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By Whatisthetruth
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The third installment of the Gangster Capitalism podcast will address this. If the board will not do the right thing many former female students will.


flameshaw wrote: May 25th, 2021, 4:09 pm Couple of things:
1. Did anyone sign the letter above?
2. If rumors are correct,expecting the Bored to look into sexual problems on campus, might be too incriminating. Not saying any one current bored member is guilty of such, but some are surely aware of others who have and helped cover it up. I am not one who believes every sin needs to be publicly shared in detail. However a general recognition of a past problem and assurance that there will be zero tolerance in the future, would be a step forward. We need to have new leadership in place yesterday. JP, is far from the answer.
By LUconn
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I'm halfway through ep 2. As overt as the Falwell's apparently were even in front of strangers, anyone with a semi close relationship with them is implicated. Watch for the board to pretend they were always at a distance from them. They all have to go. Is there a mechanism for that to happen?
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By Dustin Wahl
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LUconn wrote: May 26th, 2021, 9:20 am I'm halfway through ep 2. As overt as the Falwell's apparently were even in front of strangers, anyone with a semi close relationship with them is implicated. Watch for the board to pretend they were always at a distance from them. They all have to go. Is there a mechanism for that to happen?
The first episode of the Gangster Capitalism podcast begins with the previously unreported story of the Falwells' drunken escapades last summer in Memphis, told by Corilynn, a source who was there. Both Jerry and Becki made passes at much younger people, in full view of the rest of the group. What the podcast did not mention was that a board member, Steven Snyder, was with them and witnessed all of it. He was at the table with the Falwells just like Coriylnn was, but he just looked the other way.

Snyder is an extreme example, but he's not the only member of LU's board of trustees to ignore the Falwells' reckless hypocrisy. For the past several years, I have been trying to point out ways in which Falwell is unfit to lead a Christian school. I knew about rumors of his personal life, but I didn't want to focus on those things. There were plenty of reasons that Falwell should be forced to resign, reasons that were in full view of the public. Falwell was bearing bad fruit and dragging Liberty's reputation down with him.

But the board did not care to notice what Falwell did to hurt himself or hurt the school. They did not care to try to stop him, which would have been gracious to him and to Liberty. And they have still not addressed the grotesque hypocrisy that the world is now very familiar with.

There is not a mechanism for the full board to be replaced, other than if TRBC's board did it, which is unlikely. That's why last August, Save71 proposed a list of current and former university officials whom the board could appoint to a search committee for a new president. You can find the list on our website: https://save71.org/ . I tried to make the list a good cross section of some of Liberty's most capable and earnest leaders, who know the school and its history far better than I do. (No, it doesn't consist of "woke liberals.") Of course our list was ignored, as we knew it would be. But the point we wanted to make is that if the board consisted of humble, Christlike leaders, they would realize that they were unfit to lead and appoint others to serve in their stead. It's far-fetched, and it won't happen. But it should happen.

As Wade Mullen says, “This is really what it comes down to when abuse is exposed, when darkness is brought to light: Who will do whatever it takes to overcome a scandal, and who will do all they must to pursue what is right?” Liberty's leaders have done all they can to keep their heads down, avoid conflict, change the subject, and focus exclusively on things that make Liberty look good. But what would Christlike leaders do in this situation? I think they would do all they must to pursue what is right.

Just imagine how spiritually healthy that would be for Liberty. Earnest apologies . . . resignations . . . a full and thorough investigation. . . forgiveness.
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By thepostman
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Also, most people within the LU community are going to buy into what JP is laying down. They will view this podcast as a left wing hit piece and nothing more than that. Because of that they will choose not to take any of the stories seriously. The leadership is just non-existent from the President's office on down.

LU has some great people on campus right now, it is a shame all of that talent is being wasted because a bunch of retired guys want to live the good life as long as they can.
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By Purple Haize
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Jonathan Carone wrote: May 26th, 2021, 3:37 pm My goodness that Memphis story on Gangster Capitalism is terrible. That should embarrass and infuriate anyone connected to the school.
It should but I’m taking it with a grain of salt. Her story had some holes in it.
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By flameshaw
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Purple Haize wrote: May 26th, 2021, 5:06 pm
Jonathan Carone wrote: May 26th, 2021, 3:37 pm My goodness that Memphis story on Gangster Capitalism is terrible. That should embarrass and infuriate anyone connected to the school.

It should but I’m taking it with a grain of salt. Her story had some holes in it.
I am happy that the Jr. reign is over and some things are being addressed (way too slowly). However, everything that I have read/communicated with about Save 71 and associated groups have holes in the stories.
I honestly believe that they are taking a crisis and using it for some kind of attention. They are not concerned about LU, as much as they are about promoting themselves/agendas. Both extremes, (BOD and Save 71 et al) are not good for the well-being of the university.
There is more behind the curtain.
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By thepostman
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The whole reason the board ignored the Jerry stories floating around was because they were sold that same line. That these people all had an agenda. They bought it and things got worse wirh Jerry, not better.

If these stories turn out to be false then great but there should be no stone unturned. This won't happen because the more stones that get unturned, the worse it makes them look.

This is how toxic environments stay in place.
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By Purple Haize
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thepostman wrote: May 26th, 2021, 5:22 pm But that story, and other stories like it floating around campus, is why the investigation needs to be all encompassing. But it isn't. Which is a shame.
You’re not wrong. There’s a lot of smoke there. It’s patently obvious there were issues with them individually and in their marriage. Let alone professionally.
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By thepostman
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Yeah and don't get me wrong, some people clearly have an agenda. That alone, isn't reason to not at least look into all these stories. There are tons more that will be coming out I guess. The board had a year to get ahead of this thing but instead they've been even more tight lipped.
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By Purple Haize
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thepostman wrote: May 26th, 2021, 7:51 pm Yeah and don't get me wrong, some people clearly have an agenda. That alone, isn't reason to not at least look into all these stories. There are tons more that will be coming out I guess. The board had a year to get ahead of this thing but instead they've been even more tight lipped.
Do I need to repeat my mantra from Day 1 since this thing broke? :D
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By flameshaw
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thepostman wrote: May 26th, 2021, 7:43 pm The whole reason the board ignored the Jerry stories floating around was because they were sold that same line. That these people all had an agenda. They bought it and things got worse wirh Jerry, not better.

If these stories turn out to be false then great but there should be no stone unturned. This won't happen because the more stones that get unturned, the worse it makes them look.

This is how toxic environments stay in place.
IMHO, Many things were not addressed was because the bored was afraid of Jr. Several of the Bored members knew for certain what was going on and did nothing. One of the things that enabled them to look the other way, was people, groups, who gave them cover by making allegations with holes big enough a blind person could find them.
A lot of this was also carry over from all the people/groups who went after Sr. with personal/false agendas. There were so many untrue things put out about Sr. that it became easy to believe that Jr. was being attacked the same way.
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By LUconn
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Tinsley said he had arrested the men on campus for being drunk in public, and soon afterwards, Wallace called, telling him to drop the charges. (Tinsley added that Police Chief Randy Smith told him that the men who were arrested attended the church of an influential pastor, who was a trustee at Liberty.)
Just 1 more nugget showing the whole thing is rotten
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By LUOrange
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There's a lot of holes in that girl's story. I know many of the folks named in Roys' narrative. Some I know better than others.
Some I respect, some not so much- including some that I wouldn't have anything to do with again. But objectively, there's a lot of holes in her story and you can see them in that narrative.
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The best quote by far was from Jr that his title was ceremonial and he had no influence on campus infrastructure. He was able to take ministry property and sell it to himself then flip it for millions but somehow was not in a position to listen to this student or do anything about the situation.

He was also able to see a monogram in Utah while skiing and get one built on the mountain but his role was ceremonial.
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LUOrange wrote: June 1st, 2021, 2:28 pm There's a lot of holes in that girl's story. I know many of the folks named in Roys' narrative. Some I know better than others.
Some I respect, some not so much- including some that I wouldn't have anything to do with again. But objectively, there's a lot of holes in her story and you can see them in that narrative.
First off - the numbers prove out most women don’t lie about sexual assault.

Second - if someone is still publicly claiming they were raped 16 years after the fact, I’m inclined to believe them even more than I would’ve right after the incident.
By ALUmnus
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Oh, the things that Randy Smith must know...

Laura Wallace, man, she's still covering for Jr and some of the hirelings he has around the school. She's got to be one of the most strategic hires the Falwells ever made.
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