaking is the cross-campus road mainly b/c you would have to divert a ton of traffic while construction was under way.
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By PAmedic
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may well be some confusion in the language then-

a true "high-rise" is over 10 stories. Building ONE would be a challenge, let alone several. That's a major undertaking.

you're right though- if they're talking MID-RISES- not as big of a deal(s).

don't quite get the new road to 29, but then again- I can't picture how/where it would go. Kinda thought there WAS one of them already :dontgetit
By Libertine
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PAmedic wrote:
don't quite get the new road to 29, but then again- I can't picture how/where it would go. Kinda thought there WAS one of them already :dontgetit
The Campus East road is basically the old fire road that ran back there on that side of 460 and it just dead ends. If it were to continue it would run into 29 roughly across the street from the airport.
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