A Sea Of Red

There are pros and cons to everything. Jonathon would be advantageous in that he's articulate, balanced, and measured. This has been a lifetime journey and commitment for him. The downside would be the perception of the never-ending family successor. If he eventually rises to the highest level, it would be favorable for him to build a committed team of leaders as well as a succession plan that moves on from the bloodline model.

I often wonder about who will be Pastor at TRBC after Jonathan ? I know of no one in the pipeline.

The pipeline should not be limited to current TRBC staffers. I haven't heard him speak in over 30 years, but does Matt Wilmington not have the chops?

All I will say is, I know of church members who skip church whenever MW is scheduled to "preach". He doesn't have a good delivery.

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑April 12th, 2021, 3:29 pm All I will say is, I know of church members who skip church whenever MW is scheduled to "preach". He doesn't have a good delivery.

I listen to him on Hope Now recently, I like him. But then I like low key sermons.

If Ballcoach doesn’t see a pastor screaming, hopping up and down, and whacking people in the head with the Bible, that ain’t preaching.

Well Jonathan isn't that guy or preacher so he must be going to the wrong church....

Too many sermons these days border on more of a Sunday School lesson, than a sermon.
I like it "when toes get stepped on".

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑April 12th, 2021, 7:38 pm Too many sermons these days border on more of a Sunday School lesson, than a sermon.
I like it "when toes get stepped on".

Yours or someone else's?

flamehunter wrote: ↑April 12th, 2021, 8:16 pm

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑April 12th, 2021, 7:38 pm Too many sermons these days border on more of a Sunday School lesson, than a sermon.
I like it "when toes get stepped on".

Yours or someone else's?

Both

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑April 12th, 2021, 7:38 pm Too many sermons these days border on more of a Sunday School lesson, than a sermon.
I like it "when toes get stepped on".

That's the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist guilt mindset.

“That's the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist guilt mindset.”

Grew up in that legalistic culture...so much emphasis on “looking, dressing, and acting” like a Christian, which bred a generation of self-righteous “church goers” akin to the Pharisees. Instead of hmm...here’s a noble idea, exposit the Word, teaching faithfully week after week, and let the Spirit do what the Spirit does, draw sinners to Christ through grace/faith. “Toes getting stepped on...ridiculous. I’ll take grace and cling to Christ.

Tactfully need both.

Acting, yes. Looking, dressing, no. The only thing I can tell that would be dressing “christ-like” would be wearing a long white robe with a blue sash like in all the pictures

But you should have an ethic of Christian living and you should hold your brothers and sisters accountable to that in a grace-filled, Christ-like way.

TH Spangler wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 9:54 am Tactfully need both.

What I saw growing up at TRBC wasn't "tactful." I don't even think it is used appropriately here. Image was often right up there with one's faith.

For PM clarification, and for those who may have even wondered...I am far from being cynical or jaded at the Church; one of the greatest tangible blessings that I get to be a part of is this: experiencing genuine fellowship with other believers who “don’t have it all together,” aren’t concerned about their “image or standing” in the community or the local church, value deeply the grace that has been given to them, still fight and mourn over their sin, and realize that anything that is good about them is b/c of Christ.

There is a freedom in transparency and genuine humility that is priceless...that will preach (in some places).

Jonathon told the church staff he isn't going anywhere.

stokesjokes wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 10:05 am Acting, yes. Looking, dressing, no. The only thing I can tell that would be dressing “christ-like” would be wearing a long white robe with a blue sash like in all the pictures

But you should have an ethic of Christian living and you should hold your brothers and sisters accountable to that in a grace-filled, Christ-like way.

Ladies shouldn't hem their robes 16 inches above the knee

16 inches?? She better be tall

J-o-n-a-t-h-a-n

That is how you spell his name.

I’ve been biting my tongue. I just imagine a race with a bunch of Jons. A Jon-athon.

My sister misspelled my nephew's name on birth certificate as Jonathon. Poor kid has been stuck with it for life.

Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑April 14th, 2021, 10:48 am J-o-n-a-t-h-a-n

That is how you spell his name.

Thank you!

Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑April 14th, 2021, 10:48 am J-o-n-a-t-h-a-n

That is how you spell his name.

But auto-correct didn't correct me!

Apologies for the offense. I will try to do better.

It’s not just you by any means! I’m amazed at the ways I’ve seen it spelled on here the past couple weeks.